More News about Whitmore/Cheryl Sudweeks

[Anonymous]

Yep, you did.  We all have THOSE in our families. Gotta keep those law schools in business, and kids have to major in SOMETHING, right?

[Anonymous]

Mary. Can you comment on the abused victims, and the witnesses; especially the witnesses who also were forced to participate in the abuse themeselves?

[Anonymous]

no i try to be a responsible person and dont comment on what i dont see. Because i dont want to lie about things i have no idea about i get lied about as in the earlier post.  I wish all those kids well in fact when iwas there i was shocked at how polite and nice all of the kids were.  We were in the pit by the fire and some of them showed such compassion and kindness.  It touched me and then someone goes and prints that i called there parents evil on this site.  Never i think all of the parents love their child as i do mine.  Can you tell me why it is right that people type lies about someone they dont know and fabricate post that dont exist.

[chasingdogma]

I need to step in here and add my two cents to the conversation. I think a lot of people are getting hostile towards my mother for no reason. I also think that a lot of people are falsely quoting me here. My mother and I fight all the time, yes, thats true, but she is always there to help me. Right now, for instance, I just moved into a new apartment and as a courtesy she purchased me new furniture. Sure, money isnt everything... but please dont accuse her of not supporting me.

She feels that the Sudweeks are God's gift to children. She has that right to feel that way. No one has the right to tell her what not to believe in. I can tell you now that no matter what you say she will continue to fully support the Sudweeks. No facts or opinions will persuade her to feel otherwise. The reason I am posting this is because I see posts such as this one....

On 2005-06-15 16:22:00, 007burd wrote:

"Mary you are a crazy, selfish bitch.  I hope you burn in hell for all you have done."

OO7BURD, whoever you are, you are out of line and you are no friend of mine. You are making personal attacks to someone YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW. Your only communication with my mother has been on an internet forum. You need to stop, you only make yourself sound like an ignorant asshole.

Well, thats all I have to say. Hopefully this post will not be the cause more name-calling. Either way, I most likely will not contribute to this forum any further.


~chris

[Anonymous]

well my attorney who is monitoring this site said that i mispspoke it is not slander it is libel because it reaches a larger audience. It is a tort and while it is sometimes said that the person making the libelous statement must have been intentional and malicious, actually it need only be obvious that the statement would do harm or is untrue and since he has all of my post it is very easy to prove untrue.  I am asking for a retraction as instructed by my attorney and if you choose not to correct the lie then we have that in print too.  Thanks to my dear one for protecting me and monitoring this site so closely. I understand libel is much easier to prove so i hope everyone learns from this.  mary

[Anonymous]

chris no foul language it is beneath you, never stoop to that level.

[Anonymous]

Chris, you are correct. No one has the right to call your mother a bitch, or to doom her to hell in their words for voicing her opinion.
Since your mother has repeatedly talked about all the attorneys in your family: it is obvious that you were abused badly at Ivy Ridge. Did your mother use these attorneys, and the medical evidence she talks about to file charges about Ivy Ridge? Did she do anything to try and close this facility? From her postings, it is a wonder that she even believed this student who let her know you were being abused at Ivy Ridge. It seems like once she makes a decision, like placing you at Ivy Ridge; that she becomes a believer in what she had done, and is not open to any opinions to the contrary. Thank goodness she believed this student and got you out of there. And thank goodness the Sudweeks did not target you for abuse at Whitmore.

[Anonymous]

actually chris i would always consider proven facts as you know had i not gotten married i would have been a lawyer myself.  The problem is i cant believe people who will lie abiut me.  Not to lump everyone into that category there have many many people on here that ifind credable, i just dont know who they are. As for ivy ridge they werent going to release him when i called but they got a call from the press and were told they would be there with the fbi in 30 minutes if he was not released.  Needless to say they threw him out the front door with a trash bag and ive never heard from them again.

[Anonymous]

I wanted chris to move on and forget about ivy ridge he wasnt there long at all and i had kids saying it was the best thing that ever happened to them so no i didnt go after them.  The reason i am involved in this is because my son was threatened by an adult who had no right to be talking to him. I have a message on my voicemail before he turned 18 so she can say whatever she wants and then when i wanted to resolve the situation and try to get all of the kids home safe she refused my call.  I can only suumize that she feels she is god and knows best.  So when you threaten my son i act although i will say never in my wildest dreams did i think my peoole would of dug up what they did.  It will come out and its kinda sad really because had she not threatened my son it could have all remained skeletons.

