Author Topic: THE FAMILY FOUNDATION SCHOOL IN HANCOCK .!!Please Read!!!  (Read 6018 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline p.e.n.i.#1

  • Posts: 21
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
THE FAMILY FOUNDATION SCHOOL IN HANCOCK .!!Please Read!!!
« on: July 14, 2005, 12:45:00 AM »
I REALLLY NEED SOMEONE OUT THERE THAT HAS HAD PERSONAL EXPEIRNCE WITH THIS PLACE. MY SON IS THERE AND I WISH I COULD GET HIM BACK I LOST CUSTODY OF HIM AND HIS DAD SENT HIM OUT TO THIS HORRID PLACE. NO, MY SON WAS NOT REBELLIOUS, HE WAS SENT THERE OUT OF HATRED FOR ME BY HIS DAD. 3 WEEKS HAVE PASSED AND STILL NO WORD FROM MY SON, ALLTHOUGH HE HAS BEEN THERE FOR 5 MONTHS NOW. HE IS IN THE CORNER AND THE CONTACT PERSON HANGS UP ON ME. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO TO THAT DAMN PLACE AND THOSE LIKE IT.. BUT I CAN ONLY IMAGINE AND DREAM BECAUSE THIS IS THE WORLD WE LIVE IN AND SLOWLY BUT SURELY WE ARE ALL LOSING OUR FREEDOM.... OR DID WE EVER HAVE IT ??? PLEASE REPLY.. ANYONE~!!!!!!!
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline OverLordd

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 802
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
THE FAMILY FOUNDATION SCHOOL IN HANCOCK .!!Please Read!!!
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2005, 08:48:00 AM »
Your best bet is to get a lawyer and take it to court. You could also go pick him up your self with a cop with you, he is your child and there for you have the right to do such things...

I hope I dident feed a troll
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »
our walking down a hallway, you turn left, you turn right. BRICK WALL!

GAH!!!!

Yeah, hes a survivor.

Offline p.e.n.i.#1

  • Posts: 21
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
THE FAMILY FOUNDATION SCHOOL IN HANCOCK .!!Please Read!!!
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2005, 10:57:00 AM »
tahnk you for the suggestion, i forgot to mention that I have spent 16,000 in legal fees already. Even though I presented all the evedince that this was the wrong placement made, the judge still ruled against me. the only way i could go pick him up, would be in a helicopter, the school wont release him to me, per california court orders, I am petitioning the court again though this is why I need to have peoples personal expeirence on the place, obviously my testamony and the expert witness that testafied were not enough to convince your honor. SO now knowing a little more any other suggests??? please , thank you again for the reply though it is pretty lonely right now in my world. K
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline OverLordd

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 802
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
THE FAMILY FOUNDATION SCHOOL IN HANCOCK .!!Please Read!!!
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2005, 11:00:00 AM »
I dont know much about the place, try emailing some one here http://www.isaccorp.org for help, they may be able to tell you about it or do somthing, give you some info at least.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »
our walking down a hallway, you turn left, you turn right. BRICK WALL!

GAH!!!!

Yeah, hes a survivor.

Offline p.e.n.i.#1

  • Posts: 21
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
THE FAMILY FOUNDATION SCHOOL IN HANCOCK .!!Please Read!!!
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2005, 11:07:00 AM »
thank you again, you are quick to reply! I will definitly take your suggestion, agian much appreciated
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline Anonymous

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 164653
  • Karma: +3/-4
    • View Profile
THE FAMILY FOUNDATION SCHOOL IN HANCOCK .!!Please Read!!!
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2005, 01:22:00 PM »
Go and listen to a 17 year old. nice
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline Anonymous

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 164653
  • Karma: +3/-4
    • View Profile
THE FAMILY FOUNDATION SCHOOL IN HANCOCK .!!Please Read!!!
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2005, 01:26:00 PM »
Quote
On 2005-07-14 10:22:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Go and listen to a 17 year old. nice"


He's giving that lady some good advice. Why should his age matter?

This looks like a really lame attempt to discredit OL. You don't really have anything to go on, so you pick on the age thing. Nice.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline Anonymous

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 164653
  • Karma: +3/-4
    • View Profile
THE FAMILY FOUNDATION SCHOOL IN HANCOCK .!!Please Read!!!
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2005, 02:34:00 PM »
Maybe you need a better lawyer?  Definitely contact ISAC, they have experience with parents who have brought successful cases.

Sometimes, all you can do is all you can do.  At least when your son gets out he will know you went all out to try to protect him.  That may really help him in regaining his trust--of people like you who are worthy of it, anyway.

I'm saying what you've already done is doing some good even though you haven't been successful.  It will be important to your son that you tried.

Timoclea
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline Deborah

  • Posts: 5383
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
THE FAMILY FOUNDATION SCHOOL IN HANCOCK .!!Please Read!!!
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2005, 03:14:00 PM »
A better lawyer was not helpful in my situation. I told him I wanted an injunction to bring my son home immediately because my parental rights had been violated without due process or a court order. With him home, we could then proceed to prove that any 'help' he needed was available locally, and that this placement was actually an act of vengence.

The scum bag took my retainer, rarely returned phone calls, did not do what he agreed to do, gradually led my case toward a custody battle which I never wanted complete with psych evals all around which could be contested and a third party (guardian adlitem) for my son. = A bunch of money and time. My son could be out by the time a custody battle could be fought. The day of our mediation he was hanging out with the 'boys' (my ex, his attorney, and the mediator) checking out my ex's attorney's new pick-up truck, when I drove up.

