STUDENTS/STAFF from Hidden Lake Fucked up school

[SHH Anon Classics]

1) I remembered a kid named Devon. whether or not he remembered me is besides the point.

2) Dysfunction is not telling the truth about what I look like, and about other things, therefore, he is full of shit, therefore I cannot be a bullfrog.

3) It is not illegal to post a first name of someone i rememberd at the school I have talked to an attorney you dipshit

4) What makes you think Bill divorced me? It might have been the other way around. Again, a goofy ass assumption.

5) I never gained "confidential" information from anybody anywhere. Everything I have posted is things I remembered from when I was there. Nor did I have access to students files even when I was an employee. So, again, assumptions. You know what assumptions do dont you?

6) Since I havent been living in Georgia in several years, and since I am no longer A. married to Bill and B. not an employee of the school and C. Havent spoken to Marty or Dr. B since December of 2000, why the heck do you think I would attend anything that has to do with  the school now? LMAO

So.....tell me this boys, who is full of shit now? Damn how you do go on and on and on and on.

[Anonymous]

it is legal to post the first name of a student that was recalled from memory

[Anonymous]

***Since I havent been living in Georgia in several years, and since I am no longer A. married to Bill and B. not an employee of the school and C. Havent spoken to Marty or Dr. B since December of 2000, why the heck do you think I would attend anything that has to do with the school now?

Now here's the real question... if all that is true, then why do spend time here arguing with ex-students and staff who obviously have more accurate information than you do? What inspires you to spend your time that way if you have no vested interest?

[SHH Anon Classics]

My interest has to do with the fact that when I came across this board back in the spring, I found quite a few incorrect, misleading things being posted about a facility that I was associated with from its founding until February of 2001, and it was my home as well for 4 years, AND, the slanderous, hateful, UNTRUE things being said about my son's father. That is where my interest in this board comes from. My son's father, even though we have our differences and got divorced, is a very well respected person in his community. He loves his children dearly and is very close to his family. He takes his job very seriously and spends probably 10-14 hrs a day in his office or on campus, other than at his personal home. He works like a dog and so did his mother and father when they worked on campus for the 6 years they were there. I had alot of friends who worked there who were very decent, moral people, and I respect Dr. Buccellato for his expertise and interest in children and their educational and emotional upbringing. Dr. B has operated a traditional private day school for years in Atlanta, owns both HLA and Ridge Creek in addition to the new facility they have planned, and has had a successful private practice in Atlanta for over 20 yrs, and has worked with numerous public school systems in development of programs over the years. He knows good and well how to operate a school legally.  He is a PHD and knows his "shit" so to speak. So, knowing what I know about the owner of this school and about some of its current and former employees, I find it offensive that some of you come on here pretending to "know it all" and because you dealt with some employees who didnt behave the way they should have or with experiences you yourself had, in the few months or year you were there, it means that every person is evil that was ever associated with the school and it needs to be shut down. You know my catholic high school that I went to sucked in some ways too and had its few employees that werent good but it is a wonderful school with wonderful people, great students, and great educational opportunities. You have to look at the whole picture. That is my interest in this board. You asked, I answered.

[Troll Control]

****He knows good and well how to operate a school legally.

If this is true, why doesn't he run his business (it's NOT a school) legally?

Why has he ducked licensure for years?  Why did he knowingly run an unaccredited "school" for nearly a decade?  Why did he knowingly hire "clinicians" who had phony credentials?  Why did he rehire and promote a scumbag who was banging patients?  I could go on and on with the questions, but I'll wait until you answer these ones first.

WHY?

[SHH Anon Classics]

You should be asking him all those questions but I will answer the ones I know the answer to:

The school is operating legally.

The school is and has been accredited academically for years.

As far as credentials maybe he was just as fooled by their credentials as everybody else. As you will notice, everybody there now has proper diplomas, etc.

And as far as Danny Pervel, maybe he wasnt guilty of the "banging", maybe it was rumor and maybe it was kids making it all up, but I woudlnt know I dont know the guy.

Got any more?

[Anonymous]

***The school is operating legally.

What 'qualified' them for exemption from licensure? They certainly meet the definition of an RCF.

***The school is and has been accredited academically for years.

How many years, and by who?

***As far as credentials maybe he was just as fooled by their credentials as everybody else. As you will notice, everybody there now has proper diplomas, etc.

Well, we'd certainly have to take your word for that, whoever you are? And assume that you actually know.

***And as far as Danny Pervel, maybe he wasnt guilty of the "banging", maybe it was rumor and maybe it was kids making it all up, but I woudlnt know I dont know the guy.

And my goodness, maybe it wasn't rumor. How would that be determined?

