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« on: March 26, 2005, 03:52:00 PM »
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Anonymous
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they started cascade because the feds were after them they surround themselves with people who will lie for them the loyalty crap they claim is just to hold you for their own agenda where are melzer and allgood now. i heard cascade shut down in whitmore california and rudy benz is in georgia cloning all the old crap his new "scam" sorry school is called hidden lake academy in dahlonega,ga. how did melzer retire i bet allgood and him conned someone they were always lying to all.


Deborah
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Hidden Lake Academy
Posted: 2004-07-24 21:21:00  
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I've been posting on the Teen Help forum for a couple of years. I occasionally visit this forum and have suspected that my son was subjected to CEDU techniques, but on some level haven't wanted to deal with the possibility.
Before I'm attacked for being a 'program parent' let me say that I didn't place my son and lost everything I had unsuccessfully fighting to have him removed.

Also, I have seen Hidden Lake loosely associated with CEDU, but never found confirmation of a connection. This is the first time I've seen them mentioned on this forum. I did find websites that listed HLA, along with RMA, BCA, and others as CEDU facilities. I posted those links on the TH forum. Just this week I checked the links and the information linking them to CEDU has been removed from those sites.

Rudy Bentz of course, was the first headmaster there, but had moved on to start another east coast facility before my son arrived. That facility, Academy at Swift River, was soon in trouble with the local authorities for not possessing a license and for allegations of abuse filed by a former employee. I would like to hear why Bentz left HLA if anyone has inside knowledge of that.

HLA appears to be an independent facility, with no stated associations to any particular organization, but as of 2001, they still used some CEDU terms and methods. They had peer groups, raps, reals, fall-outs, bans, restriction. Those are a few of the terms my son used that I can recall. I can't remember him ever mentioning profeets, and I'm not sure what that is. Perhaps they changed the name of that particular practice.

He will be moving near me this fall to attend college. We haven't talked alot about the experience, he'd rather forget it at this point, but I hope to get to ask him to relate more details of his experience. After reading some of the recent posts here, I'm particularly interested to know if his counselors required him to divulge his sexual activity (if there was any) publicly. I know they badgered him into admitting that he had drug problem. And numerous times he was put on restriction without any form of proof, for allegations people made about him in reals. Once he remained on restriction after the girl admitted that she had lied. I can only imagine this was done in case her confession was a lie.

I tend to think that perhaps Bentz was fired after he got the place up and running, but they kept some of the CEDU techniques he'd originated. The owner appears to be more cautious and conservative than some. Anyone have an opinion or knowledge of this?


Anonymous
Unregistered User Hidden Lake Academy
Posted: 2004-07-24 22:21:00  
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 Right now I'm out of energy to write the full deal on CEDU but with propheets they were 24 hour to 3-5 day workshops/raps they were intense, coercive, sessions that really broke you down.

I don't know where bentz is anymore. He was definitely as CEDU-fied as you can get. i did a search and came up with santa fe, nm. don't knowif its accurate.

As far as sexual activity, you would not believe the stuff people had to disclose. Normal (but humilaiting activities) were disclosed (by enormous pressure) in group settings and then you were totally ridiculed by the staff and the bully students. You also had to listen to some pretty far out disclosures about bestiality and other unique activities. If you had a traumatic experience, you were made to feel dirty. If you tried something in the realm of normal teenage activities you were humiliated and called names. If you had ONE boyfriend, you "spread your legs to the world" and some people, I've learned were coerced to confess to activities that didn't happen. (Life was hell if they had the script and you didn't follow it.) One guy had to go to the doc for maleproblem (not an STD) and the family head humiliated him publicly over and over again in the rap. I was appalled. If you go back and work your past the old stuff you will find many descriptions of the CEDU experience from students and staff. Read them. Some posts are abusive and and hate-filled so just disregard those, because there is a lot of value here.

I could be wrong, but Bentz might be in Santa Fe doing God knows what. If your son needs to vent about or close the experience he can come here and do it. He may find a good person to IM stuff. I started at this site 15 years later because I had never previously discussed it--I mean who would understand?

In any event, enjoy your time with him and let him know you are always available for him. Don't blame yourself--the ed con or counselor does good sales spin. If you look at the brochure, it looked good. YOur thinking discipline, structure in a beautiful setting KUMBAYA MY LORD KUMBAYA
But the insulation, the cut off from reality, the breaking down of spirit to never be brought up...the monitored phone calls to mom and dad and their manipultive posts back. School was vocab list and standing around a campfire rubbing sticks. And then, from top down it appears the level of education is not up to snuff, so no real issue was resolved. No, staff got internet degree and were nonaccredited apparently. THeir plan was to teach CEDUOLOGY. Nothing truly therapeutic which is why you see grads standing on the platform with a smile and crashing soonafter, doing worse than they ever done. Its why people who are successful, caring people post about the PTSD and nightmares they suffer from the place. there are mnay people like me who take the CEDU line because its been so conditioned and then watch it unravel. You had to clone to survive being least harassed. It wasn't easy. When was he around?

