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« Reply #30 on: July 06, 2005, 03:07:00 PM »
Casey and Mackey have not returned to Whitmore. Casey is home and doing well, Mackey is out on his own apparently doing fine.

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« Reply #31 on: July 06, 2005, 03:09:00 PM »
So the 3rd boy IS back at the Whitmore, then?
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« Reply #32 on: July 06, 2005, 04:05:00 PM »
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On 2005-07-06 11:04:00, Anonymous wrote:

"If something were to happen to the missing boy on this journey "to find himself", you better belive that the individual responsible for providing the money, tickets and propaganda will be held responsible.  I know that for a fact. I bet she's keeping her fingers crossed that EVERYONE returns safely, so she can be out of hot water. No denying that.



Speculate all you wish, but I'm fairly certain that ALL 3 boys will go back to Whitmore and not by force.  Their parents love these boys and are willing to do anything to help them develop into sucessful young men. I know that ALL of the boys have confirmed that there was NO abuse at Whitmore, and they left because SOMEONE provided the means to a group of young, immature, troubled young men.  When I was that young, I would have thought it would have been a fun idea to travel cross country with friends and travelling to different concerts.  Especially with $750 burning a hole in my pocket!



I cant believe what I read on these message boards.  It is extremely vengeful, immature and genuinely unacceptable.  "


"Generally unacceptable?"

By whose standards?  An anonymous Whitmore program apologist/supporter?

That's not just ridiculous, it's downright laughable.

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« Reply #33 on: July 06, 2005, 04:08:00 PM »
Question:

If a kid is coerced/forced back into a program under investigation and where one of the owners has been charged with breaking the law and may even be named in a civil lawsuit, does that kid have any legal recourse of their own whether they are 18 or not?

Anybody know???????
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« Reply #34 on: July 06, 2005, 04:53:00 PM »
Could those kids still at Whitmore turn themselves over to DCFS for protection, since thier parents choose to leave them at a place where the owner has been charged with child abuse, and where the investigation is STILL ongoing?
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« Reply #35 on: July 06, 2005, 04:55:00 PM »
Technically, yeah, they probably do. But it's a catch 22. They'd have to turn themselves and their parents over to the tender mercies of the child welfare people or the civil and possibly criminal courts. Most kids are actually unwilling to do unto their parents what has been done unto them. Most kids just want their freedom and to patch things up w/ their families.

And I think they're right about that. I'm both skeptical and ambivalent about all these legal actions against programs. Not being omnicient myself, I'm always willing to give anybody the benefit of the doubt and to take a Wilsonian watch and wait approach. But, for the most part, I think the legal actions serve only to further complicate things. They do generate some publicity and, thereby, foster some much needed discussion and fact finding. But I honestly don't think that's the best way to accomplish that. OTOH, I don't think there's any better way to tank the finances of wrong doers except by tort law. So... I'm back to ambivalent. Maybe it is the best way to proceed and I'm just an idealistic dreamer, wishing there were a better way.


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« Reply #36 on: July 06, 2005, 05:01:00 PM »
haha you people still dont know what is going on. And yes, the 3rd boy, Mike is back at the whitmore.
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« Reply #37 on: July 06, 2005, 05:39:00 PM »
If you are a kid in a program in Utah, you can and must report ABUSE under the Utah Abuse and Neglect Reporting Law (something most kids don't even know about):

UTAH ABUSE AND NEGLECT REPORTING LAW
U.C.A. Section 62A-4-503,62A-3-302

1. Any person, including, but not limited to, any social worker, physician, psychologist, nurse, teacher, or employee, who has a reason to believe that any person has been subject to abuse, neglect, or exploitation, shall immediately notify the nearest peace officer, law enforcement agency, or protective services agency.

2. Anyone who, in good faith, makes such a report shall be immune from civil liability in connection with the report.  

3. When the initial report is made to the peace officer or law enforcement agency, such officer or agency shall immediately notify the nearest protective services agency and the agency shall initiate protective service procedures as
provided in this chapter.  When the initial report is made to the protective services agency, and it appears that the abuse, neglect, or exploitation has caused serious injury or a serious imposition on the rights of the person, the agency shall immediately notify the local law enforcement agency, which shall initiate an investigation, and in cooperation with the protective services agency, initiate appropriate protective service procedures.

4. Any person required to report a suspected case of abuse, neglect, or exploitation, who willfully fails to do so, is guilty of a class B misdemeanor.

5. Any person who abuses, neglects, or exploits, is guilty of a third degree felony

In Utah, call 9-1-1 and ask them to connect you to the LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENT or CHILDREN'S PROTECTIVE SERVICES (CPS) AGENCY.

Hope this helps!
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« Reply #38 on: July 06, 2005, 05:51:00 PM »
i went to the whitmore and i can honestly say cheryl is a bi-polar bitch and the whitmore is just one big expensive lie. i really fucking hate cheryl and her fag ass son brek.
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« Reply #39 on: July 06, 2005, 08:01:00 PM »
Wow, that was really low. Cheryl is unstable and frankly, a bitch so I really don't have an objection to your comment about her especially because she's an adult. But Brek is 11 or 12 years old- can you imagine living with such an unstable mother? One who never pays any attention to you because she's too busy "treating" everyone else? I'd be a little screwed up too. Think about what one year with her does to kids...now think about his almost 12 years. I don't think that was an appropriate comment at all.
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« Reply #40 on: July 06, 2005, 08:16:00 PM »
What "was really low?"  What comment had anything to do with the Sudweeks young boy?
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« Reply #41 on: July 06, 2005, 08:22:00 PM »
I re-read and saw the crude, unacceptable remark about the Sudweeks young son. Absolutely, totally uncalled for--this boy is a child and should not be called any names, and should not have his name posted. Whoever posted that is way out of line.
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« Reply #42 on: July 06, 2005, 08:43:00 PM »
No kidding, Tha Truth! That hurt. Very close to home. When I was 12, I'd already spent half my life in a very similar cult. I was an asshole!, pure and simple. But I hadn't yet come of age. I'm very grateful to those who understood and cut me some slack and quite resentful toward those who should have known better but just didn't bother.

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« Reply #43 on: July 06, 2005, 09:39:00 PM »
Talking about someones child is the worst form of evil!!!!!! Especially one as young as he is.
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« Reply #44 on: July 06, 2005, 09:57:00 PM »
Someone's child? Have you more sympaty for Cheryl than for Brek? I feel sorry for Brek and hope that, one day, he'll come out from under it all and have some peace.

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