The Paranoid Straight Survivors Reunion

[Anonymous]

On 2005-08-14 17:55:00, Anonymous wrote:


Anyway, off to smoke crack with the child support money...."

That's for the "only homeless people smoke pot" remark.  If the other parent of your child actually does shit like that, my apologies.

[Anonymous]

On 2005-08-14 13:51:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Oh fuck you, moron. I smoke pot and have kids, but don't do it in front of them.

See, that's where you're fucking up. You should turn your kids on to weed as soon as they can light a bic.  Yeah, you'll have to givethem the drug speech, you know the one, "Stay out oy my stash you little bastard!".  Other wise, they'll find out about drugs through bad channels, or worse, believe the Man's lies about the sacred cannabis flower, and turn you in for your own good!!  Your parents did, why not your kids??  Hell, they'll think they're saving your life, doing the right thing and all, up to the time Dr. Fucktard sits you down in a blue chair at some government funded reeducation facility. Avoid this nasty scenario.  Teach your kids to smoke pot.

What an asinine comment. In certain states your house can be seized (no joke) for possession of any qty. You wanna take that risk? Fine, np. But don't expect others to have to live by YOUR fucking rules, asshole."

Whatever.  The fact that TBPITW was even mentioned indicates the paranoia of whoever got the notion to ban it.  If I feel comfortable enough to invite someone into my house, of of course I'm  going to expect them to refrain from any illegal activity that would get me  busted, and I would expect that they would feel the same.

Also, there is a difference between someone bringing a joint or fifty to a cocktail party to be inconspicuously shared by the smokers present, and setting up a meth lab in the host's bathroom while he's leading Basics Rap and writing his MI. TBPITW can be used quite unnoticeably, and the aroma has been described as "pleasant" by many who do not smoke it themselves.  My real question is whether the ban on TBPITW is because it is illegal, or because the host considered TBPITW immoral. Logic would dictate that users of TBPITW would be immoral as well, and I don't think I'd want to party with a housefull of paranoids, half of whom think they are superior to the other due to their preferences of intoxicants.  IF I CAN'T MAINLINE SYNTHETIC AYAHUASCA FREEBASE WHILE I'M DANCING NAKED ON YOUR KITCHEN TABLE AT YOUR PARTY, DON'T BOTHER TO CALL, YOU GODDAMN UPTIGHT PRICK!!!!

[Anonymous]

On 2005-08-14 17:57:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2005-08-14 17:55:00, Anonymous wrote:



Anyway, off to smoke crack with the child support money...."

That's for the "only homeless people smoke pot" remark.  If the other parent of your child actually does shit like that, my apologies."

No worries. Ironically enough I had found a way to deal with the situation. The dope dealer became my b/f and so one way or another I did get that child support... :eek:

[Anonymous]

Then there should be a reunion type gathering in a cannabis-friendly location, such as Amsterdam or Vancouver.

Well GO for it, then! What are you waiting for?!? I look forward to attending this event!

I guess "I just" got the gist of the original statement wrong, thinking of it as sort of a discrimination against users of that particular form of recreation.

Not surprising, considering the sensationalistic way in which it was presented. :rofl:

[Anonymous]

Whatever. The fact that TBPITW was even mentioned indicates the paranoia of whoever got the notion to ban it. If I feel comfortable enough to invite someone into my house, of of course I'm going to expect them to refrain from any illegal activity that would get me busted, and I would expect that they would feel the same.

Good point, but actually there was a problem with this the last time. :lol:

[Antigen]

On 2005-08-14 18:20:00, Anonymous wrote:

Also, there is a difference between someone bringing a joint or fifty to a cocktail party to be inconspicuously shared by the smokers present, and setting up a meth lab in the host's bathroom while he's leading Basics Rap and writing his MI.

That's the stickler right there. And this is some pretty compelling evidence of how effective program methods are. See, in the real world, pot smoking really is pretty much accepted behavior, provided you are discrete and don't blow smoke in the faces of people who don't want to know about it. But in program culture, if you do it or allow it or even know about it and resist the compulsion to send up a COC, they'll know! Somehow, they'll know and they'll come and drag you off and take away the house and the kids and....  :eek:

In real life, that hardly ever happens. In real life, middle aged white people just don't get the shake down.

And I'm with ya on how to respond, too. Much respect and affection to those kind folks gracious enough to send out the invite. And I certainly have no objection to participation in events where you can't just spark one up. Had a blast at the local carnival just yesterday. Same deal. Beer everywhere, a few drumblin' stunks here and there. Not a whiff of the sweet leaf to be sniffed anywhere.

