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« Reply #195 on: October 21, 2005, 10:10:00 AM »
What types of abuse happened at these facilities?Was Dennis McElwrath directly involved in the abuse against these boys? That's the concern: this man is now at Anchor Academy!
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« Reply #196 on: October 21, 2005, 11:20:00 AM »
I had said I was not going to post here again, it is a futile effort.  But I must answer this post.  Overlord is the one who contacted me to read this posts and I answered on my own.  The inference that Anchor Academy put me up to this is unfounded.  Second, I don't know Deniis McElrath.  I can't defend him or curse him because I don't know him.  He has a good Mom and a good aunt is all I know. I also know, now that he has been connected to some abusive homes.  

What I do see is that once you are even identified in any way with some group that this forum is attacking you turn the tables and start to attack the person or persons who even try and defend wrong judgement.  All I have said in this entire forum is to not judge Anchor without facts and mere suspision or afiliation.
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« Reply #197 on: October 21, 2005, 11:39:00 AM »
dude i know dennis i told you if you want info so bad i can tell you everything about him i know his mom and his dad they know me everyone in the program knows who i am because i was there so long and i will tell you it wasn't pretty but dennis is a good guy again YOU WANT INFO JUST FREAKEN ASK ME E-MAIL ME!
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« Reply #198 on: October 21, 2005, 11:39:00 AM »
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I had said I was not going to post here again, it is a futile effort. But I must answer this post


 :rofl: Dont let the door hit ya on the way out...
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« Reply #199 on: October 21, 2005, 11:45:00 AM »
there i registered you can aim me or email me or do whaever you want for information
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« Reply #200 on: October 21, 2005, 04:50:00 PM »
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On 2005-10-21 08:20:00, Pastor wrote:

"I had said I was not going to post here again, it is a futile effort.  But I must answer this post.  Overlord is the one who contacted me to read this posts and I answered on my own.  The inference that Anchor Academy put me up to this is unfounded.  Second, I don't know Deniis McElrath.  I can't defend him or curse him because I don't know him.  He has a good Mom and a good aunt is all I know. I also know, now that he has been connected to some abusive homes.  



What I do see is that once you are even identified in any way with some group that this forum is attacking you turn the tables and start to attack the person or persons who even try and defend wrong judgement.  All I have said in this entire forum is to not judge Anchor without facts and mere suspision or afiliation.  "


Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

You know full and damn fucking well how hard it is to get actual INFORMATION out of a program because of the nature of how they operate.

No, Im not going to repeat it to you AGAIN, if you honestly cant figure it out enumerating it, AGAIN, would be a waste of my time.

Suspicion is enough to arrest a INDIVIDUAL or throw a kid into a program, but not enough to even critically look at a program itself? Lovely double standard Buddy!

Also, because nobody will investigate it, Id say to turn away from it. Youre saying if its a business that touts jesus they get a slap on the wrist? If not, then what?

Furthermore, Id say the facts from the mouth (well, keyboarding hands) of someone who went there do pretty good myself, wouldnt you?

Affiliation certainly matters with the industry when people operate just like the school they split off from or the network theyre connected to, and suspicion is plenty to go by when NOBODY WHOSE SUPPOSED TO INVESTAGE DOES THEIR FREAKING JOBS.

So, again, Pastor, youre just throwing up chaff becuase you cant admit youre wrong, or anchor is wrong. I tried to use your excuses on someone who is accused of selling or using drugs, and Id love to see your reaction to that. Probably "send the druggie away" or the "dealer to jail", right?

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« Reply #201 on: October 21, 2005, 05:06:00 PM »
What do you mean "it wasn't pretty," and Dennis is a good guy?

We can all pull up sites and read the internet!

BROTHER DENNIS: worked at Mountain Park and while there Joseph Burris cut the throat of another student, 16 year old William Andrew Futrelle.

And: While David Luna was on RED SHIRT punishment--being made to do "squats" while he held a weight over his head, Luna threw the weight at his "tormenter'" hitting him in the head.  Believe Luna was tried for manslaughter.

Eric M. was on RED SHIRT for what? a couple of months?

And GOOD OLE DENNIS is the Superintendent of this fine "SCHOOL?"

Why not explain what RED SHIRT is, instead of trying to tell everyone what a "GOOD FELLOW" Dennis is?
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« Reply #202 on: October 21, 2005, 05:15:00 PM »
Pastor, Dennis McElwrath has worked at some abusive schools: Roloff, Mountain Park. Now people are complaining about Anchor Academy; and discussing such thing as "Red Shirt" punishment.
Lots of people have a nice mother. That is a totally meaningless statement.
Did you ever see an interview with Jeffrey Dahmer's mother? She was a seemingly nice lady, and was even a psychologist. AND LOOK HOW HER SON BEHAVED!
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« Reply #203 on: October 21, 2005, 05:23:00 PM »
How about the education at Anchor Academy?
Do they attend actual classes?  Are they taught by certified teachers?
Are the credits transferable when these boys return home?