During that mediation my ex and I made compromises. I left there crying because what I had agreed to could've possibly resulted in it being easier for the program to deny me phone access to my son. When I got home and read the document I discovered that my ex's 'compromise' was not listed, only mine. I ripped up the document and fired my attorney immediately.

What rights, if any do you have? You can show up with your divorce decree and demand visitation anytime it is court ordered. That document supercedes all program policies. If they don't release him, call or go to the police dept and ask for assistance. If you have to force the issue, this could actually have a positive effect for you in future family court matters.

If you decide to hire an attorney, severely scrutinize him/her in an interview. Ask for a specific plan of action that will get your son home quickly- an injunction. If s/he varies from what was agreed upon in the initial meeting, fire her/him immediately and file a complaint.
Then... start the process over again.

If you happen to get one with any integrity at all, then argue that services are available locally- the placement is inappropriate and too austere, that he was placed in violation of the ICPC (search WWF for more info on that), and do not let them lead you into a custody battle which could take years and tens-to-hundreds of thousands of dollars. You need immediate results- get the course of action s/he will take in writing, preferably in the contract. If they can't produce, move on.

You are not the only parent who has found themselves in this position. Expect the very real possibility that the program will perjure themselves in order to sway the judge. It won't be an easy fight, but one that I had to take on even though I knew the odds were against me. Good luck.

Here's the irony of this bullshit. If you go get your son you could risk being charged with kidnapping, but your spouse placing your son there is not considered kidnapping. A precedent needs to be set in terms of programs colluding with disgruntled parents who would seek to punish their child and ex with a program placement.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »
gt;>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Hidden Lake Academy, after operating 12 years unlicensed will now be monitored by the state. Access information on the Federal Class Action lawsuit against HLA here: http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?t=17700

Offline p.e.n.i.#1

  • Posts: 21
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
THE FAMILY FOUNDATION SCHOOL IN HANCOCK .!!Please Read!!!
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2005, 04:00:00 PM »
SO WHEN THIS 17 YEAR OLD TURNS 18 THEN SHOULD I, OR CAN I THEN LISTEN TO THEM? I ALMOST FORGOT IF YOUR UNDER 18 YOU HAVE NOT A VOICE. IT WAS GREAT ADVISE BY THE WAY MORE THAN YOUR INPUT ANYWAY....
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline Nihilanthic

  • Posts: 3931
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
THE FAMILY FOUNDATION SCHOOL IN HANCOCK .!!Please Read!!!
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2005, 04:07:00 PM »
As soon as the child is 18 he can leave of his own free will. Make sure he knows that, and be there for him so he has someone to go to. His dad will try to pressure him to stay or cut off all contact with him (that is if this program does anything like a exit plan) so just tell the kid that 1. he CANT be made to stay and 2. if his dad does that YOU will take care of him.

Its gonna be hard, but this is just the way it goes. Sorry you got sucked into this mess.

Religion is just mind control.
--George Carlin, comedian

« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »
DannyB on the internet:I CALLED A LAWYER TODAY TO SEE IF I COULD SUE YOUR ASSES FOR DOING THIS BUT THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE.

CCMGirl on program restraints: "DON\'T TAZ ME BRO!!!!!"

TheWho on program survivors: "From where I sit I see all the anit-program[sic] people doing all the complaining and crying."

Offline Deborah

  • Posts: 5383
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
THE FAMILY FOUNDATION SCHOOL IN HANCOCK .!!Please Read!!!
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2005, 05:15:00 PM »
Depending on the dad's finances and determination, he could extend custody beyond 18, or attempt to anyway.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »
gt;>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Hidden Lake Academy, after operating 12 years unlicensed will now be monitored by the state. Access information on the Federal Class Action lawsuit against HLA here: http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?t=17700

Offline cherish wisdom

  • Posts: 586
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
THE FAMILY FOUNDATION SCHOOL IN HANCOCK .!!Please Read!!!
« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2005, 07:11:00 PM »
I'd suggest you get an order to show cause and try to re-establish your parental rights. Ask for joint custody again. Once you have joint custody they will need the consent of both parents. Is this school in California? I've never heard of it before.

Life is like a bird, at any given moment it is droping a load. It is only a matter of time before one eventually find you.

http://fornits.com/about_us.htm' target='_new'>SysAdmin

« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »
If you lack wisdom ask of God and it shall be given to you.\"

Offline Antigen

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 12992
  • Karma: +3/-0
    • View Profile
    • http://wwf.Fornits.com/
THE FAMILY FOUNDATION SCHOOL IN HANCOCK .!!Please Read!!!
« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2005, 07:55:00 PM »
Quote
On 2005-07-14 10:22:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Go and listen to a 17 year old. nice"


Go ahead, plug your ears and say "lalalalala" if that's what you have to do to sleep at night.

The United States of America should have a foundation free from the influence of clergy.".
--George Washington, Revolutionary War General and U.S. President

« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »
"Don\'t let the past remind us of what we are not now."
~ Crosby Stills Nash & Young, Sweet Judy Blue Eyes

Offline Antigen

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 12992
  • Karma: +3/-0
    • View Profile
    • http://wwf.Fornits.com/
THE FAMILY FOUNDATION SCHOOL IN HANCOCK .!!Please Read!!!
« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2005, 08:10:00 PM »
This site has a phone number and some links. Might get some leads there.

http://websleuths.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-9453

Anonymity Anonymous
return undef() if /coercion/i;
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »
"Don\'t let the past remind us of what we are not now."
~ Crosby Stills Nash & Young, Sweet Judy Blue Eyes