Ginger, Ginger, Ginger:
I, for one, dispute these statements. I, unlike you, was actually there.
We are never going to come anywhere close to agreement re The Seed. Further, with the overwhelming amount of posts here, I, (nor anyone else), can possibly, directly, respond to every irresponsible accusation.
Believing that deriding and scoffing at opinions that don?t fit into the closed minded architecture of the hate based mentality of the obsessive will somehow create a consensus that leads to the truth is fantasy, at best.
What do you know about the thousands that went through The Seed? NOTHING, absolutely nothing! You know about the experience of your family and maybe, at most, a few dozen others.
That?s it. And don?t give me The Seed-Straight comparison, it doesn?t work. You attended some open meetings, made some sandwiches, and resented, as a very young child, the attention you were being deprived of because your parents sought help for your sibs, and declare this makes you a Seed expert???
You cite learned bodies that have brought us such other credible undertakings as The Patriot Act, the war in Iraq, tax reform(lol), and dozens upon dozens of similar miscues in recent decades.
Too bad you don?t direct all this zealous energy toward something that might actually help. Actually, that brings to mind a question.
Why don?t you?
And for the record, of course there were people in The Seed that, (in my opinion), didn?t belong there, but these were a minority. Do you honestly believe we (staff) wanted these persons on the program ? Why? I can tell you it did nothing for us except making a very difficult job even harder.
And yes, The Seed was flawed, of course it was. Who or what isn?t?
My problem here isn?t the derision personally directed at me, ranging from dishonest to bizarre to psychotic, it?s the information presented and promoted as authoritative, yet has no basis in fact.
My problem here is the complete lack of respect and regard shown to anyone who dares say they were helped by The Seed
My problem here is that post after post complains about how awful The Seed experience was, but the absence of any statements regarding what these people did, (when they had the opportunity), to make it better, is what I see. Unless you believe whining, complaining and bitching actually works??? Which brings to mind another question.
Do you believe that whining, abasing, complaining, deriding, et al, is somehow cathartic? That this somehow furthers education, enlightenment? Helps people gain a more comforting, honest perspective?
As has been previously stated, what you got yourself here kid is a hate cult, nothing more.
Change it if you can and care.
P.S.
Please don't stop the sparring with Lauderdale. It is the most attractive and endearing thing you have going for you.
