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« on: September 03, 2005, 01:15:00 PM »
Does anyone know anything about Abundant Life Academy, especially in Kanab, Utah or Craig Rogers, the head of the place?  A friend(15)was taken there under false pretenses and left.  We are very curious about the institution and cannot get satisfactory information from them.  Thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2005, 02:57:00 PM »
Yeah, it's a whacked-out Christian Fundamentalist bootcamp for "troubled teens."

Look at their website.  If it weren't so disturbing, it would be laughable.
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« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2005, 10:15:00 PM »
I am something of a amature theologin. The porgrams that claim to be christian are the one that bothers me the most. They take their actions and cover them in the name of God and not their own actions. Things like 9/11, the crusades, the inquisition, and many many wars in Africa have been done in the name of one god or another. This is one more thing we can put on the list of horror. I hold those that sat they act for God to a higher standard. And those that act for God should not be doing such things as behavior modification. It smacks of a cult, and that is something that needs to be stayed the hell away from. In my view God is a God of free will, and forcing people to change what they believe is simply evil to me. you can debate all you want, argue all you want, and teach all you want, yet it all comes down to THEIR CHOICE. At places like this, children have no choices.
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« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2005, 10:26:00 PM »
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I am something of a amature theologin.


I think you meant 'amateur theologian'?  :wink:
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« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2005, 10:33:00 PM »
haha, damn I was going to spell check that. I completely forgot. haha yeah...
I really really suck a spelling.
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« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2005, 10:36:00 PM »
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On 2005-09-03 19:33:00, OverLordd wrote:

"haha, damn I was going to spell check that. I completely forgot. haha yeah...

I really really suck a spelling."


Among other things, such as commenting.
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« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2005, 10:38:00 PM »
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Among other things, such as commenting.


 :roll: You going to post about the topic or not?
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« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2005, 10:40:00 PM »
No, you see, I don't have first hand knowledge of the program in question. So rather than just randomly speculate off the top of my head as you do, I will refrain from commenting.

Do you know anything about the program, or are you just talking out of your ass as usual?
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« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2005, 10:43:00 PM »
If you will read the post you will notice I did not say a single thing about the program. I talked about the horrors of people doing things in Gods name. I also said that I hold people that do things in Gods name to a higher standard. I said nothing of the programs. Read the damned post before you bash.
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« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2005, 10:45:00 PM »
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On 2005-09-03 19:43:00, OverLordd wrote:

"If you will read the post you will notice I did not say a single thing about the program. I talked about the horrors of people doing things in Gods name. I also said that I hold people that do things in Gods name to a higher standard. I said nothing of the programs. Read the damned post before you bash."


Precisely! You talk out of your ass, completely off topic. Then comment about other people not keeping on topic. You are a hypocrite son. Besides ignorant.  :wstupid:  :tup:
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« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2005, 11:15:00 PM »
Christ your an idiot. I was responding to Dysfunction Junction.
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« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2005, 04:31:00 PM »
Here are some threads on ALA

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=5038&forum=9

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... rt=0#66033

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=9090&forum=9

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=4280&forum=9 (this one's a doozy! Starts out w/ a skreed against Craig Rogers by a former business partner, then Craig chimes in and tidily indicts himself. Hillarity ensues...)

Here are some of Craig's posts (as Craig Rogers)
http://fornits.com/wwf/search.php?term= ... mit=Search

That should get you started. You can probably still contact at least some of these people. If you have trouble in that area (like they don't list an email address) just ask and I'll do what I can to track them down and pass along your contact info to them.

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« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2005, 11:28:00 PM »
Is there anything we can do tho help this 15 year old?  The parents have obviously been brainwashed themselves.
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« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2005, 10:10:00 AM »
Thanks for the information! :grin:
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« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2005, 12:01:00 PM »
I think anyone mentioned in those threads is probably out already. Buzzkill can tell you some, but (imo, even though I like and respect her) I think she's a little foggy on ppl who profess her own faith as Craig does. But she is sincere and very open w/ her thoughts.

I know that Amanda got out. She posts here, there and other sites occasionally. Good luck and please let us know what you find out. Just post it right here as it may be useful to others who bump up against ALA and Craig in future.

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