Paradise Cove success story

[Anonymous]

Chris was in freedom at Le Tiara after he had gotten dropped. Tau was our father until he was fired for throwing Fred into the creek we bathed in. We all had boils It's hard for me to remember back that far but I seem to remember something like on his cheek.  
I was there in freedom with Chris Landre also. Can anyone remember the last name of that Justin kid from Alaska? The one that went insane and was left in isolation for several months talking to poeple that were'nt there and doing headcounts by himself. I was in wisdom when Clay Bowman went off the deep end. I was there when Sergio ratted out our group for escape plans to duane lee. Sergio was not sent to iso. for run plans he was only given worksheets for that. He went there often however but usually for refusing. Does anyone remember Adriano? I wonder how the program thought they could help him. I think they were more concerned with helping his mother out of 1000's of dollars. Does anyone remember Jingle Bells being sung in Le Tiarra Iso?

[Anonymous]

Juliette Driscoll is an accomplice to murder and should be behind bars.  

Juliette, what are you thankful for today?  That you're alive and you can see?

You will be haunted for the rest of your life.

[Anonymous]

people dont realize that you will go to a place far worse than samoa for a lot longer if you kill."
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Are you talking about hell or prison? Because prison  would be like a five star hotel compared to Samoa. ::

[Anonymous]

You better believe that Chriss will be in hell in State Prison and will prefer to be in Samoa!!!!HE had NO excuse for killing his Mother and blinding his father AND hurting his sister!!!!

He is a Killer and Juliette is an Acomplice to murder.  She deserves to be locked away for the rest of her life.

[Anonymous]

I'm not excusing his actions if he did kill his mother. I'm not convicting him because I was'nt there. He is on trial but other than by you he has not been found guilty yet. Should he be found guilty then I think he deserves whatever sentence he gets. It's not up to me.

As far as Samoa goes I can understand him possibly harboring resentment towards his parents for sending him to such a messed up place. I don't think that would in any way justify murder at all. But I could see him being resentful easily.  

And BTW FYI the limbo program and Le tiarra make american prison look like a five star resort.
They have decent food and running water. Medical treatment personal educated beyond high school. A bed. They don't usually restrain you unless you are really physically out of control. Many prisons have educational programs allowing inmates to take real accredited course and earn real diplomas. Something Browning Academy cannot boast.

[Anonymous]

Hey does anyone remember when Ross Nagler got his nose broken when Faragi (FRANK) the staff kicked him in the face? Or what about when Stone hit Andy in the back of the head with a rock and split his head open? They fired stone but then re-hired him like a month later because his uncle was the Maatai (chief) of the village that the program rented its land from.

[Anonymous]

Does anyone remember when we couldn't shower for two weeks at Le Tiarra cuz the water stopped working? How about when we had to manually flush the toilets with a bucket of water? We were'nt allowed to flush until at least 10 people had done a #2 any sooner and it was "manipulation" and you were given a consequence fo asking.

[Anonymous]

I am not going to debate Samoa with you because for each person with an abuse story, there is someone with a success story.

I am happy that you do agree that IF Chriss is guilty, Samoa is NOT a reason for murder and he should suffer whatever penalty the jury and judge say.

Thank you for acknowledging that MURDER is wrong no matter what.

[Anonymous]

The people in Mew Orleans, Alabama and Mississippi and Florida couldn't shower for longer than that and many still do not have any assistance.  Is that abuse??? No, it is just life.

Try living in Cuba and then tell me about abuse.

[Anonymous]

Try eating food that has been stamped grade C and living in unsanitary conditions with scabies and whatnot for two years. The people in New Orleans went without showers because of a natural disaster. We went without showers because of pure negligence. Hardly the same thing. Furthermore since the cost of running their operation in Samoa was so inexpensive due to the minimal quality of food obtained and the inexpensive staff labor: You would think that they would have decreased their fees making the program affordable to more teens needing help. The $2'000 dollar per month tuition of one student just about covers the amount of rice they purchase for the entire facility for a month. Mix in some grade C lamb "meat"(actually fat and byproduct) Then throw a couple of $35 dollar per week untrained staff salaries. Well the numbers just don't add up. They are a business and I can understand a need to make a profit after it's all said and done but my oh my 400 kids at $2500 per month is $1,000,000.00 Giving them the benefit of the doubt maybe ,maybe $10 to $15k went towards running the facility. I mean food, staff the whole 10 yards. The rest is divided up between the program director and WWASP. But no they deserve that money and no your child doesn't deserve sandals for 6 months or running water or sanitary conditions or nutritiously sound food.

[Anonymous]

Try living in Cuba and then tell me about abuse."
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 Try living in Samoa and more specifically Le Tiarra or being on the limbo program.  Cuba would be a cake walk. I have several good friends from Cuba.

[Anonymous]

What's the status of this case?  When it's going to trial?  And who is Julliette?

[Anonymous]

On 2005-11-24 11:27:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Chris was in freedom at Le Tiara after he had gotten dropped. Tau was our father until he was fired for throwing Fred into the creek we bathed in. We all had boils It's hard for me to remember back that far but I seem to remember something like on his cheek.  

I was there in freedom with Chris Landre also. Can anyone remember the last name of that Justin kid from Alaska? The one that went insane and was left in isolation for several months talking to poeple that were'nt there and doing headcounts by himself. I was in wisdom when Clay Bowman went off the deep end. I was there when Sergio ratted out our group for escape plans to duane lee. Sergio was not sent to iso. for run plans he was only given worksheets for that. He went there often however but usually for refusing. Does anyone remember Adriano? I wonder how the program thought they could help him. I think they were more concerned with helping his mother out of 1000's of dollars. Does anyone remember Jingle Bells being sung in Le Tiarra Iso? "

Now why would Chris Landre kill himself?

[Anonymous]

On 2005-11-26 14:46:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2005-11-24 11:27:00, Anonymous wrote:


"Chris was in freedom at Le Tiara after he had gotten dropped. Tau was our father until he was fired for throwing Fred into the creek we bathed in. We all had boils It's hard for me to remember back that far but I seem to remember something like on his cheek.  


I was there in freedom with Chris Landre also. Can anyone remember the last name of that Justin kid from Alaska? The one that went insane and was left in isolation for several months talking to poeple that were'nt there and doing headcounts by himself. I was in wisdom when Clay Bowman went off the deep end. I was there when Sergio ratted out our group for escape plans to duane lee. Sergio was not sent to iso. for run plans he was only given worksheets for that. He went there often however but usually for refusing. Does anyone remember Adriano? I wonder how the program thought they could help him. I think they were more concerned with helping his mother out of 1000's of dollars. Does anyone remember Jingle Bells being sung in Le Tiarra Iso? "

Now why would Chris Landre kill himself?"

Or that other kid, from El Paso who shot himself, Corey Murphy?

[Anonymous]

I knew both Chris Landre and Corey Murphy very well. Landre was only in the program for around 6 months 4 of which he spent in freedom family at Le Tiarra before heading to the beach.

I was in Le Tiarra with Corey Murphy as well as on Sinalele Beach and then in Montana at SCL.   They were both great guys I never expected either of them to kill themselves.  I am saddened to see Chris's parents especially forever stuck in a " what if" frame of mind "what if" we had left him in the program longer maybe he'd still be here. I say "what if" both of these troubled young men had received quality help at the hands of licensed professionals instead of being institutionalized in a facility run by a corrupt money hungry corporation.  They might still be alive.

I think it's safe to say that obviously had issues that were not dealt with in Chris's 6 month stay or Corey's THREE PLUS years in the program.