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« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2005, 03:22:00 PM »
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On 2005-10-06 09:29:00, Desparate Dad wrote:

"I have read through a number of posts on this forum and heard allegations, but nothing from a parent of, or former student of, Anchor Academy.  I support strict adherence to rules and advocate corporal discipline, but dehumanizing is not what I believe in....Telling people they are worthles, trash, and no good doesn't help people.  My son needs structure and self-esteem as well as help with his issues with authority..."


Dad, you sound like a good guy ... just trust us when we tell us there is a fine line between corporal discipline and corporal PUNISHMENT.

Please, before you send your son away, make sure the program does not condone crossing the line as a means to make your son right with God.

Thanks and good luck.  Remember, kids do learn from their mistakes when allowed to make them.

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« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2005, 04:50:00 PM »
Talk to the referral parent's kid - you will get the insider's view.  If he left prior to completion, I wouldn't put any credibility into it.  If he completed, and is sincere about how it helped, that's a good start.
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« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2005, 05:04:00 PM »
Desperate Dad: read on the topic "Anchor Academy" 9-30-05 and there is a posting for the web site to this school.

You also need to "google" the name of the owners and the school name and read the newspaper articles for yourself, too.
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« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2005, 05:46:00 PM »
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On 2005-10-06 12:04:00, Desparate Dad wrote:

"Thank you for your reply. I wonder if you can tell me which web page you read their philosophy.  I am not aware that the school even has a web page.....And as far as the referral parent goes, their son left the school the week after we spoke, so no tuition credit was given...I was amazed at the tuition of this school....and the availability of scholarships for those that can't afford it.  This school is not in it for the money, I can assure you.....The price is equivalent to most local non-resident private schools and far less than some.  I spoke with the local newspaper and there was nothing negative that they had to say with the exception of one charge of a staff member, immediately fired, innappropriately touching a student..."
You're right, DD, they're not in it for the money.  Their tuition is only about 20% of what the usual scam artists charge.  That's a good sign.

Why did the referrer's boy leave?
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« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2005, 07:54:00 PM »
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On 2005-10-06 12:04:00, Desparate Dad wrote:

"Thank you for your reply. I wonder if you can tell me which web page you read their philosophy.  I am not aware that the school even has a web page.....And as far as the referral parent goes, their son left the school the week after we spoke, so no tuition credit was given...I was amazed at the tuition of this school....and the availability of scholarships for those that can't afford it.  This school is not in it for the money, I can assure you.....The price is equivalent to most local non-resident private schools and far less than some.  I spoke with the local newspaper and there was nothing negative that they had to say with the exception of one charge of a staff member, immediately fired, innappropriately touching a student..."


One reason they charge less is that they're part of a church ministry (Baptist, I believe).
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« Reply #20 on: October 06, 2005, 08:36:00 PM »
One employee "touched a boy inappropriately...but was fired.."
Desperate Dad: do you want to take the chance that THIS type thing could happen to YOUR SON? Hardly matters if the child predator is "fired immediately or not," after your son has been sexually abused now does it?
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« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2005, 08:37:00 PM »
Well- I guess nobody better go to a Catholic church!
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« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2005, 08:45:00 PM »
You can go to the Catholic Church, just don't leave your kids unattended!
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« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2005, 10:27:00 PM »
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On 2005-10-06 08:47:00, Desparate Dad wrote:

"I currently have a date to bring my son to Anchor in Mid October, having been referred by another boy's parents. After reading this forum today, I am having misgivings...I would like to hear some definite examples of good and bad from parents of students....anyone out there?"


I would encourage you to go to Havre Mt.and visit with the staff and see what is happening there.  There is a negative stance being taken by  this forum against Anchor and I have been trying to change that.  I have met about 40 of the boys from Anchor and was impressed with them.  I am scheduled to go and see the facility and take to the boys who are there and "not investigate, but observe firsthand."  The alternative for some of these boys is to go to a state reform school or even the penitenary (They will end up there, at the rate some of them are going).  That is not a solution.  So, Anchor Academy is trying to help.  Regarding the accusation that they force you to get "saved."  That is not even worth responding to.  You don't force "salvation" on anyone.  That has to come from the Lord.  Again, Anchor dismissed the person who was inapporpriate.  What are you going to do...people are that way.  We have that happen in other organizations and do what is right and go on.  They are not perfect but no one is when dealing with people.  If they tolerated it and shoved it under the rug, then that would be a different thing.
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« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2005, 10:35:00 PM »
Pastor, why would you be trying to change "a negative stance" if you do not really know what is going on at Anchor Academy? Being connected to Roloff Ministries IS NEGATIVE. Having a boy inappropriately "touched" by an employee IS NEGATIVE.
No one here on this formum created that negativity.
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« Reply #25 on: October 09, 2005, 02:11:00 AM »
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Regarding the accusation that they force you to get "saved." That is not even worth responding to. You don't force "salvation" on anyone. That has to come from the Lord.


Umm... pastor... ::waves his hand in the air wanting to be called on like in sunday school:: what about the Inquistion? What about spain? What about the English church? What about christian-like cults? what about parents putting pressure on their kids? What about being yelled at about how your a sinner by some man that is keeping you in the middle of no where agianst your will. And that you will go to hell if you dont do exactly what he says?
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« Reply #26 on: October 11, 2005, 09:54:00 AM »
Desparate Dad is posting over at Struggling Teens asking about Anchor Academy. Those fine parents should be able to help: first a nice Wilderness program, then a long-term RTC. There you go Dad. That should help the boy!
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« Reply #27 on: October 15, 2005, 04:12:00 PM »
Desperate Dad,
Be aware that all you'll find here is biased posters. Everyone here is against any type of program regardless of how helpful it is to the child. The disagree with punishment for one's actions and believe that no child should ever have to face consequences for his/her's actions. I tend to disagree with this as in the real world-we are punished for our actions. So I think you either fix the problem with a therapy/counselors, etc as you have or a program if you don't want your son to spend the rest of his life in and out of prison. Best of luck to you and your son. I personally know nothing about this particular program so I can be of little help in that aspect. But I just want to warn you of who you're asking for help here. I belive that your son can change his life around as long as he goes in there with an open mind and is co-operative. I also am a fellow Christian and believe a Christian atmosphere can be very beneficial to him. Best of luck. Just ignore all the blinded, mis-informed, and bias posters here--they have no idea what they are talking about, most have never even attended a program. I lived at a program (my father worked there) and ignorant people such as these have successfully managed to shut it down. I think it was a wonderful program which also provided their teens with a potential future through acedemics and sports. So beware of haters.
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« Reply #28 on: October 15, 2005, 04:56:00 PM »
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... 160#141046

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... tart=30&32

Look at the bias for yourselves  :roll:

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« Reply #29 on: November 17, 2005, 01:23:00 AM »
Sounds like you are in the same position we are in with our 13 yr old son, here in Georgia.  What to do?  Deciding on an alternative place to live outside the family home is difficult.  I know what you are going through, you/we have to explore and investigate where we send our child 'to live' - it's not like buying a house where we shop around diligently to find our perfect house, it requires much more from us.  
     I'm not too sure about some of these posters on this list.  Appears there are a great many kids on this board, and from the fowl language I have read, I wonder who they kiss with their filthy mouth?  
     May I suggest you go to google and enter in quotes "Anchor Academy" and behind it enter cue search words.  

God Bless,
Jody
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