Cross Creek Manor (Programs) are actually licensed...

[kcadams1980]

Most WWASP programs are not licensed in their states/countries and do not have any licensed therapists available.  I did find, however, that Cross Creek IS actually licensed as some kind of mental health facility by the state of Utah - and I know that MY therapist was a LCSW (licensed clinical social worker)at the time and is now a Certified Social Worker (CSW).

This is extremely disturbing to me... I am working on a master's in social work myself (although I'm not planning on going into clinical work), so I find it disgusting, to say the least, that a licensed professional would be a part of (he's been there for over 10 yrs.) such an abusive, coercive & corrupt program. WWASP, Straight, etc. and CCM specifically practices in a way that flies directly in the face of the most basic & fundamental social work values & ethics.  One of the most deeply held social work professional practice values is each clients right to self-determination... We believe in empowering clients (whether their individuals, families or communities) and never, NEVER using coercive tactics as a form of "therapy." Not to mention that, if a social worker ever witnesses, or even SUSPECTS that there is any abuse occuring within their agency, organization etc - they are OBLIGATED to report it immediately!!

When I was about four/five months into the program (Cross Creek) at age 17 (to turn 18 in a couple of months), my therapist - Garth - made me sign a contract (of sorts) stating that I was committed to staying after my 18th birthday to complete the program.  I was also made aware, very early on, that my parents would offer me no help, would not allow me back home, and would not have any communication with me if I chose to leave after 18.  I would have been given a bus ticket to who knows where & $10 in my pocket (that's what I was told) with no protection and/or assistance to at least find a safe place to go... And yet, I supposedly "chose" to stay and complete the program.

I can't imagine how Garth (and other licensed professionals who work in any abusive/coercive program) must justify his long standing involvement with CCM & WWASP.... It makes me sick to my stomach to think about it.

[Anonymous]

Utah is an extremely corrupt state, and WWASPS is an extremely corrupt organization. No wonder they attract such corrupt people who are willing to work for them and abuse kids under the guise of "therapy".

It makes me sick too.

[Anonymous]

WWASP has these fucks bought and paid for. Dont forget Dr Chapuis.  What a sick phony he is.

If insurance companies only knew they were being fraudently billed for . QUACK QUACK

The IRS needs to know too..

Garth babe is a fraud .

Cabin Mental health too. Formerly know as Chapuis and Associates in Montana.....What a sick nightmare.  The licenseing board doesnt care or he would have lost his license by now.
Utah protects their own.  Souls bought and paid for too.

[Anonymous]

Young lady, Cros Creek did that toi many of their 18 year olds who wished to leave. If the kid dint sign the paper,then the parents (guided with the  Program's help)could go to the courts and have their child ordered to stay until "GRADUATION" The grounds were mental incompetence or something similar. Garth was at the fore front if I remember correctly.

I saw and heard about it happening over and over while I attended parent support groups. Including seminars.. They have an answere to every quetion. What ever it took to keep a kid longer in the facility  and to keep the money flowing in. It was only Cross Creek (Utha) where this stunt was used to keep a kid longer.

I'm ashamed to say it seemed to make sense when the goal was graduation for the betterment of the child.  Getting them fully baked and all..

May God forgive us. May our children forgive us  too.   May they rot in hell.

You may want to double check those so called therapist licenseing.  Are they legaldocuments or fraudulent?

[Anonymous]

On 2005-09-20 08:37:00, kcadams1980 wrote:

"Most WWASP programs are not licensed in their states/countries and do not have any licensed therapists available.  I did find, however, that Cross Creek IS actually licensed as some kind of mental health facility by the state of Utah - and I know that MY therapist was a LCSW (licensed clinical social worker)at the time and is now a Certified Social Worker (CSW).



This is extremely disturbing to me... I am working on a master's in social work myself (although I'm not planning on going into clinical work), so I find it disgusting, to say the least, that a licensed professional would be a part of (he's been there for over 10 yrs.) such an abusive, coercive & corrupt program. WWASP, Straight, etc. and CCM specifically practices in a way that flies directly in the face of the most basic & fundamental social work values & ethics.  One of the most deeply held social work professional practice values is each clients right to self-determination... We believe in empowering clients (whether their individuals, families or communities) and never, NEVER using coercive tactics as a form of "therapy." Not to mention that, if a social worker ever witnesses, or even SUSPECTS that there is any abuse occuring within their agency, organization etc - they are OBLIGATED to report it immediately!!



When I was about four/five months into the program (Cross Creek) at age 17 (to turn 18 in a couple of months), my therapist - Garth - made me sign a contract (of sorts) stating that I was committed to staying after my 18th birthday to complete the program.  I was also made aware, very early on, that my parents would offer me no help, would not allow me back home, and would not have any communication with me if I chose to leave after 18.  I would have been given a bus ticket to who knows where & $10 in my pocket (that's what I was told) with no protection and/or assistance to at least find a safe place to go... And yet, I supposedly "chose" to stay and complete the program.



I can't imagine how Garth (and other licensed professionals who work in any abusive/coercive program) must justify his long standing involvement with CCM & WWASP.... It makes me sick to my stomach to think about it."

Ahhh yes, the "exit plan".  If ever a case could be made for parents conspiring with others to keep their kids "under lock and key", this is it.

And who's sick idea was this?  Why ... the Wizard of Oz, of course.  The phony man behind the TASKS curtain.

Sickening and EVIL, EVIL, EVIL.

