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« Reply #165 on: July 10, 2005, 07:21:00 PM »
Was this 12 year old boy the one referred to as " a student at whitmore"?
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« Reply #166 on: July 10, 2005, 08:20:00 PM »
i think there was another student...a girl.
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« Reply #167 on: July 10, 2005, 08:38:00 PM »
I cannot believe anyone (parent) would place a 12 year old child with a group of 16 and 17 year old students with issues.  Folks!!...... THAT IS STUPID!!!!!

I know what the next line is.......Cheryl Sudweeks is charged...BLAH, BLAH, BLAH....That may be true...but, putting a child in that situation is crazy AND ABUSIVE!  It sounds like the "Pot/Kettle" thing.  

Don't tell me the parent(s) who put a 12 year old at Whitmore didn't know....The website with the pictures of the students...How many were even close to being 12? GIMME A BREAK!

What behaviors would justify placement of a 12 year old anywhere?  12 YEARS OLD...how many of the posters on this forum have done this or have been the result of this ridiculously poor judgment?
 
Abuse can be a two way street...GET REAL.
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« Reply #168 on: July 10, 2005, 09:10:00 PM »
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What behaviors would justify placement of a 12 year old anywhere? 12 YEARS OLD...how many of the posters on this forum have done this or have been the result of this ridiculously poor judgment?


I've seen plenty of kids 11 - 13yo placed in Straight. And I've heard of kids as young as 7 in some places. Yes, it's rediculously poor judgement. Hard to even fathom, really.

But who made the offer and arrangements? Who got paid to deliver this insane arrangement? Isn't it just incredibly sick to go into the business of fucking w/ other people's kids like this?
 

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« Reply #169 on: July 10, 2005, 09:37:00 PM »
Antigen said:  
"Isn't it just incredibly sick to go into the business of fucking w/ other people's kids like this?"

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YES..BUT, who sends a 12 YEAR OLD CHILD away for a YEAR without careful study and investigation.

It seems to me it is the parent also that is "fucking" with the kids!  Is this not ABUSE? You've been there....let's put the responsibility in the right place.

Based on some people's logic, it is everyone else that is to blame.  Remember when you were a child and someone advised you:  "If someone says to jump off a cliff, will you do that?"

To me, it is the same.  Ridiculous...cruel...neglectful, and abusive!  Not everyone is taking responsibility for their actions and it is the children who suffer!
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« Reply #170 on: July 10, 2005, 09:58:00 PM »
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"I cannot believe anyone (parent) would place a 12 year old child with a group of 16 and 17 year old students with issues.  Folks!!...... THAT IS STUPID!!!!!



I know what the next line is.......Cheryl Sudweeks is charged...BLAH, BLAH, BLAH....That may be true...but, putting a child in that situation is crazy AND ABUSIVE!  It sounds like the "Pot/Kettle" thing.  



Don't tell me the parent(s) who put a 12 year old at Whitmore didn't know....The website with the pictures of the students...How many were even close to being 12? GIMME A BREAK!



What behaviors would justify placement of a 12 year old anywhere?  12 YEARS OLD...how many of the posters on this forum have done this or have been the result of this ridiculously poor judgment?

 

Abuse can be a two way street...GET REAL.

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Before you going blaming the parent, HOLD YOUR HORSES, Anon.  

Are you forgetting this program was referred to the parents by someone who runs a business called PURE and that surely they were aware of the child's age and whether this would be an appropriate placement or not?

Sheesh.  Talk about DEFLECTION.

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« Reply #171 on: July 10, 2005, 10:03:00 PM »
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On 2005-07-10 17:38:00, Anonymous wrote:


What behaviors would justify placement of a 12 year old anywhere? 12 YEARS OLD...how many of the posters on this forum have done this or have been the result of this ridiculously poor judgment?




I've seen plenty of kids 11 - 13yo placed in Straight. And I've heard of kids as young as 7 in some places. Yes, it's rediculously poor judgement. Hard to even fathom, really.



But who made the offer and arrangements? Who got paid to deliver this insane arrangement? Isn't it just incredibly sick to go into the business of fucking w/ other people's kids like this?

 

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Yep, very sick and to think, people actually choose to earn their living this way?