[SHH Anon Classics]

According to this website Georgia has no regulations requiring private schools to be licensed or accredited. According to the Dept of Education for Georgia website they do require schools to provide a basic education in all main subjects and have students attend at least 180 days a year.

http://www.ed.gov/pubs/RegPrivSchl/chart.html

[SHH Anon Classics]

I just read an article done by law students at Brigham Young University discussing state regulation of private schools. In the article, they mention that only 26 states out of 50 require some sort of licensing or accredition as mandatory for a private school to operate. Of the others, Georgia is mentioned as only requiring the school to obtain a business license, which, Hidden Lake Academy has. I checked the Georgia Secretary of State website to verify that. Other than that, every other website on the topic I found seems to lead one to believe that accredition and licensing of private schools in the state of Georgia is voluntary and other than basic education requirements needing to be met by the school, everything else is up to the accrediting organization or the health dept to monitor.

[RobertBruce]

On 2005-11-16 09:54:00, Anonymous wrote:

"1) I remembered a kid named Devon. whether or not he remembered me is besides the point.



2) Dysfunction is not telling the truth about what I look like, and about other things, therefore, he is full of shit, therefore I cannot be a bullfrog.



3) It is not illegal to post a first name of someone i rememberd at the school I have talked to an attorney you dipshit



4) What makes you think Bill divorced me? It might have been the other way around. Again, a goofy ass assumption.



5) I never gained "confidential" information from anybody anywhere. Everything I have posted is things I remembered from when I was there. Nor did I have access to students files even when I was an employee. So, again, assumptions. You know what assumptions do dont you?



6) Since I havent been living in Georgia in several years, and since I am no longer A. married to Bill and B. not an employee of the school and C. Havent spoken to Marty or Dr. B since December of 2000, why the heck do you think I would attend anything that has to do with  the school now? LMAO



So.....tell me this boys, who is full of shit now? Damn how you do go on and on and on and on."

"1) I remembered a kid named Devon. whether or not he remembered me is besides the point."

Is it now? I guess you havent really thought this through. The guy claims hes never met nor heard of you. You claim it doesnt matter and that you did in fact meet him.

Can you prove it?

In a court of law you would have to be able to prove that you remembered the kid from having met him at HLA. If he claims he didnt then youve got to provide an alternative source of information. How many other ways were there Mrs. Gray? Again face facts youre busted.

"2) Dysfunction is not telling the truth about what I look like, and about other things, therefore, he is full of shit, therefore I cannot be a bullfrog."

What other things? Specifically? You keep forgetting Mrs. Gray, Dysfuction has shown himself to not only be a great deal more honest than you, but able to back up his claims (something youve never done) and hes shown himself to be smarter than you.

"3) It is not illegal to post a first name of someone i rememberd at the school I have talked to an attorney you dipshit"

Dipshit? Mrs. Gray you sly little bullfrog it sounds as if youre getting flustered. Do you need a zap to think about it? Perhaps while doing so you can talk again to that attorney friend of yours (Marty). Only this time tell him the real story of how you got the information. Then we'll see his response.

"4) What makes you think Bill divorced me? It might have been the other way around. Again, a goofy ass assumption."

Are you directing this towards someone else? Considering I never mentioned your divorce from Fatass I dont know why else you would mention it. I could care less about your maritial problems. If I had to guess though I would say you slept around with a vagrant causing him to divorce you.

"5) I never gained "confidential" information from anybody anywhere. Everything I have posted is things I remembered from when I was there. Nor did I have access to students files even when I was an employee. So, again, assumptions. You know what assumptions do dont you? "

You didnt? Stupid sloppy bullfrog, what do you think it was your were doing there? You have ranted on and on about how you sent out our progress reports. This would be considered a student file would it not you ignorant toad? Hence you releasing information gained from those files would in fact be illegal.

"6) Since I havent been living in Georgia in several years, and since I am no longer A. married to Bill and B. not an employee of the school and C. Havent spoken to Marty or Dr. B since December of 2000, why the heck do you think I would attend anything that has to do with  the school now? LMAO"

Because as was stated earlier, you arent smart enough to come up with this information on your own.

You know what I like best about your rant Susie. You completly evade discussing why out of all the random students you supposedly remember at HLA you would have just thrown Devin's name out there. Again claiming you had no real basis for this thought?

Keep trying Mrs. Gray.

[RobertBruce]

On 2005-11-16 11:01:00, Anonymous wrote:

"it is legal to post the first name of a student that was recalled from memory"

Maybe it is, but not if the original memory is from a student record and not the student himself.

[Anonymous]

Well that should make the discerning parent feel all warm and fuzzy about their child's well-being.

Is HLAs tuition still being paid by insurance companies?
Are parents still taking tax write-offs for visits to see their 'disabled' child?

Might insurance companies feel a bit ripped off if they knew they were paying for tuition to a private boarding school? How would the IRS feel about parents writing off expenses related to visits to their kid's private boarding school?

Twist, turn, manipulate. HLA is not a traditional boarding school and ever person in this discussion knows that. Just the latest version of fraud being perpetrated, apparently industry wide.

