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« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2005, 12:27:00 PM »
La Teresa was still standing up and yelling at the school for some stupid crap in '02.  I remember when I was there, she was on a kick about the farm animals.  Although, there was a lot of mistreatment towards those animals, it was always hilarious to hear her yell at the top of her lungs "It is not OK".  She just had a way of saying it!  Anyway, never got sent to Ascent, so I don't know a lot about that program, but I do remember a staff from there named Justine came to BCA for a couple of weeks.  She tried coming in like a hard ass and thought she was gonna get away with drilling kids she barely knew simply because she was from Ascent.  She got her eyes opened when we all got sick of it and let HER have it!  Hee Hee!  Pretty funny!
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« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2005, 02:14:00 PM »
"It's not ok!" La Tresa's favorite words. Oh man was she emotional when she busted out with that one. And people just couldn't help but laugh because she'd string together about 8 of them at once. Only made her angrier. Making La mad was one of my favorite pastimes at BCA. Right up there with brewing wine and smoking yarro haha.

Yeah we had that wilderness challenge at BCA. Not sure about before my time, but we called it the 'Brother's Quest'. You did it with your PG right before (maybe after?) the Brothers propheet. If there's one thing I'll give it up to BCA for, it's how well it got kids in shape. But the BQ was only after about 4-6 months, so half the kids were still whining about a little hiking. I personally had a ton of fun on that trip...despite the occasional raps (hell, we even had raps when I went on the Salmon River white water rafting trip), it was pretty cool to get off campus for a few days and out into the outdoors. But seriously, we all looked forward to doctor's trips to Couer d' Alene or Spokane just to get off campus and eat a little Jack in the Crack. BQ wasn't nearly as long as your wilderness challenge though. We left on a Friday and I'm pretty sure we were back Monday morning.

Staff members would always come over from Ascent between '00 and '02, but most of the time they'd just become activity staff. They were pretty cool for the most part. But we did get one or two who tried to start ripping everyone a new one, and none of the kids would stand for it. Even Mike D'Amico came down at one point looking for a job. For whatever reason, he didn't get it, but I remember 2 guys getting light restrictions for getting in his face and warning him not to show his face around BCA.
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« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2005, 04:44:00 PM »
Ha! Ha! "It's not ok!" I think pretty much every  staff said that at one point when I was there. Actually, it was more of "That's not ok!" and yeah, we looked forward to doctor's trips, too, and we whined when we had to hike. More like we bitched at each other. It was the terrain that was challenging, not the distance. Steep skree fields in canyons. Or hiking through streams, rocky banks, canyon walls, and picking up burrs everywhere we went. (Our challenge was in the high desert.) I think the longest distance we hiked was 12 miles in one day, not too far. We had the hard-frame packs, too, cause the soft packs were new then. If you were lucky, you got to carry the food, cause it was heavy when you started the expedition, when you were at top form, and light towards the end when you were tired. (Although during the Challenge we picked up a cache towards the middle of the trip.) Still, carrying the food rocked, because you had access to whatever you wanted. And god forbid you got separated from the group, you wouldn't starve, you know? (And your group sure had an investment in finding you.) Needless to say, I always opted to carry the food. The winter expeditions were especially cool cause you got to wear skis.

We had four wilderness expeditions at RMA, but I think our program was longer than BCA's. (RMA was two and a half years.) We had an overnight in Voyagers. We had a four day one called the Final Discovery, a six day one called the Final Quest, and a 15 day one called the Wilderness Challenge. (That was the one with the four day solo, and the four day finals groups.)

There were solos on the final discovery and quest, too, but I can't remember how long they were. They were either an hour and four hours, or four hours and overnight. I think it's the first one.

I agree with you. It was such a nice break from having to be at school. Granted, I would totally bitch and piss and moan about hiking, because I was a total wimp, and always at the back of the group trailing behind, but I still loved it.
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« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2005, 05:01:00 PM »
Oh yeah, and the wilderness challenge was a while after your I Want To Live, I believe. The Quest was after your brothers, the discovery was after the childrens, and the overnight was after the truth. (Or sometimes before.)

I honestly can't remember offhand how long you had been at the school by the time you go on your challenge. I think voyageurs is 3 months. Discovery is 3. quest is 6 Challenge is 6 New horizons is 6 and summit is around 4-5. So, You'd probably have been at school around a year and 3 months by the time you went on the challenge. 9 months for the quest, and maybe about 4 or 5 for the discovery.
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« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2005, 05:19:00 PM »
Sounds like the shit we did at Ascent. It sounds like you didn't go there, so I apologize if you did and none of this is new to you, but after 2 weeks of getting yelled at and sawing wood and 'growing emotionally' in base camp, we went on a 2 week hike. Those packs weren't too bad (they were the soft one), but for some reason my group was only 4 kids, so our packs were really heavy. It really sucked...I had spent the last 2 years smoking blunts and I was completely out of shape...it was the middle of the winter like I said, so we were snowshoeing through fresh tracks.

