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« on: September 27, 2005, 11:51:00 AM »
It would be great to get a good directory of ed cons that made referrals to survivors of any abusive programs. The post should be simple without reference to the ed cons wrongdoing. The post itself should be a warning to parents and good info for people like me trying to collect data.

Alternately, if no ed con was involved, the referring source, if known - other parents, internet etc... can be listed.
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« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2005, 12:00:00 PM »
Do program parents who refer other parents count?
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« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2005, 12:15:00 PM »
I think they do. In that case, Nancy Hilliard made an avocation out of roping parents into the Seed and then Straight and then some "school" for pregnant girls that fronted as an anti-abortion effort. I want to say it was Bethel, but it was decades ago that I saw the brochur on her table and I really didn't pay it much mind. I figured helping pregnant girls w/ food, clothes and adoption was probably less harmful than what she had been doing. Never imagined what was really going on. Dense, huh?

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« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2006, 11:37:00 AM »
This is a great idea, and the posts could be added to the study being done by that non-profit advocacy group (not sure if it's CAFETY or ISAC, or another one but there is a STUDY being done that is supposed to come out later this year.)

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« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2006, 12:05:00 PM »
You got Ed Cons, Independent Referral Agencies, and the Programs, themselves, who pay parents for referrals.

There are no requirements to call yourself an educational consultant.  That was brought out in Maia's book, as well as how the lack of regulations spawned the birth of the lucrative referral business.

Educational Consultants who are members of their trade org. are forbidden from accepting fees from programs.  Big Whup.

Independent Referral Agents are free to do whatever they want.

Parents who refer for tuition credits (or cash) are completely off the radar screen.

This whole business needs a major overhaul.  It's spreading like a cancer.
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« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2006, 12:30:00 PM »
This would be a good area for investigative journalists to dig into, like DATELINE and 48 Hours, CNN.

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« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2006, 12:52:00 PM »
What about programs where a kid who was referred died?  How come we never hear anything about this?
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« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2006, 01:31:00 PM »
LEONARD BUCCELLATO, HLA
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« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2006, 03:57:00 PM »
Elizabeth Hall- Austin, Tx refers to HLA

Refered based on the "owner's reputation". Knew nothing about the program's policies (mail, phone, restrictions, etc), or that they weren't licensed. In the matter of divorce, she didn't require a copy of the divorce decree or a court order before making the placement. No pre-placement evaluation was conducted. Knew nothing about my child.
An accomplice to kidnapping.
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« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2006, 04:16:00 PM »
Since anyone can call themselves an Educational Consultant, we should probably include referrals of ANY KIND:

Gayle Palmer DeGraff, Director/Owner of the defunct Summit Quest where Michelle Sutton was killed.

She supposedly still works in the industry according to the WWASPS v. PURE transcripts where Sue Scheff testified to her relationship with DeGraff.

http://www.isaccorp.org/wwasps/wwaspsvpure.pdf
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« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2006, 05:21:00 PM »
We were referred to Whitmore Academy in October 2004 by Sue Scheff PURE.
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Ed Con referrals
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2006, 01:16:01 PM »
Steve Bozak referred Ryan Lewis to Alldredge Academy. Bozak told Ryan's parents that Alldredge Academy was the safest place for their son. Ryan died one week after he was enrolled. Alldredge Academy plead
guilty in both criminal and civil court. Bozak just walked away with no negative repercussions.
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« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2006, 06:35:52 PM »
The internets.  :o
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Ed consultants-- this guy is working hard for us.
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2006, 11:05:41 AM »
For me, we have been very fortunate to find a consultant that has provided us much needed support and information. So far, he has been very knowledgable about what our daughter needs. In Columbus, Ohio, every doctor we went to said "this is the guy to talk to".  He charges a fee...and at first I thought it was incredibly high. But, now I think it's not. He has invested hours and hours into research and support.

OUr daughter is finishing wilderness therapy and will go on to a residential treatment program.

Andy Erkis works with parents all over the country, by the way. Here is his website:   www.aerkis.com

I am not endorsing him, just letting you know, for US, he has been a great resource.
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Re: Ed consultants-- this guy is working hard for us.
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2006, 03:16:43 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
For me, we have been very fortunate to find a consultant that has provided us much needed support and information. So far, he has been very knowledgable about what our daughter needs. In Columbus, Ohio, every doctor we went to said "this is the guy to talk to".  He charges a fee...and at first I thought it was incredibly high. But, now I think it's not. He has invested hours and hours into research and support.

OUr daughter is finishing wilderness therapy and will go on to a residential treatment program.

Andy Erkis works with parents all over the country, by the way. Here is his website:   www.aerkis.com

I am not endorsing him, just letting you know, for US, he has been a great resource.


if he refers to "wilderness" and "tbs" he should be STRICTLY AVOIDED.  this guy is a quack, period.
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