Carlbrook

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On 2006-04-12 14:05:00, Anonymous wrote:

"DJ claims to be a "mental health professional", which is very frightening. I see some real OCD going on with him.  He is obsessed with bringing down Hidden Lake, which shockingly has NOT shut its doors, despite all his predictions of its demise.

He claims to be an adult, yet he posts on the most vile, childish threads on this forum and takes great pleasure in attacking others. BUT-if you should dare to attack him or point out what a moron he is, it is an "ad hominem attack". That's his favorite big word."

Post URL: http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=0#187588

It took TEN YEARS to see documents (proof) coming from HLA about what I've been saying for years.  Call me names if you like, but once again, the EVIDENCE shows I'm right on the money.

If you have actually read what I have written, I have said many times that shutting down programs and bringing these people "to justice" is pie-in-the-sky thinking.  It's not my goal.  

I have always believed that education of the consumer is the only hope to curb the growth of the kiddie jail-for-hire industry.

This requires critical thought. How can a parent say "an internet degree (or no degree at all) is fine" for the person charged with children's care and the fact that a top faculty has been widely accused of child abuse for twenty years in two programs (one of which closed due to rampant abuse that he oversaw) has no bearing on their decision-making?  This is irresponsible and dangerous any way you cut it up.

This is the consumer that the industry preys upon - wealthy and dangerously uneducated.

[Anonymous]

Carlbrook has NEVER had a single complaint of abuse DJ.  You know that.  Maybe the guys in charge didn't approve of the abuse, invested their own money, and started a better program. I'll keep reminding everyone of that...and hope the newcomers see it.

[Anonymous]

Sometimes when a person has surgery, their surgeon (the one they have chosen) has a "fellow" that actually performs the surgery while the head surgeon looks on.  It's called TRAINING, DJ.  Just because someone has not been licensed yet (or ever for that matter) does not indicate whether or not he or she will be effective or not. There are lots of people with good, solid credentials overseeing the program at Carlbrook.  

Anybody listening: ALL TBS PROGRAMS ARE NOT ALIKE.

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Whoever says abuse doesn't happen at Carlbrook needs to get their facts straight.

I was raped repeatedly by the Carlbrook mascot (an apple on a stick) because I wouldn't share my box of yellow peeps with him.

[Anonymous]

Yet one more example of intelligent discourse.

[Anonymous]

Any other Chicago alumnists out there?

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On 2006-04-13 06:14:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Yet one more example of intelligent discourse."

Right, and the previous 99 pages of back-and-forth bullshit was pure brilliance.

You're just jealous because the apple didn't want you.

[Anonymous]

Happy you agree that DJ is full of it!

[Anonymous]

On 2006-04-13 06:28:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Happy you agree that DJ is full of it!"

Karen is a five year old with access to a computer. Karen, go tell your parents you made a boo-boo.

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On 2006-04-13 06:28:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Happy you agree that DJ is full of it!"

I wouldn't know. I'm not a proctologist. It sounds like you have much more experience looking up people's asses than I do.

Whatever gets you off and pays the bills... I suppose.

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On 2006-04-13 05:27:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Carlbrook has NEVER had a single complaint of abuse DJ.  You know that.  Maybe the guys in charge didn't approve of the abuse, invested their own money, and started a better program. I'll keep reminding everyone of that...and hope the newcomers see it."

And I never said that it did.

What I have said all along is that there are "red flags" here that need to be scrutinized.

Read what I wrote.  Don't attribute statements to me that are not mine - that is not good academic discourse and shows weakness in your argument.

Now, let us be clear once more: my goal is to educate the consumer by reporting what I view professionally to be "red flags" indicating high potential for abuse.  

Attacking me is only helping to allow potential abusive situations to continue.  You are doing your part to allow abuse to happen.

Let's get together on the one thing we can agree upon: children deserve proper care.

[Anonymous]

I always pay attention to red flags.  That is why I would never send a kid to most of the other schools.  

18 months of scrutiny...and I never saw anything I didn't like except for the food and a few lame dress code policies.

I did not attribute anything to you. I'm just reminding you that complaints would send up red flags.

Your little buddies out there really help discredit you and I do believe you have made valid points concerning abusive programs.  Good for you - really.  But, maybe your time might be better served exposing those programs instead of playing the "Karen" game.  Karen's kid didn't even make it through Carlbrook.  I know of at least five posters on here that have Carlbrook graduates.

DJ, also, get a grip.  You attack people more than anyone on this sight.  You do it in an cynical, arrogant, pseudo-intellectual way.

[Anonymous]

"I know of at least five posters on here that have Carlbrook graduates. "

How?

[Anonymous]

I know some of them personally.

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I do respond in kind from time to time.

Complaints are not the only red flags.  Very often, before any complaints are made, there are hundreds of incidents that should have yielded a complaint or a criminal charge, but these moneybags are very adept at keeping that information out of public view.  

Again, look at HLA.  After ten years of abusive unethical practices, the first complaints are only now reaching the public.  This is typical.  It took TWENTY-FIVE years to fully document, expose and shut down CEDU.

Carlbrook gets a red flag for having a proven abuse overseer on it's executive staff (don't even think of giving the "Ken Lay" defense either, Tim was intimately involved in the day-to-day operations of CEDU and was fully aware of the abuse).  In my eyes, this is inexcusable.  

Will it be ten or twenty-five years more before the red flags turn into indictments?  I have no idea, but I will have raised the concerns for people to evaluate.  Would it surprise me that down the road this place gets hit hard for abusive practices?  Not in the least - the precedents have been set.