However, the paranoia I can do w/o. I just wouldn't enjoy myself under those circumstances and, frankly, have found that drunks who think they're morally superior to tokers tend to be among the most obnoxious and sometimes dangerous of the lot.

How about All Good Music festival in Morgantown next year? Pirate says it rocked.

I'm glad some people have that faith. I don't have that faith. If there is a God, a caring God, then we have to figure he's done an extraordinary job of making a very cruel world.
--Dave Matthews, South African rock musician

[Anonymous]

What? If I don't let people get high in front of my kids then I'm a square?

Yes, that makes you a square.  There is nothing wrong with that, but you do run the risk of your kids learning about drugs from teachers, policemen, and other government sources.  When they turn you in for your own good like they were trained to do, and you're being confronted by Dr. Fucktard in SIBS after the cops seize your house, car, and kids, maybe then you'll regret not exposing your kids to the wonders of marijuana.  Teach kids to start smoking pot for their protection and yours, you fuckin' square!

[Anonymous]

On 2005-08-13 11:08:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2005-08-12 19:57:00, Anonymous wrote:


" yea  then we can all sit and talk about the terrible shit that happened to us and how we blame all our problems today on those days, weeks, months in the program.  weeeeee"

Wow what an insightful post.  I hate it when blind people, or cripples, blame all their problems on the accidents or injuries that made them that way.  I mean, if it only took five seconds twenty years ago to gouge out their eyes, you'd  think that they would have been able to get over it in the ensuing twenty years, wouldn't you?  And the cripples have had plenty of time to adjust to being unable to walk, why are they still so bitter about the car wreck that happened in their teens?  The nerve of some people..... "

  Yep--- just like Christopher Reeves.  He sat around, bitched and complained all day on web sites about his accident.  Blamed the damn horse, the weather, and the saddle - DAMN THEM ALL TO HELL.
  Too bad he didn't use the accident to help others in a POSITIVE way, helping society.

[Anonymous]

On 2005-08-14 13:51:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Oh fuck you, moron. I smoke pot and have kids, but don't do it in front of them. What an asinine comment. In certain states your house can be seized (no joke) for possession of any qty. You wanna take that risk? Fine, np. But don't expect others to have to live by YOUR fucking rules, asshole."

  And WHY don't you smoke it in front of your kids???

[Froderik]

Yes, that makes you a square. There is nothing wrong with that, but you do run the risk of your kids learning about drugs from teachers, policemen, and other government sources. When they turn you in for your own good like they were trained to do, and you're being confronted by Dr. Fucktard in SIBS after the cops seize your house, car, and kids, maybe then you'll regret not exposing your kids to the wonders of marijuana. Teach kids to start smoking pot for their protection and yours, you fuckin' square!

Wtf. Ok...I'll do my best to reply to this w/out getting too disgruntled with these half-baked (pun intended) attempts to make me out to be some kind of "square." I can tell 'em about drugs and my take on them without sparkin' up in front of 'em, no? And did it ever occur to you that perhaps they are a little YOUNG right now to be getting high with? Who knows, maybe when they get a little older I'll treat them to their first (hopefully, but whatever) hit of kind. I know about the risks you mentioned and you make a good point.

And WHY don't you smoke it in front of your kids???

A good enough question, I guess.

BCUZ they are just too young right now, and unfortunately it happens to be illegal in this particular space and time. And who knows, they could rat me out or use it against me someday down the road. To make a long story short and avoid unpleasant details, let's just say that no matter HOW old they were right now, it would be a really STUPID move on my part. (can you say impending divorce?)  I'll bet you don't have kids. And I'll bet that if you did, you might eventually begin to look at things a little differently.

[Anonymous]

oh, some of us can tell who is whom. :wink:

(or is it whom is whom? wtf, w/e  :razz: )

(where's my technical writer? did you get that Strunk & White yet?)

[Anonymous]

wtf ever...i had a pretty good idea as to who was who.

Did I say that right? :stupid emoticon:

[Anonymous]

strunk & white?

[Froderik]

Sorry, I'm back now -- I was just showing my kids how to shoot up...   :rofl:  :rofl:  :grin:

[Anonymous]

On 2005-08-15 21:27:00, Froderik wrote:

"Sorry, I'm back now -- I was just showing my kids how to shoot up...   :rofl:  :rofl:  :grin: "

Excellent!  You're making progress toward protecting yourself from unwelcome intervention, and protecting your kids from the harm that comes with misinformation about drug use.  They're probably a little easier to manage, too.  Don't forget, this can also be a way to reward good behavior and accomplishments, say a dime bag for each "A" on a report card, or a few crack rocks in lieu of an allowance.  Parents like you are the beginning of a new outlook on drugs and drug use in our society, and you are to be commended.