Whoever you are,you are absolutely right about this particular subject.My parent group was the most fucked up thing you could imagine.I really didn't have any hostility towards my parents.My old man was a hard ass,and I new he wasn't going to handle being swore at.Well the fuckheads up there pulled me out of my group,I think Gottlieb was one of them,and pretty much told me if I didn't cuss my folks out they would cancel the group and my visit.What happened next is a long boring story but lets say it didn't go well.
Bottom line is Elan sucks and is filled with perverted,psychotic,twisted fucks.