Can we credit the NATSAP think tank for this clever new direction? Who IS the mastermind behind this brilliant illusion?

[RobertBruce]

On 2005-11-16 14:24:00, Anonymous wrote:

"My interest has to do with the fact that when I came across this board back in the spring, I found quite a few incorrect, misleading things being posted about a facility that I was associated with from its founding until February of 2001, and it was my home as well for 4 years, AND, the slanderous, hateful, UNTRUE things being said about my son's father. That is where my interest in this board comes from. My son's father, even though we have our differences and got divorced, is a very well respected person in his community. He loves his children dearly and is very close to his family. He takes his job very seriously and spends probably 10-14 hrs a day in his office or on campus, other than at his personal home. He works like a dog and so did his mother and father when they worked on campus for the 6 years they were there. I had alot of friends who worked there who were very decent, moral people, and I respect Dr. Buccellato for his expertise and interest in children and their educational and emotional upbringing. Dr. B has operated a traditional private day school for years in Atlanta, owns both HLA and Ridge Creek in addition to the new facility they have planned, and has had a successful private practice in Atlanta for over 20 yrs, and has worked with numerous public school systems in development of programs over the years. He knows good and well how to operate a school legally.  He is a PHD and knows his "shit" so to speak. So, knowing what I know about the owner of this school and about some of its current and former employees, I find it offensive that some of you come on here pretending to "know it all" and because you dealt with some employees who didnt behave the way they should have or with experiences you yourself had, in the few months or year you were there, it means that every person is evil that was ever associated with the school and it needs to be shut down. You know my catholic high school that I went to sucked in some ways too and had its few employees that werent good but it is a wonderful school with wonderful people, great students, and great educational opportunities. You have to look at the whole picture. That is my interest in this board. You asked, I answered."

Specifically Mrs. Gray what "incorrect misleading statements" did we make?

Please list them off and state the reality of the situation.

Also can you discuss what changes needed to be made at HLA versus which ones were and why? Followed by telling us students who did have to deal with perhaps poor practices or

"dealt with some employees who didnt behave the way they should have or with experiences you yourself had"

do we now have a legitimate claim against the school?

Also can you go into why if everything is on the level there Buchi would need to operate illegally or even under a loop hole? Why not simply register with the state as a Theraputic Boarding School and deal with those regulations?

Get back to me on those Susie.

[Anonymous]

****According to this website Georgia has no regulations requiring private schools to be licensed or accredited.

Is that surprising.... afterall, it is Ga.

****According to the Dept of Education for Georgia website they do require schools to provide a basic education in all main subjects and have students attend at least 180 days a year.

Given the intelligence level of the parents HLA deals with... it will probably never cross their minds to ask who monitors the therapeutic aspect of the program. Kudos. You guys are really just brilliant!! You did really good for yourselves. So much for the kids.

[RobertBruce]

On 2005-11-16 16:24:00, Anonymous wrote:

"You should be asking him all those questions but I will answer the ones I know the answer to:



The school is operating legally.



The school is and has been accredited academically for years.



And as far as Danny Pervel, maybe he wasnt guilty of the "banging", maybe it was rumor and maybe it was kids making it all up, but I woudlnt know I dont know the guy.



As far as credentials maybe he was just as fooled by their credentials as everybody else. As you will notice, everybody there now has proper diplomas, etc.



Got any more?"

"You should be asking him all those questions but I will answer the ones I know the answer to"

He wont talk to us remember, and you did agree to be his represenative on here, so you get the questions.

"The school is operating legally."

No its not and you know that you were married to its operations director.

The school has lied to the state about its purpose since its inception. It has claimed to be a traditional boarding school when it is in fact a theraputic boarding school, something they tell parents and something until we forced the situation its own website claimed.

It does this to avoid state regulations and oversight.

Is this your definition of legal?

"The school is and has been accredited academically for years."

Yeah the school is a joke that no one can fail, Im sure if these accredidation boards really looked at the level of education the inmates were getting they would yank it real quick. Again though its Georgia what difference does the accredidation make?

"As far as credentials maybe he was just as fooled by their credentials as everybody else. As you will notice, everybody there now has proper diplomas, etc."

Hmmm youre saying that Buchi was "fooled" by this staff member. The man he made what now the Dean of Students? The Headmaster?

Wouldnt such a position warrant a greater backround check? Wouldnt all the staff members at HLA since they are working with children be subject to rigorous backround checks?

How was he fooled and what did he do to remedy the situation? Also since you claim you have no affiliation with the school now, how would you know the credentials and backround of the current staff?

"And as far as Danny Pervel, maybe he wasnt guilty of the "banging", maybe it was rumor and maybe it was kids making it all up, but I woudlnt know I dont know the guy. "

Why automaticaly assume its a rumor? You have more than one student not only corroborating it but offering other disturbing details about this individual. Wouldnt this warrant the parents attention and be subject to a thorough investigation rather than just be dismissed as a rumor?