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« Reply #255 on: August 02, 2005, 12:49:00 PM »
Atomic Ant- these kind of issues with a pre-schooler or 2nd grader do not exactly bear much resemblance to what we are discussing here. Multiply what you described by hundreds- add drugs, alcohol and driving, and then we'll talk.  Oh-and the kid should weigh more than YOU.
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« Reply #256 on: August 02, 2005, 12:52:00 PM »
I mentioned a number of good programs in my post. I have provided names privately to many people who have inquired.  I know better than to do so publicly on this forum.  Good try, but I'm not taking the bait.
Arguing with you Fornitscators is not that exciting-hate to tell you.  It is very tedious and boring. I am here to counter your idiocy.
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« Reply #257 on: August 02, 2005, 12:54:00 PM »
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"You claim you want to help parents find good programs and then you say this:



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I don't care to name the programs my son attended.

It's not clear to me how naming a program could compromise a persons' anonimity.
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« Reply #258 on: August 02, 2005, 12:58:00 PM »
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On 2005-08-02 09:52:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I mentioned a number of good programs in my post. I have provided names privately to many people who have inquired.  I know better than to do so publicly on this forum.  Good try, but I'm not taking the bait.

Arguing with you Fornitscators is not that exciting-hate to tell you.  It is very tedious and boring. I am here to counter your idiocy."


So you willingly state you are not here to have an intelligent debate.

You outted yourself as a troll, I suggest EVERYONE ignores this character.

I hope antigen can mark you IP with an avatar, it would make it easier to avoid you, troll.
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« Reply #259 on: August 02, 2005, 01:03:00 PM »
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Arguing with you Fornitscators is not that exciting-hate to tell you. It is very tedious and boring. I am here to counter your idiocy."


HAHAHAHAHA

You fucking idiot, again you can't help but end your posts with how much you hate fornits. I hope you realize how stupid you look while saying this. You post here and spend more time here than anyone else, you made that much obvious. You must wake up angry, go to sleep angry and spend your entire life angry.

I pity you, and hope your family does as well, because you need help.
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« Reply #260 on: August 02, 2005, 01:05:00 PM »
check out this website

http://www.anti-wwasp.tk

a great new website for those against WWASP

 :tup:  :tup:  :tup:  :tup:
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« Reply #261 on: August 02, 2005, 01:11:00 PM »
The most hilarious part of this thread is the fact this ST troll suggests she (Im willing to bet this is a program mom) came over here only after being 'attacked' by Overlord.

Lady, you have become exactly what you supposively hate. You are overlord, you are the overlord of Fornits now. How much did you respect what OL said at ST? How much serious thought did you give his posts? What did the general community think of him? Did this hurt/help his own stance on the issue?

This is what is so funny, I am literally laughing out loud. Watching someone become what they hate, it doesn't get any better than that!

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« Reply #262 on: August 02, 2005, 01:30:00 PM »
Fornits and "Intelligent Debate" is an oxymoron.
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« Reply #263 on: August 02, 2005, 01:33:00 PM »
That's not a fair comparison; Overlordd can't type, write or spell (take your pick) so he's at a distinct disadvantage on ST.  And anyone who says all programs are bad clearly isn't possessed of an open mind.  

No one says abuses didn't occur.  What I object to is taking my posts from ST and posting them here so everyone can laugh.  No one has taken honest, first person accounts of abuse from Fornits and put them on ST so we could all make fun of them.  Why?  BECAUSE IT WOULD BE WRONG.  That's what started this.  Someone from this site took my words and called them 'funny s**t'.  Not funny any more.
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« Reply #264 on: August 02, 2005, 01:50:00 PM »
Finally some names of the 'ST Preferred List'.

