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« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2005, 03:47:00 PM »
Some of the people who helped author the language of the bill were disillusioned Teen Help parents, who realized that their kids had been abused.

 The main people to write to would be Rep. Miller, thanking him for introducing the bill and stating your support; Rep. John Boehner, who chairs the Committee on Education and the Workforce; and Rep. Henry Hyde, who chairs the Committee on International Relations. (The bill has been referred to both of these committees.)

Following are some template letters; please feel free to copy them. I'm also including each Congressman's mailing address.

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The Honorable George Miller
2205 Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515

Dear Congressman Miller,

I am writing to thank you for your sponsorship of HR 1738, the End Institutionalized Abuse Against Children Act of 2005, and to express my strong support for this bill.

I am a survivor of a program called ______, which employed coercive thought reform techniques. Coercive behavior modification is nothing but abuse and brainwashing. My experience was traumatic. I would like to see such abuses end. I think if American parents truly understood what such programs entail, they would be much less likely to turn their children over to the abusers.

I see HR 1738 as a good start toward reining in these programs, and raising public awareness about them. I enthusiastically support HR 1738. Thank you for your work with this bill and this important, under-publicized issue.

Sincerely,
 
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The Honorable Henry Hyde
2110 Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, DC 20515

Dear Congressman Hyde,

I am writing to urge you to schedule hearings on HR 1738, the End Institutionalized Abuse Against Children Act of 2005, and to express my strong support for this bill. Because many of the residential behavior modification programs for teens are situated in foreign countries, though they are administered by U.S.-based entities, I believe this issue falls under the jurisdiction of your committee.
 
I am a survivor of a program called _____, which employed coercive thought reform techniques. Coercive behavior modification is nothing but abuse and brainwashing. My experience was traumatic. I would like to see such abuses end. I think if American parents truly understood what such programs entail, they would be much less likely to turn their children over to the abusers.

I see HR 1738 as a good start toward reining in these programs, and raising public awareness about them. I enthusiastically support HR 1738. Please hold hearings on this important bill, and please help secure its passage.

Sincerely,

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The Honorable John Boehner
1011 Longworth H.O.B.
Washington, DC 20515

Dear Congressman Boehner,

I am writing to urge you to schedule hearings on HR 1738, the End Institutionalized Abuse Against Children Act of 2005, and to express my strong support for this bill.
 
I am a survivor of a program called ______, which employed coercive thought reform techniques. Coercive behavior modification is nothing but abuse and brainwashing. My experience was traumatic. I would like to see such abuses end. I think if American parents truly understood what such programs entail, they would be much less likely to turn their children over to the abusers.

I see HR 1738 as a good start toward reining in these programs, and raising public awareness about them. I enthusiastically support HR 1738. Please hold hearings on this important bill, and please help secure its passage.

Sincerely,
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« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2005, 08:30:00 PM »
People are sick of kids running around, doing drugs, and being a burden on society? Haha. I'm not gonna lie, us "kids" are pretty sick of you moron adults ruining this country for us. Good thing we have idiots like you trashing this place so we can have something nice to be passe down to us.
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« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2005, 08:31:00 PM »
People are sick of kids running around, doing drugs, and being a burden on society? Haha. I'm not gonna lie, us "kids" are pretty sick of you moron adults ruining this country for us. Good thing we have idiots like you trashing this place so we can have something nice to be passed down to us.
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« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2005, 08:46:00 PM »
Thanks for letting us parents and kids who have benefited from these program know that you're trying to use legislation to attack these very schools that have saved our families.

The petition you posted on this thread will give those of us who care about really helping kids in trouble a good source of politicos to send our own stories to---it's a safe bet these legislators wouldn't get the other side of the story from the true believers at this site.

But even aside from our plans to send counter-information to these legislators, don't you people get the sense that the tide is turning against you?  

Parents are being parents again, kids are not being allowed to run amok as they were 10 years ago---and programs to help out-of-control kids who are at risk of throwing the future away are in vogue (think Brat Camp for a pop culture example).

Seriously, my little buddies, sounds like your crusade may be running up against a societal/demographic trend that will swamp the small pseudo-compassion-babble-driven boat you all are riding in.
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« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2005, 10:13:00 PM »
all that the bill is proposing would be checks and balances on these institutions. to not support that would make YOU the unfit guardian.
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« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2005, 10:46:00 PM »
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But even aside from our plans to send counter-information to these legislators, don't you people get the sense that the tide is turning against you?


No. I've gotten the sense consistantly for nearly a decade now that, wherever we are able to discuss these issues openly and freely, you lose. Cause you're wrong. It is just wrong to use strong arm tactics against your own kind and call it love. Toughlove is a hategroup.

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« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2005, 11:49:00 PM »
"No. I've gotten the sense consistantly for nearly a decade now that, wherever we are able to discuss these issues openly and freely, you lose. Cause you're wrong. It is just wrong to use strong arm tactics against your own kind and call it love. Toughlove is a hategroup."

Yes Antigen, that's just precious. But whether or not your characterization of the motivation behind the programs in question is correct (I personally think it's simplistice), it is extraordinary to me that you cannot see that support for parental control over rebellious children is growing in this country.

Guess when there's a Brat Camp or its equivalent in every major city in the country and beyond, you'll catch on to reality (or not).
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« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2005, 04:40:00 AM »
Maybe the kids are getting rebellious because the parenting is getting shittier?
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« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2005, 12:06:00 PM »
or b/c society is throwing all this false morality from the right while society goes to shit.  No one feels the weight of social ills more than kids, IMO, and kids see clearly the hypocrisy.  The worst part about it is kids, esp thos in the suburbs have no outlet toward self-empowerments, presumably a prerequ. to becoming self-actualizing adults.  Discipline (ahrsh punishment in these prison/military camp facilities and sumbission is not useful, for that reason.  Discipling w/o empowerment, that is...

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« Reply #24 on: October 17, 2005, 11:19:00 AM »
sooo- damn near 600  signatures!!!  yay!!
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« Reply #25 on: October 17, 2005, 12:44:00 PM »
that bill is never going to fucking pass. If anyone had any idea about how the legislative process worked you'd shoot yourself right now. Now matter how many people sign a petition to get a bill passed it still won't matter. You have to build alliances with the powerful politicians. You have to know someone there. You have to force that shit down their necks and get them to agree. It's not about the people, it's about politics, and petitions are the least successful method to get your point across. Nice try, but you would be better off giving head to the speaker of the house than sign this petition!
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« Reply #26 on: October 17, 2005, 02:53:00 PM »
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"Nice try, but you would be better off giving head to the speaker of the house than sign this petition!"


Oh yea? Have you gotten quite a few things passed before this way? I volunteer you for the cause, seeing as how you have experience.
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« Reply #27 on: October 17, 2005, 02:58:00 PM »
Whatever, you missed the point. If you want to actually help the bill get passed you are going to have to do more than sign the petition.
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« Reply #28 on: October 18, 2005, 02:31:00 PM »
Of course the bill is not going to fly through into meaningful law first time around. Nobody who's ever opened the opinions section of a decent newspaper believes that. But it will put the issue before the congresscritters.

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it is extraordinary to me that you cannot see that support for parental control over rebellious children is growing in this country.


You should get out more.

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« Reply #29 on: February 21, 2006, 01:57:00 PM »
yes indeed! g
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