What about the religious aspects of Anchor Academy? Do the students have "freedom of religion" at Anchor Academy?  Are they forced to participate in the religious practices of BROTHER Dennis? What happens if the boys refuse? Are they punished, put on RED SHIRT for not participating?

How about some TRUTHFUL ANSWERS to these questions?
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« Reply #204 on: October 21, 2005, 05:59:00 PM »
well, there seems to be a lot of folks here with a lot of time on their hands and a lot of bitterness.  I have read a lot of heresay, but no actual facts of BAD things that have happened.  I think you guys need to go and get jobs!!
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« Reply #205 on: October 21, 2005, 06:06:00 PM »
A kid with a slit throat, and another kid charged with manslaughter...all under the supervision of Dennis McElwrath sounds rather factual!  And this man is still supervising children at Anchor Academy? He's the one who needs another job---AWAY FROM CHILDREN.
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« Reply #206 on: October 21, 2005, 06:28:00 PM »
Did Dennis slit his throat??  When you are dealing with disturbed or rebellious youth things happen!!!
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« Reply #207 on: October 21, 2005, 07:58:00 PM »
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"Did Dennis slit his throat??  When you are dealing with disturbed or rebellious youth things happen!!!"


The question is, "What exactly made the kid "disturbed"?

You know, Pastor and the other supporters - you are amazing - you want to blame kids for being kids, toss them into an isolated, prison type environment, and then you wonder why they fight back.  

There is no due process.  No evidence is required for admission.  The only requirement is based on the the word of the parent(s).  What do you do when the parent(s) are the problem?  

What steps do you take to make sure the parents aren't the problem in the first place?

Maybe you should grab your WWJD bracelet and ask yourself that question!  

You most likely support the war in Iraq, no?  You know - because your own freedom was threatened?  That's all well and good, but let some wrongfully accused (and yes, there are wrongfully accused kids) kid try to fight back, and all of the sudden, "SEE! LOOK!  They ARE Little Criminals!

This is how you bolster your position.  You drive a kid to the breaking point, then you feel vindicated when they take a stand and fight back. That makes you right.

You ever wonder what happens to a kid when they're forced to go to extreme measures?  You think they live out the rest of their lives smugly, without a second thought to the innocent lives they damaged in order to attempt to drive a point home to your deaf ears?  Do you?

Of course not.  It's all about control for you, and an "uncontrollable kid" is a "bad kid"
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Tell me... tell all of us -- what would you do if your home was ransacked tonight and you were tossed in a private jail, - where anyone can do whatever they want to you, because there is no regulation - on a someone's word alone?  You're not allowed to provide evidence, and you're not allowed to defend yourself - because being "defensive" just proves to the powers that be, that you are guilty.  

So what do you do?
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« Reply #208 on: October 21, 2005, 08:16:00 PM »
NO, but it is Dennis's JOB to be supervising these kids! And it is Dennis's obligation to not have KIDS supervising KIDS! And, these schools know these children are "troubled," so they need therapy, supervision. That is HIS JOB, and there is no excuse for this happening.

What's next: THIS WAS GOD'S WILL?

Give me a F....ing break.
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« Reply #209 on: October 21, 2005, 10:49:00 PM »
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On 2005-10-21 07:10:00, Anonymous wrote:

"What types of abuse happened at these facilities?Was Dennis McElwrath directly involved in the abuse against these boys? That's the concern: this man is now at Anchor Academy!"


To my knowledge (I was not one of the boys at Mountain Park) Dennis was very good to them. He also LEFT there, from what I understand because of things going on there that he did not agree with.

Mountain Park was a HORRIBLE place. I did not say anything defending it. All I said was that the people who are most commonly named as offenders were never mean to *me* personally. Most of the abuse and anguish I suffered was at the hands of Mr and Mrs Wills, and a few of their staff members. If you also do some research, you will find many former students who still have good things to say about some of the staff. Many of the staff have contacted us apologizing for the abuse they put us through. Mountain Park, at least on the girls' side, was a brainwashing institution. I believe that is why Dennis left...

Regardless, I am not on here to support lockdown schools. I think they're horrible, and I have talked many a parent out of sending their troubled children away. Out of the over 50 parents I have talked to, not ONE sent their kid to boarding school.

My only intention in posting on here was to say what I know about a man who I believe truly wants to help other young men. I hope I am not wrong.
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