 :smokin:

[Anonymous]

garth is a sick man who needs to controll little girls inorder to feel good about himself even if that means distroying their self worth

[kcadams1980]

On 2005-09-20 22:14:00, Anonymous wrote:

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Young lady, Cros Creek did that toi many of their 18 year olds who wished to leave. If the kid dint sign the paper,then the parents (guided with the  Program's help)could go to the courts and have their child ordered to stay until "GRADUATION" The grounds were mental incompetence or something similar. Garth was at the fore front if I remember correctly.



I saw and heard about it happening over and over while I attended parent support groups. Including seminars.. They have an answere to every quetion. What ever it took to keep a kid longer in the facility  and to keep the money flowing in. It was only Cross Creek (Utha) where this stunt was used to keep a kid longer.



I'm ashamed to say it seemed to make sense when the goal was graduation for the betterment of the child.  Getting them fully baked and all..



May God forgive us. May our children forgive us  too.   May they rot in hell.



You may want to double check those so called therapist licenseing.  Are they legaldocuments or fraudulent?"

Now that you mention the court ordering, I remember it...after I was coerced into staying (and fully indoctrinated into the program), Garth sent me over to ISO to convince a lower phase girl, who was turning 18 in a couple of weeks (when she wouldn't agree to stay, he told her she could rot in ISO till her birthday), to stay at CCM and graduate.  She did, and ironically, she and I are still good friends today...I remember her telling me that her parents were trying to get a court order for her to stay (and I'm sure Garth was, as you say, at the forefront), but it didn't get to that point.

I found the lisencing info. on utah.gov's site for occupational & professional lisencing.  You can look up people, like I did with Garth, and it gives you info. about when they got the license, what kind of license, etc.  I'm pretty sure it's not fraudulent, but it's obviously that there's little to no state regulation of professional lisensure...Everything about Cross Creek/WWASP directly contradicts the most basic social work values & ethics - I wonder how in the world Garth & others justify working there to themselves, or even if they try to...

[Anonymous]

A WORD ABOUT COURT ORDERS:

If you are "court ordered" as a means of keeping you in a program against your will, and you are over 18, you have the LEGAL RIGHT to challenge the court order.

This is true for teens in the U.S. or "court-ordered" into a facility that is out of the United States (Mexico, Jamaica).

Spread the word.  

Adults can not be institutionalized WITHOUT DUE-PROCESS.

:smokin:

[Nonconformistlaw]

On 2005-09-20 08:37:00, kcadams1980 wrote:
"Most WWASP programs are not licensed in their states/countries and do not have any licensed therapists available.  I did find, however, that Cross Creek IS actually licensed as some kind of mental health facility by the state of Utah - and I know that MY therapist was a LCSW (licensed clinical social worker)at the time and is now a Certified Social Worker (CSW).

This is extremely disturbing to me... I am working on a master's in social work myself (although I'm not planning on going into clinical work), so I find it disgusting, to say the least, that a licensed professional would be a part of (he's been there for over 10 yrs.) such an abusive, coercive & corrupt program. WWASP, Straight, etc. and CCM specifically practices in a way that flies directly in the face of the most basic & fundamental social work values & ethics.  One of the most deeply held social work professional practice values is each clients right to self-determination... We believe in empowering clients (whether their individuals, families or communities) and never, NEVER using coercive tactics as a form of "therapy." Not to mention that, if a social worker ever witnesses, or even SUSPECTS that there is any abuse occuring within their agency, organization etc - they are OBLIGATED to report it immediately!!

When I was about four/five months into the program (Cross Creek) at age 17 (to turn 18 in a couple of months), my therapist - Garth - made me sign a contract (of sorts) stating that I was committed to staying after my 18th birthday to complete the program.  I was also made aware, very early on, that my parents would offer me no help, would not allow me back home, and would not have any communication with me if I chose to leave after 18.  I would have been given a bus ticket to who knows where & $10 in my pocket (that's what I was told) with no protection and/or assistance to at least find a safe place to go... And yet, I supposedly "chose" to stay and complete the program.

I can't imagine how Garth (and other licensed professionals who work in any abusive/coercive program) must justify his long standing involvement with CCM & WWASP.... It makes me sick to my stomach to think about it."

The idea that so many so-called professionals working in programs such as the WWASPS, CCM and Straight, etc. participate in child abuse, oops I mean coercive "therapy" is deeply disturbing to say the least. How these "professionals" sleep at night is beyond comprehension. How do they get away with failing to report abuse when these people should be required by law to report under mandatory reporting statutes? Co-conspirator "professionals" who fail to abide by their statutory reporting obligations need to be prosecuted! And such individuals should lose their license. Oh that's right, I forgot, its "therapy" not abuse.  :roll:

I have serious doubts that licensing will ever change anything...these facilities are masters at hiding abuse and have had decades of experience in pulling the wool over the eyes of many. And I doubt many professionals who still have a conscious want to take the crap that comes with being a "whistle blower." Criminal Prosecution might wake up some so-called "professionals."

Oh, I had a similar experience in Straight after I turned 18. Straight routinely told parents not to help us if we were to fail to complete the program, etc....I was given the "choice" to leave home (kicked out) or sign myself back in the program (even though I had already completed it!) But when I "chose" to be kicked out I didnt get a bus ticket or a dime...I had to leave immediately, even though I had no time to find a place to go. But that wasnt good enough...two days later the bastards resorted to blatantly illegal coercion, kidnapping. :roll:

[Anonymous]

Kelly,

  I would suggest Garth and Dr Chappuis and others like them are very, very well paid.

MONEY is the root of evil.(something like that)

The woman (theraphist ) at SCL who told me my child would benefit from the enviornment at TB,later denied it when I called and told her what I had learned about the place. I asked her to NOT send any more kids there.  She lied too.