How ST defines an ?Acceptable? program:
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=50#15461

Many of the primary staff at Carlbrook came from the maverick program Academy at Swift River. You know the mavericks who staunchly refuse to be licensed and monitored by the state. (didn?t know a 24/7/365 child caring institution had that option or power)
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=20#49399

2002 Feb- Carlbrook requires SUWS prior to enrollment.
http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... sit02.html
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... rt=0#69285

Side effects:
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=40#75452

Opinion/ Critique
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... rt=0#90322

CASCADE? Another defunct program, due to lack of enrollment. The truth eventually catches up:
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?mo ... rt=0&Sort=

What say you PPs? Are you comfortable with your child attending a program(s) that models such lack a of integrity? Why would you or Lon refer parents to such an establishment? Do you inform parents that there is no governmental oversight?
I might add that Lon just put out an article on ?Secrets?- modeling the behavior you expect of the kids. Seems that only apply to program ?referral fees? though, not lying to the state about your services and avoiding oversight.
http://www.strugglingteens.com/artman/p ... 5174.shtml

Why do we talk in ?general? about programs? Because years of research has shown that most of these programs came out of CEDU- an abusive, and now defunct, program. There?s nothing new under the sun in terms of BM and mental conditioning. There are only so many ways it can be administered.

More info where this came from, just click Search WWF and type in the name of the program or one of the key players. Then do the same in a Google search. That?s how you research programs.
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Hidden Lake Academy, after operating 12 years unlicensed will now be monitored by the state. Access information on the Federal Class Action lawsuit against HLA here: http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?t=17700

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« Reply #265 on: August 02, 2005, 02:00:00 PM »
WHICH PROGRAMS DID YOU SEND YOUR KIDS TO?

DJ, you are asking the forbidden question. They are conditioned at ST not to speak of any specific program on the forum. They want all recruitment to be conducted privately... cuts down on Lon's liability and problems with advertisers.
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« Reply #266 on: August 02, 2005, 02:03:00 PM »
Let?s play Identify the ST troll.

Who said:
That's what started this. Someone from this site took my words and called them 'funny s**t'. Not funny any more.

I think that would be Dev:
http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.ph ... 95&forum=9
Looking at all the possibilities in that thread, I?m going to guess that the troll is the attorney from Dallas.


***What I object to is taking my posts from ST and posting them here so everyone can laugh.

Have you asked that individual to delete or edit his/her posts?
Seems reasonable that they might consider XXXing out the identifiers.
As to people's reactions to and opinions of your comments and choices, that can't be controlled. You put your story out for the public to read. It's pretty much open game for praise AND criticism.



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« Reply #267 on: August 02, 2005, 02:08:00 PM »
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No one has taken honest, first person accounts of abuse from Fornits and put them on ST so we could all make fun of them. Why?


Why?! Because ST doesn't allow debate, they are a support group for program parents. You don't think some of us have tried posting our real experiences there? LOL Get real! You can play victim all you want, but you ain't winning any sympathy points here.

I would love for you to copy/paste first hand abusive experiences onto your website. It would certainly bring more reality to your delusional message board.

Now, off to look for the post labeled 'funny shit' so I can identify you, AND MAKE FUN OF YOU MORE!

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« Reply #268 on: August 02, 2005, 02:13:00 PM »
Are you trying to say that Carlbrook and Swift River are bad, abusive programs? Yes, Carlbrook requires wilderness prior to enrollment. It does not have to be SUWS.  Hidden Lake has its own captive wilderness program.  These schools have strong academics, excellent therapists and are well-run and safe. Are there imperfections with the programs?  Sure.  Show me a school- any kind of school- that is perfect.  
The young man who left Carlbrook at 18 (in your link) is but one voice. Do you really think he is representative?  
I am not going to go into the licensing debate. There are many reasons why a business of ANY kind chooses to resist licensing requirements. I have been involved in these kind of disputes in totally unrelated industries.  It does not mean that they have something to hide or want to run an abusive organization.
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« Reply #269 on: August 02, 2005, 02:18:00 PM »
Typical program parent. :lol:
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