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« Reply #75 on: June 20, 2005, 11:09:00 PM »
To Anon who was at PC with Chris:  

You don't know if Chris was abused because you don't know what abuse is.

Whether a kid is physically, mentally, emotionally, intellectually or spiritually abused ... it's still called A B U S E.

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« Reply #76 on: June 21, 2005, 08:53:00 AM »
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" I said that Chriss was not abused.  He was not out of control while there and was not abused there.
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once again, how come you are the ONLY person claiming that chriss was never abused?
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« Reply #77 on: June 21, 2005, 09:08:00 AM »
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"I am, but no one wants to answer my question. Why.  Is there no answer or just no good answer? Asshole, I was there with Chriss!"


i can tell you that the cops are saying it was because he hated them and for the money. IF this is all true, i lean more toward the "he hated them" theory.  yes, chriss placed a lot of importance on money, but the truth of the matter is, is that he got, for the most part, whatever he wanted.  also chriss actually did have his own ideas on what he wanted to do...chriss' anger ran deep...but really only chriss knows why, i don't think anyone has actually been able to talk to him since march.
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« Reply #78 on: June 21, 2005, 10:11:00 AM »
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How could anyone not feel bad for someone who is murdered. The mother of a son and daughter. I had previously asked and NEVER got an answer.


Simple sent him there, thus compounding the surrent culture of apprent abandoning their kids to people that hurt them in the name of helping them. Its not what they did, but the president it set, its ok to send your kid off, its ok to have them abused, its ok because yoru going to "fix" them. It has nothing to do with this guys, who seems to be a not very nice person, but it has to do with what they said with their actions. "We give up, we pass you off, your not important."
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« Reply #79 on: June 21, 2005, 01:03:00 PM »
first i would like to say that there is an american justice system.  In that system the accused is just that till proven guilty in a court of law beyond resonable doubt.  

In this case, as to chris's involvement with the murder of his mother and the maiming of his father I see only one fact.  He knew garreth kopp.  Garreth Kopp along with most (i say most but not all) of chris's firends were rather shaddy and dubious characters.  they participated in petty crime that is generally accepted in a vice city like miami.  Chris's parents did send him to somoa, what went on there is a matter of fact for the courts to determine and for a few to know the truth. chris's parents also had gobs of cash. other than these apparent facts I don't see a real motive, I don't see any method to this attack (which is concordant with chris's mentality), I dont' see a case......However mine is just an opinion.

To respond to various off the handle accusations made by some rather rude people that should try and show they got a pair by revealing their identities (i am calling you out bitches).  I feel that throwing insults (shit slinging) and making very character damaging remarks about person(s) involvement in this tragedy are counter productive.  

If you have anything to contribute to the group.  Information that can help this case or that can damage it please do announce it.  For example, I know that one of Chris's friends had been burglarizing my house as it was an easy mark, that i had a cannon camera (value 550$), some leather jackets and few other trinkets taken.  If anyone else experienced this it may contribute to a history of KOPP potentially acting independently and being a recurrent B&E criminal.  Or maybe he acted under instruction.  If you know something speak up....you can help either side or sit back and let what many feel to be an innocent man be convicted of a crime he did not commit.
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« Reply #80 on: June 21, 2005, 03:41:00 PM »
I was in Paradise cove and remember skills, but what was death skills?
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« Reply #81 on: June 21, 2005, 06:10:00 PM »
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"first i would like to say that there is an american justice system.  In that system the accused is just that till proven guilty in a court of law beyond resonable doubt.  



In this case, as to chris's involvement with the murder of his mother and the maiming of his father I see only one fact.  He knew garreth kopp.  Garreth Kopp along with most (i say most but not all) of chris's firends were rather shaddy and dubious characters.  they participated in petty crime that is generally accepted in a vice city like miami.  Chris's parents did send him to somoa, what went on there is a matter of fact for the courts to determine and for a few to know the truth. chris's parents also had gobs of cash. other than these apparent facts I don't see a real motive, I don't see any method to this attack (which is concordant with chris's mentality), I dont' see a case......However mine is just an opinion.



To respond to various off the handle accusations made by some rather rude people that should try and show they got a pair by revealing their identities (i am calling you out bitches).  I feel that throwing insults (shit slinging) and making very character damaging remarks about person(s) involvement in this tragedy are counter productive.  



If you have anything to contribute to the group.  Information that can help this case or that can damage it please do announce it.  For example, I know that one of Chris's friends had been burglarizing my house as it was an easy mark, that i had a cannon camera (value 550$), some leather jackets and few other trinkets taken.  If anyone else experienced this it may contribute to a history of KOPP potentially acting independently and being a recurrent B&E criminal.  Or maybe he acted under instruction.  If you know something speak up....you can help either side or sit back and let what many feel to be an innocent man be convicted of a crime he did not commit."


Well said!  I don't know Chris but even if he had "issues", that doesn't mean the guy had anything to do with some plan to murder his parents .. especially if the only proof is what is being alleged by the person arrested for the crime.

In order to prove his guilt, the prosecution is gonna need cold, hard evidence ... not heresay from a girlfriend or the trigger man.

Hope Chris has an excellent defense attorney and gets a fair trial.  Seems like he has already been convicted in the court of public opinion which is a real shame.
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« Reply #82 on: June 22, 2005, 08:55:00 AM »
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In order to prove his guilt, the prosecution is gonna need cold, hard evidence ... not heresay from a girlfriend or the trigger man.



Hope Chris has an excellent defense attorney and gets a fair trial.  Seems like he has already been convicted in the court of public opinion which is a real shame.











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all they have is the heresay of a triggerman...
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« Reply #83 on: June 22, 2005, 09:04:00 AM »
Hearsay is inadmisable in a court of law, and any compadent lawyer could get it tossed out, the issue is there is a exception for hearsay against intrest, and anything the triggerman has to say would be against intrest.
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« Reply #84 on: June 22, 2005, 09:28:00 AM »
the only thing the triggerman has to offer is a "he said so."  nothing else
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« Reply #85 on: June 22, 2005, 09:27:00 PM »
I do not know how everyone is so sure Chriss had nothing to do with this.  You saw the article and what his "girlfriend" had to say.  Why would she say those things?  I don't know if some of you even know him.

Dude, HE IS GUILTY and I KNOW and so does >>>>>>>>>>>>>
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« Reply #86 on: June 22, 2005, 11:00:00 PM »
Well that's it, debates over. We heard it straight from a anon on a message board. Case closed.  :roll:
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« Reply #87 on: June 23, 2005, 08:56:00 AM »
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On 2005-06-22 18:27:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I do not know how everyone is so sure Chriss had nothing to do with this.  You saw the article and what his "girlfriend" had to say.  Why would she say those things?  I don't know if some of you even know him.



Dude, HE IS GUILTY and I KNOW and so does >>>>>>>>>>>>>"


once again, don't believe everything you read in the damn newspaper...
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« Reply #88 on: June 23, 2005, 05:53:00 PM »
I don't know what to think about the kid's involvement. I'm just glad that a couple of his friends have been able to connect w/ each other. Even if he's guilty as hell (especially if he is) he'll need the support of good friends right about now.

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« Reply #89 on: June 23, 2005, 06:25:00 PM »
If he is guilty, he does not need support.  He needs to BURN IN HELL!
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