In 2001, they started this trip at BCA to Mt. Rainier. It was an 11 day trip around the 119 mile Wonderland Trail (I think we only did about 97 miles though because of back country camping permits and such). It wasn't something that was part of the program, so only the guys who could really handle it went on that one. Tons of fun, but absolutely brutal. In the beginning we'd do about 6-7 miles a day, but eventually we were up to about 12-14. It would be straight up switchbacks for 5 miles at a time, and then right back down again, which honestly was even worse than the uphill just because of what those packs did to your knees. Fortunately, Ron Mae up at RMA hooked us up with some really nice packs so we hit that shit up in style.

That was the best part about being stuck up there in North Idaho. The trips we got to go on were awesome. Even the Brothers Quest, with everyone bitching at each other for 3 days, was a good time.

Halfway through my stay at BCA, they cut the program. It had been 2 1/2 years when I first got there, but because enrollment was dropping, they cut it to an average of 2 years. The people that opened their peer groups were fucked, and usually ended up staying over 24 months, but people that were the last in before their Truth could sometimes graduate the program in 18 months. I would've graduated in 22 months, but I got pulled after 21.
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« Reply #20 on: September 14, 2005, 05:21:00 PM »
Oh and during those 2 weeks on 'course' at Ascent, we'd do a 4 day solo. I felt bad for the kids who had to do that solo during the summer, because they must've gotten bored out of their minds. I was right on the side of a hill, so I ghetto rigged a snowboard and spent all 4 days carving up powder.
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« Reply #21 on: September 14, 2005, 05:49:00 PM »
Nope. Didn't do Ascent. Ascent didn't exist when I was at RMA. Only CEDU and RMA existed. (Maybe some of the CEDU middle and high schools existed, I don't know.)

Yeah, most hiking days were 5-6 miles except for that one day we did 12 miles, because it was mostly flat and on top of the canyon, as opposed to down inside it, on tougher terrain.

My four day solo was indeed in the summer, but I didn't mind. I got some wicked real estate. Inside the canyon right by the stream, and I was allowed to have both banks, and I had a rock bridge across it, so I didn't have to get wet every time. So all I did was just lounge in the sun all day and chill. There were these big rocks you could just lay down on.

Yeah, Mt. Rainier was a particularly grueling expedition. I remember one peer group doing that as their wilderness challenge. I heard that one of the nicest was the Olympic peninsula. I remember another group doing that one.
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« Reply #22 on: September 15, 2005, 11:11:00 AM »
I split after my first 3 day wilderness, so I was always curious about the Challenge Wildernes trip. When you did a three or four day solo, did anyone check up on you to make sure you were safe?   What did you do for food? Wasn't it scary to sleep alone at night?
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« Reply #23 on: September 15, 2005, 12:50:00 PM »
They checked on you daily but you usually didn't know it. I wasn't scared to be out there. It was actually kind of nice- no one was in my face for those few days. I wouldn't ever choose to do a solo again though.
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« Reply #24 on: September 15, 2005, 02:32:00 PM »
Those solo's definitely were a pretty refreshing break. Having staff in your face all the time was pretty stressful on so many levels, so just being able to get out clear your head, and deal with absolutely no drama was good for the soul you know?
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« Reply #25 on: September 15, 2005, 03:49:00 PM »
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"I split after my first 3 day wilderness, so I was always curious about the Challenge Wildernes trip. When you did a three or four day solo, did anyone check up on you to make sure you were safe?   What did you do for food? Wasn't it scary to sleep alone at night? "


Yep, they check on you daily, are within earshot, and you also get a whistle. And of course, they reassure you that the chief concern among students is that a staff member is going to walk in on you when you are taking a shit, but they assure you that the odds of that are pretty small. So guess who gets walked in on while they are taking a shit? Yours truly!  :rofl:

As for food, you get one big bag of gorp. I wasn't all that hungry, though. I actually burned through my bag the first two days.

I agree with the other two posters. The nicest thing about solo was that I didn't have to deal with other people being in my face. The staff, the peer group, the school, etc.

There was really only one night that was scary for me. I heard something walking around outside my tarp, some sort of animal. I had no idea what it was. I heard it walking around on the rocks. I was so terrified I was too scared to breathe, because it sounded pretty heavy. (We really hadn't encountered any big animals on the expedition.) I have no idea what it was. It didn't sound big enough to be a cow, (they had cattle in that area) or the staff, and it was too big to be a rodent like a raccoon. I'm sure it was harmless, probably a goat, but it sure scared the hell out of me.

Not nearly as scary as the solo of a friend of mine. She woke up with a huge animal's nose sniffing her face! She screamed her lungs out and it ran away.
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