More News about Whitmore/Cheryl Sudweeks

[Anonymous]

Co-Owner of Private School Charged With Child Abuse

Jun. 13, 2005

A Utah private school for troubled teens is facing troubles of its own. After a 7 month investigation, its co-owner has been charged with child abuse.

Read Article Here:

http://tv.ksl.com/index.php?nid=5&sid=211898

[Anonymous]

That is NOT what Joyce Harris SAID:

She said Chris posted on fornits and said on the fornits posting that he turned 18.
Chris WAS POSTING ON FORNITS from the Whitmore before he left there....
SHE plainly said he called her in January AFTER he left the Whitmore and that he called from your house and that she returned the call.

Bye the way Mary....you said you would always sign all your postings.
HOW COME YOU DIDN't sign that last posting where you were talking about all this stuff you and MY PEOPLE have dug up on Joyce Harris.
Want to go back and SIGN THAT ONE?

[Anonymous]

NO one said you hacked any computer MARY!!!!!!

But information stolen from my computer and given to you is stolen property.

[Anonymous]

Mary Gentile,

I did not tell lies about the FBI and my computer. And you dare say you don't call people liars?

Joyce

[Anonymous]

reread your post you referenced me to a hacking investigation.

[Anonymous]

Mary, my computer was also hacked around the same time Joyce's was.  There have been reports made of all such activity, as well as the many threats that have come from the Whitmore.  Any information you have from someone's private computer, regardless of how you came into possession of it, if you choose to make that information public, without the consent of the owner, you are opening yourself up for all kinds of trouble.

My question to you is:  What would be the purpose of doing such a thing, especially from a God-fearing person such as yourself?  Is that what you learn in church how to live your life?  You seem to me to use your belief in God only when it suits your purpose or when you don't want to deal with the real issue.

[Anonymous]

I have no knowledge of any hacking and dont agree with that. I have also never received any hacked information from anyone. As for the other part of your question i agree with part of it, normally any situation should be dealt with in prayer and as you see i did not involve myself with ivy ridge however i believe that lines have been crossed here with no accountability and because of that i fear a never ending amount of situations like this one where an adult thinks that it is ok to decide for other peoples kids.  I dont want anything to happen to these kids, joyce said herself she didnt want to talk to me because of chris, well I feel if the adults would have talked maybe all three kids would be home safe.  I do look at peoples moral character when deciding things and although i am no judge, god is, you have to at some point say its not my place to override parents. To me it has become a moral issue and when i felt a threatening type statement issued towards me and my son then i felt prudent to check on who i was dealing with but you dont have to find out about people through illegal means investigators and lawyers can find anything so i dont know why people stoop to illegal measures and i am not part of that and had no knowledge of that until you mentioned it on this forum.  information should always be obtained legally and kids should be left out even ones that are barely 18 they are not making mature decisions and I would never in a million years want to see any of them hurt and not joyces daughter either.  In fact she is younger than the other kids and i hope she knows nothing of any of this.  What i would like to see happen is no one ever get involved with making decisions for other peoples kids and if they think there is a problem call the adults. I have ask for advice from spiritual leaders and they have instructed me to leave it in Gods hands but its hard to do that 100 percent when you feel attacked and lied about. I wish i was placing complete faith in our lord but i am human.

[Anonymous]

On 2005-06-19 13:42:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I have no knowledge of any hacking and dont agree with that. I have also never received any hacked information from anyone. As for the other part of your question i agree with part of it, normally any situation should be dealt with in prayer and as you see i did not involve myself with ivy ridge however i believe that lines have been crossed here with no accountability and because of that i fear a never ending amount of situations like this one where an adult thinks that it is ok to decide for other peoples kids.  I dont want anything to happen to these kids, joyce said herself she didnt want to talk to me because of chris, well I feel if the adults would have talked maybe all three kids would be home safe.  I do look at peoples moral character when deciding things and although i am no judge, god is, you have to at some point say its not my place to override parents. To me it has become a moral issue and when i felt a threatening type statement issued towards me and my son then i felt prudent to check on who i was dealing with but you dont have to find out about people through illegal means investigators and lawyers can find anything so i dont know why people stoop to illegal measures and i am not part of that and had no knowledge of that until you mentioned it on this forum.  information should always be obtained legally and kids should be left out even ones that are barely 18 they are not making mature decisions and I would never in a million years want to see any of them hurt and not joyces daughter either.  In fact she is younger than the other kids and i hope she knows nothing of any of this.  What i would like to see happen is no one ever get involved with making decisions for other peoples kids and if they think there is a problem call the adults. I have ask for advice from spiritual leaders and they have instructed me to leave it in Gods hands but its hard to do that 100 percent when you feel attacked and lied about. I wish i was placing complete faith in our lord but i am human.  "

Did it ever occur to you that maybe God is on the side of the children, not their alleged abusers, these "adults", as you call them, who reportedly spit in children's faces?

I guess not since you appear to have an excuse for everything.

Well guess what Mary?

THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR ABUSE.

None.  Nada.  Zippo.

