Typical Day at Sagewalk

[Anonymous]

it's funny, that people who expect to be manipulated are the ones that always have to deal with it.

[Deborah]

Indeed, those apples don't fall far from the tree. Parents expect it because they taught it.

[Anonymous]

And, my brilliant Deborah, are you contending that these troubled teens are manipulative solely because their parents have taught them to be so?  
You really have a high opinion of parents, don't you?
You are such an angry bitch.

[Deborah]

Another saying I like;
Ain't that the pot callin the kettle black.

Yeh, parents/guardians are pretty much responsible for teaching their kids to manipulate. Along with other adult figures. And let's not forget TV. Manipulation is rampant. What is manipulation, but a lie?

Did you ever 'reward' your child for completing tasks? Or bribe?
Did you ever 'redirect' (distract) your child rather than using the situation as an opportunity to teach?
Did you ever make consequences so unreasonable that your child felt s/he had to lie?
Did you ever send your kid to a program without telling them them where they were going and what they might expect?

All forms of manipulation- lying.
Kids pick it up early, sometimes before they're a year old, and then perfect it as they get older.

The thing you should be grateful for is that you are not subject to being illegally incarcerated for your own.

[OverLordd]

Thats what life is guys, manipulation, trying to get what you want. Its in the office, its in the army, its in polotics, its even in churchs. Manipulation is a way to surivive, some times better than if you work hard. Look at it that way. A parent should not send a child into a program just because the child is smarter than the parent and can manipulate the parent, thats just vengful and foolish.

[Anonymous]

Overloard's My Hero "Alegendary man with superhuman powers." My Hero..sigh...... :nworthy:

[OverLordd]

Haha, thanks, even though I mispelled every other word, thanks.

[Anonymous]

No good spelling required just a warm soul. ::blushing::

[OverLordd]

haha

[Anonymous]

I love fornits.

Karen

[OverLordd]

You better! haha

[Anonymous]

I haven't got time to read through the whole thread, and I know the conversation has kind of drifted away from the original post, but watching the episode of Brat Camp that I saw, I had a question for the ex-SageWalkers out there about the morning 5 minute time limit.


Since you'd end up back in your sleeping bags if you screwed up, wouldn't it be better to just not get up when you are supposed to, and get that extra 5 to 10 minutes of sleep anyway, and then get up on the third or fourth go round?

I guess they'd probably punish you, though.

[OverLordd]

they dont give you spice for your food or something, and unless the entire group agrees, every one gets pissed off.

[Anonymous]

On 2005-08-22 19:39:00, OverLordd wrote:

"they dont give you spice for your food or something, and unless the entire group agrees, every one gets pissed off."

But what if the entire group decides to stay in bed?

[OverLordd]

I have no fucking clue, honestly, but cordination like that would be very rare, because by the time some one has thought of that then 2 or 3 have been broken all ready. The entire industry takes some form of compliance and peer presure, I mean really, if some one sent a team in that was made to cause trouble at these places, it could be caused. The kids have to do it, the councilers are just telling what to do.[ This Message was edited by: OverLordd on 2005-08-22 19:46 ]