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Offline BuzzKill

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« on: September 04, 2005, 03:50:00 PM »
Whats the deal with taking down the BBS?
You program parents - tell me - what do you think about this? Is it really gone?

Found this on a Blog site.

WWASPS/Teen Help - Utah, Montana, New York, etc...

In one of the most communistic moves to date, the General Discussion Forum on the parent's BBS has been deleted.

Not just sanitized of any posts that might raise concerns among half-baked parents - it's completely GONE.

There had been LOTS of chatter on the forum about Academy at Ivy Ridge not being accredited, being fined by the state of New York and being declared "education fraud" and my guess is that whomever cleans off those posts every day couldn't keep up and decided to just get rid of the problem altogether.

I can understand that.

I'm sure the LAST thing WWASPS/Teen Helps wants is for all 2,500 or so families involved to find out that the accreditation is worthless, the diplomas are junk, and they are being financially exploited.

posted August 24, 2005.
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« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2005, 10:25:00 AM »
The BBS from my experience was a GREAT tool for WWASP Program to perpetuate the lie. The BBS parents ,some old timeres continue to expound on the virtues of the Program. If ever a parent had a question they had a pro program solution. The explanation goven were always satisfying to the concerned person. Negative was never allowed.

IMO the BBS is the reason we stayed engaged for as long as we did.

If the BBS has been taken down it is as Buzzkill stated . The facts about Ivy Ridge would cause concern. Not for too long though.

An example would be Dundee Ranch and Casa by the Sea. Once a parent is inducted into their cult, it can be hard to see through the trees.......
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« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2005, 05:04:00 PM »
Oh WWASPS, what is it with you and accountability? You speak of children needing to be accountable, yet never the parents, or  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:

this should be gooooooooooooooooooooooooooood

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« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2005, 06:19:00 PM »
I dont know much about the BBS. Do you think there will large back lash because of this? Was it used alot anyway? Could they put up a new one no one knows about yet? Could it just be down because of a hacker or some other issue? Please, thoughts on the causes.
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« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2005, 07:16:00 PM »
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The BBS from my experience was a GREAT tool for WWASP Program to perpetuate the lie. The BBS parents ,some old timeres continue to expound on the virtues of the Program. If ever a parent had a question they had a pro program solution. The explanation goven were always satisfying to the concerned person. Negative was never allowed.



IMO the BBS is the reason we stayed engaged for as long as we did.



If the BBS has been taken down it is as Buzzkill stated . The facts about Ivy Ridge would cause concern. Not for too long though.



An example would be Dundee Ranch and Casa by the Sea. Once a parent is inducted into their cult, it can be hard to see through the trees......."


The parents who fall for this program b.s. hook, line and sinker must feel like real smucks when they finally wake up to the reality that they, not their teens, are the troubled one(s).

The teens are the smart ones, from the first day they arrive at "the program" they know it's no club med and/or an exclusive boarding school.  Hell, even their friends know the score ... as evident by the many postings here on Fornits written by kids looking for their lost friends who have been "sent away" to a place they know sounds more like a hellcamp than a program for "struggling teens".

Thank God for forums like Fornits where the truth, bitter as it is to swallow, is on the menu 24/7 for prospective parents to consider before making a decision they may regret for the rest of their lives.

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« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2005, 02:30:00 PM »
Well, I can't personally confirm that the BBS general board is gone because I was booted off it years ago.
It seems that the boards for the individual "schools" are still operating - just the general board that is gone - which leads me to believe the Bolger is correct in their guess as to why its gone. I'd guess its an attempt to keep the fire from spreading. As it is, I am guessing they think they can keep the majority of the parents ignorant of the problems in "schools" if they can stop the chatter from taking place on the general Discussion board.
I would love to know how the parents feel about this. I can't imagine they wouldn't mind. I can't say for sure about now - but the general board was much more heavily used than the more private school boards when I was on.
I wonder what ole Tom is thinking, about now?
And my friend Linda.
And so many others.
Com'on folks - I know your out there - whats up with this, huh?
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« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2005, 04:13:00 PM »
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"Well, I can't personally confirm that the BBS general board is gone because I was booted off it years ago.

It seems that the boards for the individual "schools" are still operating - just the general board that is gone - which leads me to believe the Bolger is correct in their guess as to why its gone. I'd guess its an attempt to keep the fire from spreading. As it is, I am guessing they think they can keep the majority of the parents ignorant of the problems in "schools" if they can stop the chatter from taking place on the general Discussion board.