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« Reply #172 on: July 10, 2005, 10:04:00 PM »
Zita, you're a very precocious young lady.

Jk, I know this isn't her. But I don't disagree w/ you at all. That's why I always refer to this industry as the troubled parent industry. I don't think the kids who land up in these places are exceptional. Some have issues going in, others don't, not significantly different from any highschool class anywhere. The sole factor that seperates these unfortunate kids from all the rest in this country is poor judgement on the part of the parents.

But what kind of person capitalizes on that kind of poor judgement? People tend to have very poor judgement when it comes to certain addictive substances, too. But do decent people become crack dealers? What kind of person takes advantage of the poor judgement of others in such a way?

There is a difference between shitty parents and people who take advantage of them. Shitty parents have to live for the rest of their lives w/ the dire consequences of shitty parenting. There are no do overs. People who take advantage of them just take the money and run. Then they turn on the marks like rabid jackals when they start to figure out the scam.

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« Reply #173 on: July 10, 2005, 10:15:00 PM »
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On 2005-07-10 17:38:00, Anonymous wrote:


"I cannot believe anyone (parent) would place a 12 year old child with a group of 16 and 17 year old students with issues.  Folks!!...... THAT IS STUPID!!!!!





I know what the next line is.......Cheryl Sudweeks is charged...BLAH, BLAH, BLAH....That may be true...but, putting a child in that situation is crazy AND ABUSIVE!  It sounds like the "Pot/Kettle" thing.  





Don't tell me the parent(s) who put a 12 year old at Whitmore didn't know....The website with the pictures of the students...How many were even close to being 12? GIMME A BREAK!





What behaviors would justify placement of a 12 year old anywhere?  12 YEARS OLD...how many of the posters on this forum have done this or have been the result of this ridiculously poor judgment?


 


Abuse can be a two way street...GET REAL.


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Before you going blaming the parent, HOLD YOUR HORSES, Anon.  



Are you forgetting this program was referred to the parents by someone who runs a business called PURE and that surely they were aware of the child's age and whether this would be an appropriate placement or not?



Sheesh.  Talk about DEFLECTION.



 :roll: "


Sounds to me like some "SELF"-DEFLECTION going on as well.  must be someone who didn't listen when a child...and, jumped off the cliff.
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« Reply #174 on: July 10, 2005, 11:27:00 PM »
Sue Scheff lied about the ages of the kids at Whitmore, and continued to LIE saying 3 girls ages twelve-thirteen were being enrolled at Whitmore in the month of November 2004. Anyone like to read Ms. Scheff's emails stating this???
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« Reply #175 on: July 10, 2005, 11:36:00 PM »
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"Sue Scheff lied about the ages of the kids at Whitmore, and continued to LIE saying 3 girls ages twelve-thirteen were being enrolled at Whitmore in the month of November 2004. Anyone like to read Ms. Scheff's emails stating this???"

Post them!!  All you have to do is copy and paste to the forum.  You are bluffing!!
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« Reply #176 on: July 10, 2005, 11:36:00 PM »
Doesn't matter if the kid placed at Whitmore was 6 or 18---Cheryl Sudweeks had not right to abuse any kid PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Child Abuse is ILLEGAL!
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« Reply #177 on: July 10, 2005, 11:38:00 PM »
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"Sue Scheff lied about the ages of the kids at Whitmore, and continued to LIE saying 3 girls ages twelve-thirteen were being enrolled at Whitmore in the month of November 2004. Anyone like to read Ms. Scheff's emails stating this???"


Post them!!  All you have to do is copy and paste to the forum.  You are bluffing!!"
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« Reply #178 on: July 11, 2005, 10:44:00 AM »
You guys, this is silly. There's plenty of blame to go around. Which is worse; hiring someone to murder someone or being a paid hit man?

Black markets will always be with us. But they will recede in importance when our public morality is consistent with our private one.


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« Reply #179 on: July 11, 2005, 10:59:00 AM »
12 year old girls should not be with older teens in my opinion, but ask joyce how many programs her daughter had been in before whitmore. Who starts sending such a young child away and for what reason. Z gave lots of reasons as to why. Does anyone know how many times z called cps on her mother?
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