[Anonymous]

Mrs. Gentile:
Having a problem understanding what anything of a personal nature that involves Mrs. Harris has to do with you, Whitmore and these boys that ran away.
You appear to be very angry with Mrs. Harris, know something about her that you JUDGE to be immoral, not NICE, or something, and have definetly threaten right her to expose it.
DO NOT UNDERSTAND YOUR MOTIVES, or reasoning.
You son most certainly speaks up for you, most certainly knows how to contact Mrs. Harris. You have stated over and over how many attorneys you have at your demand.
You should do the RIGHT thing, and let the attorneys handle any legal issues you have with this woman.
What you are threatened to do, will, probably come right back in your face, and will probably be something you will regret--if you are really a Christian. I can't imagine in spirtual leader advising you to do this.
IF you have one giving this advice, then you need any and everyone on this forum who believe in the real God to be praying for you right now--because you are worshipping a "GOD" that is very very scary.

[Anonymous]

Wow: Using words like GOD, prudent, morals, spiritual leaders and taking it upon herself to do somthing for the welfare of this Mrs. Harris's daughter. This is a frightening soul, who if even given the benefit of the doubt, gives a whole new meaning to the moral majority. Wow is all I can say.

[Anonymous]

YOU LOOK AT PEOPLE'S MORAL CHARACTER?

YOU POSTED BEFORE that you do not judge people, that you leave it in GOD's hands.

WHICH is it???

The Sudweeks have been accused of CHILD MOLESTATION.  HOW DO YOU JUDGE THAT?

[Anonymous]

Perhaps this would be a good time to remind people what the law is in Utah:

UTAH ABUSE AND NEGLECT REPORTING LAW
U.C.A. Section 62A-4-503,62A-3-302

1. Any person, including, but not limited to, any social worker, physician, psychologist, nurse, teacher, or employee, who has a reason to believe that any person has been subject to abuse, neglect, or exploitation, shall immediately notify
the nearest peace officer, law enforcement agency, or protective services agency.

2. Anyone who, in good faith, makes such a report shall be immune from civil liability in connection with the report.  

3. When the initial report is made to the peace officer or law enforcement agency, such officer or agency shall immediately notify the nearest protective services agency and the agency shall initiate protective service procedures as
provided in this chapter.  When the initial report is made to the protective services agency, and it appears that the abuse, neglect, or exploitation has caused serious injury or a serious imposition on the rights of the person, the agency shall immediately notify the local law enforcement agency, which shall initiate an investigation, and in cooperation with the protective services agency, initiate appropriate protective service procedures.

4. Any person required to report a suspected case of abuse, neglect, or exploitation, who willfully fails to do so, is guilty of a class B misdemeanor.

5. Any person who abuses, neglects, or exploits, is guilty of a third degree felony.

[Anonymous]

On 2005-06-19 13:42:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I have no knowledge of any hacking and dont agree with that. I have also never received any hacked information from anyone. As for the other part of your question i agree with part of it, normally any situation should be dealt with in prayer and as you see i did not involve myself with ivy ridge however i believe that lines have been crossed here with no accountability and because of that i fear a never ending amount of situations like this one where an adult thinks that it is ok to decide for other peoples kids.  I dont want anything to happen to these kids, joyce said herself she didnt want to talk to me because of chris, well I feel if the adults would have talked maybe all three kids would be home safe.  I do look at peoples moral character when deciding things and although i am no judge, god is, you have to at some point say its not my place to override parents. To me it has become a moral issue and when i felt a threatening type statement issued towards me and my son then i felt prudent to check on who i was dealing with but you dont have to find out about people through illegal means investigators and lawyers can find anything so i dont know why people stoop to illegal measures and i am not part of that and had no knowledge of that until you mentioned it on this forum.  information should always be obtained legally and kids should be left out even ones that are barely 18 they are not making mature decisions and I would never in a million years want to see any of them hurt and not joyces daughter either.  In fact she is younger than the other kids and i hope she knows nothing of any of this.  What i would like to see happen is no one ever get involved with making decisions for other peoples kids and if they think there is a problem call the adults. I have ask for advice from spiritual leaders and they have instructed me to leave it in Gods hands but its hard to do that 100 percent when you feel attacked and lied about. I wish i was placing complete faith in our lord but i am human.  "

As I stated before, you have a brain, and while you are on this earth we are all held to the law of man.  Joyce Harris broke no law.  She simply gave kids money they were asking for to get them to a safe place.  There is not law against giving kids money. End of story.  

I don't know what you think you know about Joyce Harris, and I really don't care.  That has nothing to do with the fact that Cheryl Sudweeks has been accused of child abuse.  

It seems to me that Cheryl overstepped her bounds with OTHER PEOPLE'S CHILDREN, when she decided to deprive them of their education, proper food and humilitated and abused them.  If you really are concerned about kids, have your investigators look into the abusive programs, most of which are in Utah.  Do something useful for all of these kids that get abused under the guise of helping them, scamming thousands of dollars from unsuspecting and desparate parents.

It seems to me your time would be better served trying to get some sort of justice for these parents and kids, rather than going after a parent of one of the abused.

[Anonymous]

since when are concerts with drugs a safe place?

[Anonymous]

FYI ... there are kids in teen help programs who have access to both OTC and prescribed drugs and are even exposed to other kids who have been in contact with the juvenile justice system because of drug addiction/abuse.  

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