I would love to know how the parents feel about this. I can't imagine they wouldn't mind. I can't say for sure about now - but the general board was much more heavily used than the more private school boards when I was on.

I wonder what ole Tom is thinking, about now?

And my friend Linda.

And so many others.

Com'on folks - I know your out there - whats up with this, huh?



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Hi Buzzkill,

I don't get it ... what could be more important to "discuss" than the issues that were brought to light concerning Ivy Ridge?  I mean, it's not like these issues weren't front page news ... so why aren't these parents who have kids at this program (or any other) raising Holy Hell after finding out these diplomas weren't accredited?  Could it be they didn't send their kids for an education but rather, to teach them a different kind of lesson?

Come on parents, put down the koolaid and think.  What are you not seeing?
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« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2005, 03:36:00 PM »
Do the pro WWASPIE parents know about the lawsuit filed?
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« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2005, 05:08:00 PM »
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"Do the pro WWASPIE parents know about the lawsuit filed?"


Yes, of course! Even though you label me "pro wwaspie, I'm pro choice.  It was my choice and what has been best for me and my kid.

 When I looked at it and saw how miniscule the numbers - less than 10? I compared it to the hundreds of families that have been
helped in ways WAY beyond anything that the marketing companies ever said (In a good way)
The lawsuit has had not had a negative impact on parents getting effective help.

What effect has it had on you?

Dolphin
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« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2005, 05:25:00 PM »
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On 2005-09-29 14:08:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2005-09-29 12:36:00, Anonymous wrote:


"Do the pro WWASPIE parents know about the lawsuit filed?"




Yes, of course! Even though you label me "pro wwaspie, I'm pro choice.  It was my choice and what has been best for me and my kid.



 When I looked at it and saw how miniscule the numbers - less than 10? I compared it to the hundreds of families that have been

helped in ways WAY beyond anything that the marketing companies ever said (In a good way)

The lawsuit has had not had a negative impact on parents getting effective help.



What effect has it had on you?



Dolphin





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« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2005, 05:26:00 PM »
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On 2005-09-29 14:08:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2005-09-29 12:36:00, Anonymous wrote:


"Do the pro WWASPIE parents know about the lawsuit filed?"




Yes, of course! Even though you label me "pro wwaspie, I'm pro choice.  It was my choice and what has been best for me and my kid.



 When I looked at it and saw how miniscule the numbers - less than 10? I compared it to the hundreds of families that have been

helped in ways WAY beyond anything that the marketing companies ever said (In a good way)

The lawsuit has had not had a negative impact on parents getting effective help.



What effect has it had on you?



Dolphin





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It's not a numbers game ... it's a money game. If the plaintiffs win, this could be a HUGE SETTLEMENT, correct?

How is that good for WWASP?
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« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2005, 05:41:00 PM »
Hey dolpin -
What do You think about yanking the parent's general board? Does this not raise some questions in your mind? How do you answer them? What possible excuse can you come up with to justify it?
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« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2005, 06:38:00 PM »
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On 2005-09-29 14:08:00, Anonymous wrote:


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On 2005-09-29 12:36:00, Anonymous wrote:



"Do the pro WWASPIE parents know about the lawsuit filed?"







Yes, of course! Even though you label me "pro wwaspie, I'm pro choice.  It was my choice and what has been best for me and my kid.





 When I looked at it and saw how miniscule the numbers - less than 10? I compared it to the hundreds of families that have been


helped in ways WAY beyond anything that the marketing companies ever said (In a good way)


The lawsuit has had not had a negative impact on parents getting effective help.





What effect has it had on you?





Dolphin








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« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2005, 06:45:00 PM »
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"Hey dolpin -

What do You think about yanking the parent's general board? Does this not raise some questions in your mind? How do you answer them? What possible excuse can you come up with to justify it?

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Great question.  Wonder if Dolphin will have an answer ... oops, I mean excuse?  These parents should be seeing red flags not overdosing on the koolaid.
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« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2005, 11:24:00 PM »
General Board on WWASPS BBS being yanked?  Where did that come from?  I was just over there and it's alive and well - did Dolphin say it was gone or something?  Maybe it was down for a short time, that happens once in a while.  No threads missing or posts gone that I can tell.
The education/diploma issues are no longer issues and haven't been for quite some time.

The lawsuit is not about numbers (too small) nor money - there are too many programs out there that charge a lot more with less than desired results.  Don't you all hate WWASPS because it has a great curriculum that can have phenomenal results?  Is that why every other program out there tries to copy it, but just doesn't have it yet?

Badmouth it...no problem.  I know why you do it and it IS all about money
 
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