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I wont go to Texas or Alabama and now I am thinking Florida
« on: September 30, 2005, 01:34:00 PM »
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Welcome to Florida, but avoid arguments or thanks to a new law you run the risk of getting shot, according to an ad campaign launched by a gun-control group.

The campaign coincides with a state law that enters into effect authorizing gun owners to shoot anyone in a public area who they believe threaten their safety.

The law, supported by the National Rifle Association (NRA), was approved by the state legislature in April. Governor Jeb Bush described it as a "good, common sense, anti-crime issue" when he signed it into law. His is a brother of US President George W. Bush.

Supporters call it the "Stand Your Ground" law, while opponents call it the "Shoot First" law.

Under the previous law gun owners had first to attempt to withdraw and avoid a confrontation, and were authorized to shoot the threatening individual inside their home or property.

Critics say the current law allows gun owners to shoot if they engage in a simple argument. Supporters say that criminals will think twice when they try to attack someone in public.

Before the law was "on the side of the criminal," said Marion Hammer, head of Unified Sportsmen of Florida and a former NRA president. "The new law is on the side of the law-abiding victim," Hammer said.

Enter the Washington DC-based Brady Campaign to Control Gun Violence. The group will run ads in US and British newspapers warning tourists planning to visit Florida that a "nervous and frightened" Florida resident could shoot to kill. "Warning: Florida residents can use deadly force," the ad states.

"If you are involved in a traffic accident or near-miss, remain in your car and keep your hands in plain sight. If someone appears to be angry with you, maintain to the best of your ability a positive attitude, and do not shout or make threatening gestures," the ad reads.

The Brady Campaign promises to also run ads in French, German and Japanese newspapers if they can stretch their budget. They also plan to hand out fliers and post signs on the Florida highways with the warnings.

"It is reasonable to make people know that while they're visiting Florida they should take the right precautions to avoid potentially being victims of violence," Brady Campaign spokesman Peter Hamm told AFP.

The group is named after Jim Brady, spokesman for president Ronald Reagan. Brady received a gunshot that paralyzed him when a mentally disturbed man shot Reagan in 1981.

Florida tourist authorities are hardly amused by the campaign.

"The Brady Campaign is one group's political agenda and not a safety and education issue," fumed Bud Nocera, executive director of Visit Florida, the state's tourism office, who described it as a "scare tactic" campaign.

"It is sad that such an organization would hold the 900,000 men and women who work in the Florida tourism industry, and whose lives depend on it, hostage, to their political agenda," he added.

Nocera said the campaign would have no impact on the millions of tourists that visit Florida, numbering 80 million in 2004.

"I can't understand why anybody would be opposed to telling visitors what the law is," said Hamm. "No state in America has ever passed a law like this one."

The Brady Campaign is "not telling anybody that they shouldn't visit Florida. My family and I vacation in Florida every Easter and were intending to do so. But I'm going to make sure that none of the people in my family get into a loud argument while we are there," he said.



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I wont go to Texas or Alabama and now I am thinking Florida
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2005, 11:52:00 PM »
Why won't you go to Texas or Alabama?
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« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2005, 09:34:00 AM »
I'd spin this another way. If you can shoot first to defend a life...

... what if you see some thugs dragging off a screaming, panicing child, to be thrown in a unmarked van that arent wearing police uniforms? YOU SHOOT TO SAVE THE CHILDS LIFE!

I mean, with all those child molestors running amuck and all, why not think of the children?

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« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2005, 09:39:00 AM »
Under the old law, if you were getting beaten up in your own home, you were forced to withdraw and get out.  There have been cases of domestic violence where the VICTIM was also prosecuted for defending themselves - with any weapon - not just a gun.
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« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2005, 05:37:00 PM »
I live in Florida.  I've been to our world famous gun shows.  I made a purchase at a gun show.  I took a course at a gun show.  I can now legally carry, but I choose not to at the present time.


The new law does not give Floridians the right to shoot indiscriminatly.  It just gives us the right to defend ourselves with lethal force if necessary.  The key word is IF NECESSARY.  Blowing someones head off because they said your new Mustang sucks does not qualify.  Ventilating someones skull because they try to drag you out of your car with a knife held to your throat while at a stoplight does.

Also, anyone discharging a firearm in public without a right to carry permit is in for some serious shit regardless of the reasons.  I had to take the course I did to prove to the State of Florida that I understood the rules and will abide by them and that is the law.  It is still illegal to transport a concealed weapon without a permit.  I try to stay nuetral on these things, but the anti-gun freaks go to far sometimes.
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« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2005, 10:29:00 PM »
Im crazy and convicted so I cant get the gun permit-so I carry my cordless drill with corkscrew attachment for protection.
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« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2005, 10:36:00 PM »
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On 2005-10-01 19:29:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Im crazy and convicted so I cant get the gun permit-so I carry my cordless drill with corkscrew attachment for protection."



 :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:
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« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2005, 10:40:00 PM »
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On 2005-10-01 19:29:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Im crazy and convicted so I cant get the gun permit-so I carry my cordless drill with corkscrew attachment for protection."


Finding a holster for that thing has to be a pain.  That corkscrew can really be a pain in the ass - LITERALLY!  :rofl:
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« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2005, 10:57:00 PM »
I plan to slowly drive several corkscrews in to the arms legs and skull of Helen Petermann and videotape it for all to see.I dont need no stinking holster!
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