[Anonymous]

Mary, first of all, I don't think you can speak to what someone else feels.
Second, to dig up or try to find something, in retaliation, seems like a form of blackmail to me.
Or threat.  Do two wrongs make a right?  I'm sure, in all your Christian learning, you would most certainly been taught that.  Does it not put you on the same level as those whose behavior you are condeming?  And if information comes to you via someone else, why would you stoop so low as to give it any credence at all?  You just posted a message to your son not to use foul language, not to stoop to that level.  Are you just preaching and not practicing what you preach?  Such double-standards don't make you very credible

From the way you post, you seem very self-righteous, skirting around anything you don't want to answer or consider. You really don't seem to want to validate the experiences of the kids abused at Whitmore.  You know that saying "Don't confuse me with the facts, I've already made up my mind," well, that seems to describe your attitude perfectly.

By the way, ask all those attorneys in your family
about what it takes to prove slander.  I think, you only have half of the information you need concerning the law in this area.  For some reason, that doesn't surprise me.

[Anonymous]

Mary, you probably need to stop issuing threats on an open forum. And people do record calls, and do keep telphone records, and records of other mediums too, you know. You have posted before about "skeltons," and threats, and all this TELEPHONING that you keep talking about is always generated from your end and your son's end.
Perhaps I, Joyce Harris did not want to talk to you on the telephone, and considered a MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT CALL to be inappropriate, threatening, and was honoring your son's request not to speak to you.
Chris Gentile called me, Joyce Harris at Cheryl Sudweeks request in January 2005. Chris was purposely told I had to dial him back, in order to activate my recorder. So telephone records will reflect a call from Chris Gentile- and a return call from Joyce Harris.
So do whatever you wish Mrs. Gentile, from your little "digging" expedition; but you may want  to be sure that it is not information from any computer hacking that was investigated by the FBI Forensic Unit in the San Antonio Office--perhaps one of your many many attorneys can chat with you about that.
No threats have every been made by me towards Chris Gentile, of any kind. Until he called me when he was helping Alex Nichols to run away--I had not spoken to him since January 2005.
I did not speak to him again, until he called me on June 7, 2005 about the three Whitmore boys who he reported were being abused and were in hiding at Anna's. I do not know who your are referring to when you say "MY PEOPLE" dug up information,but you may be playing a dangerous, and illegal game Mrs. Gentile.
 Joyce Harris

[Joyce Harris]

Mrs. Gentile

I do not bother my attorney on Sundays.

But he will be reading your post tomorrow morning.

I consider your posting to be a form of blackmail. But, I don't know about legal things.
But you accused me of "threatning" your son.
I don't know what you mean by that--

Chris Gentile is 18 years old.  He should be able to confront me himself, if he feels I have done any such thing to him. I feel that I most certainly have not.

Your also stated that your intend to expose some "sad skeltons" that "YOUR PEOPLE have dug up on me."   That in itself is a threat to me, my well-being and could seemingly cause damage to my family, my reputation and to my minor daughter.
I do believe you have gone way to far.

YOU though called my home last weekend at 11:18 PM and spoke to my husband.  This call was made at an inappropriate time,  I had no reason to speak to you, and Chris had asked me to NOT speak to you if you called my home--and I honored is request.  

Joyce Harris

And I do not know of anything that I have ever done to you on any level.

The only contact I have ever had with you was to return a disconnected phone call to your house, to your son who I do believe at the time was 18 years old, and probably had the right to talk on the telephone.  He had posted on fornits that he had turned 18 while still at the Whitmore in December 2004.

Joyce Harris

Joyc

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On 2005-06-19 08:05:00, Anonymous wrote:

"well my attorney who is monitoring this site said that i mispspoke it is not slander it is libel because it reaches a larger audience. It is a tort and while it is sometimes said that the person making the libelous statement must have been intentional and malicious, actually it need only be obvious that the statement would do harm or is untrue and since he has all of my post it is very easy to prove untrue.  I am asking for a retraction as instructed by my attorney and if you choose not to correct the lie then we have that in print too.  Thanks to my dear one for protecting me and monitoring this site so closely. I understand libel is much easier to prove so i hope everyone learns from this.  mary"

Damn, lady.  Shut the fuck up already.  You sound like a complete fucking MORON.  

You're not going to sue anybody over anything, so shut your blowhole.

No wonder your son got so fucked up.  If I was forced to interact with you, I'd probably be mainlining smack to take the edge off.

You are ONE TEDIOUS FUCKING DRIBBLER.

[Anonymous]

check with your attorney joyce the truth is never illegal.  By the way no my son was not 18 in dec.  Sorry you feel 11 was to late to call but some of us weren't sleeping with children missing and in danger.  Perhaps had you taken the call you could have done something to help the situation after all isnt the safety of children first and foremost.

[Anonymous]

joyce by the way chris wasnt even at whitmore in january and stop telling lies about the fbi and hacking because i dont even know how to hack but you wouldnt possibly have been doing anything on a computer that would break privacy laws would you??? just curious?