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« Reply #60 on: August 06, 2005, 10:09:00 AM »
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On 2005-08-06 06:16:00, Anonymous wrote:

"The wilderness camp programs are usually not nearly long enough to make permanent behavioral changes in children used to getting into mischief or hurting themselves and/or others. Bad choices are hard to unlearn in 8 weeks. Just because some kids go back to their old ways after wilderness camps don't mean they are all a waste of time. It shouldnt be a shock that some of these kids are getting into trouble after the program. It doesn't mean the program is to blame. It just means the program didn't work for those particular kids."


Ding, Ding!

You can't cure (fix) adolescence.

How about a little ma and pa bonding out in the wilderness with their kid?  Better yet!  Send Ma and/or Pa on a solo.  See if they miracuoulsy become better parents.

50 days in the wilderness?

1 week is about right.

But oops, not nearly as much money to be gleened from their stupid parents as 50-60-90 day programs.

And these parents think they are so smart as to know whether these programs help or hurt?

Hell, they can't even figure out they are being taken for a ride.
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« Reply #61 on: August 06, 2005, 11:41:00 AM »
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Just say YES!
My kid promised to run away if he was sent there.
Two months later, he was asking the staff if he could work for them when he finished school. He loved it.
They really treated the kids well.
He learned a lot of life skills, that he had no chance of learning while stoned everyday. He even learned how to cook and prepare food(in a dutch oven) while he was there too! Those camps are not ALL bad!


Just because your kid did not have the balls to follow through with his threat does not mean that he thinks everything there is alright. Do you know what Stockhome Syndrome is? Thats all these kids are feeling, and they most likely enjoy the idea of a power trip. Graduates working at programs is just a good way to fuck up kids more, its a cycle.

P.S. cooking in a dutch oven is nothing, dont feel proud of that.
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« Reply #62 on: August 06, 2005, 11:43:00 AM »
cooking well in a dutch oven that's a differetn story
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« Reply #63 on: August 06, 2005, 11:57:00 AM »
Its not that hard really, I mean I have been doing it sence I was 12 and teaching it at 15. Now cooking well requires things these kids wont be given. so you know ::shrugs::
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« Reply #64 on: August 06, 2005, 11:58:00 AM »
what do you mean
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« Reply #65 on: August 06, 2005, 12:02:00 PM »
to start off with some one that wants to be careful and really wants to get it right will cook on coals, I dont think they do. Also if you get coals you need something you can move them with so you can heat the right areas. Also you need the proper food and spices. I can cook leg of lam and rice in a dutch oven, but I dont think there going to give these kids leg of lam.
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« Reply #66 on: August 06, 2005, 12:05:00 PM »
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Now cooking well requires things these kids wont be given


Like what?


Love, attention, reassurance, encouragement, admiration, instruction and hope-- all things they will NEVER receive in the program.
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« Reply #67 on: August 06, 2005, 12:07:00 PM »
haha good point, but I was talking about the tools and such.
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« Reply #68 on: August 06, 2005, 12:19:00 PM »
Oh, youre the eaglescout kid
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« Reply #69 on: August 06, 2005, 12:21:00 PM »
you hate gays too?
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« Reply #70 on: August 06, 2005, 12:56:00 PM »
yeah, im the eagle scout kid, no I dont hate gays. they creep me out, but thats pretty normal for most guys.
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« Reply #71 on: August 06, 2005, 01:54:00 PM »
each to his own.
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« Reply #72 on: August 06, 2005, 03:16:00 PM »
TSW - 99% of those gay guys don't want YOU, for that matter.

Plus I know plenty of gay men who hate anal. Apparnetly theyre more into frottage  :wink:

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« Reply #73 on: August 06, 2005, 09:50:00 PM »
What is frottage??

Niles always makes me feel like a child.  Damn...
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« Reply #74 on: August 07, 2005, 02:15:00 PM »
"Frottage"  is the act in which one afflicted with "Frotteurism" engages.  Does that help?

Seriously, it's basically rubbing one's genitals against an unsuspecting person, usually in a public place.  

For example, the NYC subways are full of frotteurs.  

Imagine:  Here you are, TSW, just strap-hanging to the next stop, unaware of what's happening, and there's a gay man behind you rubbing his erection on your buttocks, but you perceive it as simply a crowded subway car where people bump into one another.

Are you now realizing you've been frotted before?   :idea:  Isn't it gross?
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