Encouraging Words for a teenager in Behavior Modification Sc

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On 2005-09-11 08:11:00, Anonymous wrote:

"You seem to think that proper parenting involves allowing the kid to do whatever her or she wants. Of course they don't ask to be sent to a program. When they are small, they usually don't ask to go to bed, or to go to school. If there is a need for therapeutic intervention, and all local resources have been exhausted, placement in a reputable program may be necessary. My experience is that there are a number of excellent therapists and non-abusive, excellent programs for teens in need of therapeutic help.  

I am wondering what makes you think I have ruined my kid's life.  What is it you know about my kid? How do you know the kid was harmed by the program? What makes you so sure I was a bad parent?

The answer is- you know nothing.  You are a psychotic, angry young man who has no life other than to bash people on a message forum and promote your own agenda which is based on ignorance.

I hope you aren't operating under the misguided notion that anything you say has any credibility with anyone other than your mutually dysfunction buddies here on this forum. No adult seeking information would view your input with anything but disgust.  In fact, disgusting is probably the best adjective to describe your very being. I hope you have a good therapist (not a quack) yourself.  Please print out all of your posts, take them to your therapist and have a nice double-session exploring why you feel compelled to attack any and all adults who dare to disagree with you and point out what a pathetic loser you are."

No wonder your kid got so fucked up.  Geez, you've got some REAL PROBLEMS.

This type of personal hatred is probably what led your kid to act out.  You obviously have not a shred of decency or compassion.

Did you ever entertain the idea that you are the biggest problem your kid ever had?  No, of course you didn't.

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Again, you will be asked for the umpteenth time: What program did you send your kid to and what programs are "good and effective"?  

Get down off your soapbox and answer MEANINGFUL questions rather than offer your misguided speculations as to what you believe my life to be like (which are ridiculous and patently false).

Please, answer the question, you shifty-eyed little baghead.  I alreadt know you won't, but others need to understand that you've been asked to support your dubious opinion with facts, but that you steadfastly refuse to answer any relevent questions and instead just bash, bash, bash to divert attention from the issue.

We're all waiting anxiously for your first meaningful statement.  What program did you send your kid to and what are the "reputable" ones?  Please, enlighten us...

[Anonymous]

I have attempted to discuss programs with you before, to no avail, because you continue to resort to your "all programs are bad" tape and will never consider any other viewpoint.  In fact, numerous people have attempted to discuss specific programs with you, including kids who have attended them.  You insist that they are brainwashed.  
Anyone reading these threads can easily see what happens when a discussion of specific programs in attempted.  You are a one-trick pony, and the "no wonder your kid is so fucked up" record is getting really old.  In fact, my kid could never approach the level of dysfunction as you, by your own admission in choosing your name, have attained.  
I would worry about you being a parent, but I don't see much chance of that happening because no one would possibly ever be in a relationship with you.  I suppose there is the horrible possibility that you could rape someone, but you probably don't leave your computer terminal long enough.

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On 2005-09-11 08:45:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I have attempted to discuss programs with you before, to no avail, because you continue to resort to your "all programs are bad" tape and will never consider any other viewpoint.  In fact, numerous people have attempted to discuss specific programs with you, including kids who have attended them.  You insist that they are brainwashed.  

Anyone reading these threads can easily see what happens when a discussion of specific programs in attempted.  You are a one-trick pony, and the "no wonder your kid is so fucked up" record is getting really old.  In fact, my kid could never approach the level of dysfunction as you, by your own admission in choosing your name, have attained.  

I would worry about you being a parent, but I don't see much chance of that happening because no one would possibly ever be in a relationship with you.  I suppose there is the horrible possibility that you could rape someone, but you probably don't leave your computer terminal long enough."

All I can say to something like this is "WOW".  You have really showed your true colors here.  

When you were asked to have an academic discussion, you resort to calling me a rapist?  You are a really sick person, and I'm not just kidding around here or being dramatic.  You are genuinely ill.

I'm also a very happily married man with a well-adjusted, highly educated, professional spouse (a teacher).

So, I guess if you really have no interest in supporting your views with verifiable facts, you will just continue to be dismissed as you regularly have been since your first appearance on this board.  Talk about your "one trick pony."  That's you alright.

My opinions come from two sources.  I am an MSW and and MBA and I have great understanding of treatment and the the treatment business.  I also worked in two separate programs and intimately know exactly how they (don't) work, what the motivation of the owners is (profit) and the incredible damage these programs do to the developing mind.

Again, it's patently obvious that having a psychotic parent like you has contributed greatly to the maladaption of your child to societal norms.

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"Compassion is the basis of morality"

-Arnold Schopenhauer[ This Message was edited by: Dysfunction Junction on 2005-09-11 09:00 ]

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On 2005-09-11 08:45:00, Anonymous wrote:

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I would worry about you being a parent, but I don't see much chance of that happening because no one would possibly ever be in a relationship with you.  I suppose there is the horrible possibility that you could rape someone, but you probably don't leave your computer terminal long enough."

The person who wrote this post should be absolutely ashamed of themselves.  This is all the commentary one needs to understand the Struggling Parents that post here and the deep psychological problems they have.

This is shameful and disgusting.

[Anonymous]

"I'm also a very happily married man with a well-adjusted, highly educated, professional spouse (a teacher)"
 

Yeah- we believe THAT- just like we believe you have those degrees.  Take a look at some of your recent posts with the crude sexual references and  see how happily married you are!

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On 2005-09-11 09:17:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2005-09-11 08:45:00, Anonymous wrote:


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I would worry about you being a parent, but I don't see much chance of that happening because no one would possibly ever be in a relationship with you.  I suppose there is the horrible possibility that you could rape someone, but you probably don't leave your computer terminal long enough."

The person who wrote this post should be absolutely ashamed of themselves.  This is all the commentary one needs to understand the Struggling Parents that post here and the deep psychological problems they have.



This is shameful and disgusting."

Apparently this person doesn't understand how awful something like this is.  It reflects so badly on anyone attempting to have a real discussion.  And, to make it worse, they're saying more nasty personal things about someone else instead of explaining why they said something so horrible like this.

This really does make all parents who support programs look like trash.  This person clearly has some mental problems and it's probably a good thing that they were separated from their child.  The child is most likely better off without this kind of role model in their life.

[Anonymous]

You can dish it out, but you sure can't take it, can you?  It is OK for you to make sexual comments about someone and accuse them of being a drug addict, but if someone gives some of it back to you- admittedly stooping to your level- it is a different story.
I am not the poster who made the remark about the horrible possibility of rape, but I think many of you have shown enough dysfunction to be capable of anything.  
Good luck to ya!

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On 2005-09-11 08:45:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I don't see much chance of that happening because no one would possibly ever be in a relationship with you.  I suppose there is the horrible possibility that you could rape someone, but you probably don't leave your computer terminal long enough."

Uh, your opinion really isn't worth anything anymore.  You need help.

What you believe about me is really immaterial.  Of course, someone with not-so-thinly-veiled  psycho-sexual problems, like this poster, could never see any humor in sexual jokes.

Does your past sexual experience lead you to say things like this, or is this level of moral terpitude the norm for you?  Either way, you have serious psychological problems.

Your logical fallacy is that you assume yourself to be normal and others on this BB to be "sick."  You've gotten it exactly backwards.

And you worry about me being a parent, huh?  I feel bad for you.

[Nonconformistlaw]

Pen1 said ----------"Oh and for them to work on what was troubling them inside, you actually think these places give a shit about that, let alone give kids a safe place to share whats happened to them..Ha, that would require caring about these kids.--------------

PEN1 how right you are...I remember being forbidden from talking about how my parent's divorce affected me, and instead was forced to talk about drug use (which I never did), past sexual incidents (which I also had none), and fights with parents and siblings which I could talk about as long as I was fully blaming myself........

Never was one ounce of effort made to help us deal with our issues. The program was not concerned about anything except painting a very pretty FALSE image about the program so no one outside the program really knew what was going on inside the program...

Parents who blindly support these programs support only the FALSE image programs project and advertise...therefore most parents are incapable of knowing the truth...So I agree, clearly the anon you were referring to is completely ignorant and is just pissed because his/her views are challenged (how dare we challenge a brainwashed parent, god forbid).... ::rainbow::

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Well, if we're ever in your area, we'll be sure to take you up on your offer.  One thing I love is a good home-cooked meal.

Wait though, NCL, we did some sexual joking around, and it was fun (and funny).  Doesn't that make me a sick and twisted person worthy of society's scorn and ostracism?  ("...disgusting is probably the best adjective to describe your very being... -anon)

Maybe you should rethink your offer...  :sad:

[OverLordd]

Its really sad some times. They come over there and claim to be open minded, but they start with a bash and are surpised when people react, then they just assume that they did not finish their time in the program. Seemingly program parents tend to think every one has been on a program. You don't know how many time I have been told to
"Go back to my program and finish it." They seem to think the only people that say bad things about the industry as those that were in programs, this of course is far from the truth.

[Nonconformistlaw]

No DJ, joking around (even about sex) does not make anyone sick or have a twisted mind...its called having a sense of humor......a certain anon either doesnt see joking around for what it really is or else just jumps on anything that can be twisted and used against you.

I have no problem whatsoever with my offer... ::rainbow::

[Nonconformistlaw]

Overlordd, you made several good points....and I am one of those so-called "successful program graduates" not a program drop out....But to me it doesnt matter because the program was a dangerous place for children whether I finished the program or not....I am also glad to hear that you dont have to be in a program to see many of them for what they really are...profit making scams posing as "help."

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On 2005-09-11 07:52:00, Anonymous wrote:

"That's right, it's all the parents' fault- these kids have no problems and are perfectly normal, functional teenagers.  The parents just got tired of having them live in the house so decided to spend $60K a year or so to put them in a program.  

Good to see that good ol', psycho Dysfunction Junction rage coming through- again and again."

Hello?  There's a reason these programs are full of mostly white, middle-to-upper-class kids and it ain't because they are all suffering from entitlementitis.  It's because they have lousy, lazy parents with enough case (or leverage) to force their kids out of the home and into one of these mind-numbing institutions.

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On 2005-09-11 12:22:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2005-09-11 07:52:00, Anonymous wrote:


"That's right, it's all the parents' fault- these kids have no problems and are perfectly normal, functional teenagers.  The parents just got tired of having them live in the house so decided to spend $60K a year or so to put them in a program.  


Good to see that good ol', psycho Dysfunction Junction rage coming through- again and again."

Hello?  There's a reason these programs are full of mostly white, middle-to-upper-class kids and it ain't because they are all suffering from entitlementitis.  It's because they have lousy, lazy parents with enough case (or leverage) to force their kids out of the home and into one of these mind-numbing institutions.



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typo ... that's CASH (not case)  sorry~