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 Hidden Lake Academy
Posted: 2004-07-25 09:58:00  
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 Thanks for the reply.
He was there between Nov 2000 and May 2002. Blaming myself is not a problem, as turning one of my children over to strangers would never cross my mind. He knows I fought for him. We were both disappointed that my efforts weren't successful.
Even though he understood what they were doing (manipulation, coercion, brainwashing) and resisted, there is no way someone could live in that 24/7 for 20 months and not be affected. My own opinion is that those who completely 'buy it' are the ones who it appears to work for. Those who continue to resist will have a great deal of confusion to sort out and suppressed anger to vent- because they have to appear to buy it, all the time knowing it's utter bullshit.
As far as him venting. They did a bang-up job on silencing him. He keeps his thoughts and feelings to himself now- a result of the conditioning. He will open up to me when we have been together long enough. It's as if they conditioned him to believe that no one wants to hear what he has to say or what he's feeling. When the time is right I'll introduce him to this site. Perhaps if sees others publicly discussing their experiences, it will encourage him to do the same.
I can imagine that relating one's experience could feel humiliating if the listener has no frame of reference. Who wants to share their most vulverable pain and have it minimized?

I can relate to, "who would understand". People just glass-over when I talk about it. I imagine that they think I'm exaggerating, and that perhaps my son really needed some 'tough love'. You really can't grasp it all unless you've been through it. I appreciate Ginger for providing this venue.

Links to some of my experience:
http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.ph ... 68&forum=9
http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.ph ... 22&forum=9
http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.ph ... 9&start=20

Re Bentz- he was replaced at ASR in Sept 2003:
http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.ph ... 26&forum=9
He started at HLA in 1994:
http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... /np03.html
I can't find anything on him currently.

The links I provided in this thread:
http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.ph ... 49&forum=9
draw a connection between HLA and CEDU. If you follow the link now, you will see that the information that I posted has been removed from the sites.

This article seems to support the notion that HLA was not patterned after CEDU, without of course mentioning the name specifically:
http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... sit01.html
Educational consultants love to compare and categorize schools, and in conversations I have been involved in, Hidden Lake has often been pointed to as an East coast version of some well known West coast schools. (CEDU?) Some even take that further and conclude that Hidden Lake evolved out of the staff and experience of those older schools. (Bentz certainly came from CEDU)Leonard Buccellato is emphatic that Hidden Lake is it's own creation and did not evolve out of another system.

There are, however, some understandable similarities. For example, Hidden Lake and other schools do work with similar types of students. Dr. Buccellato points out that research and experience have shown that any successful school that works with similar students will have to have some similar elements. For example, for kids with these behavior;/emotional problems, two groups a week is not enough and four or five groups a week would be too much. Consequently, to be effective, any school would settle on three groups a week. In addition, culminating workshops are most effective about every three to four months to have maximum impact. So, he concludes, any similarities are surface only, and when you look deeper under the surface at Hidden Lake, you will find significant differences from any other schools.
(So, he changed the frequency of groups and workshops, but what about the content and techniques? That is the question.)

One of the major differences is in program length, which at eighteen months is shorter in duration than some other schools. Dr. Buccellato explained this was planned in order to avoid the program dependency some students have developed in other programs.
(While the length of the program may be shorter than CEDU, their 'guarentee' requires that the teen be placed in a traditional boarding school upon graduation- who they apparently have an agreement with. If the teen reverts to old behaviors they are returned to HLA.)

Therapeutically, the cognitive needs of the child are addressed as well as the emotional growth and development. Another unique feature of Hidden Lake Academy is its emphasis on staff credentials. Counselors hold a minimum of master's degrees in various therapeutic disciplines and/or come to the Academy with solid experience in the field. Teachers hold baccalaureate or graduate degrees and are certified, some in the area of special education. Teachers and counselors work together in teams to implement the insight-oriented curriculum which helps students achieve the highest level of success possible, both academically and emotionally.

After Len and Rudy taking me through the founding and philosophy of the school, I tend to agree: Hidden Lake Academy is unique and it's own creation. It is not a new configuration of another older system. I had a chance to visit with the two students I had referred to the school, and I was pleased with their progress. Good things are happening there. It is a good place for struggling teens.





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« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2005, 04:13:00 PM »
Anonymous
Unregistered User Hidden Lake Academy
Posted: 2004-08-17 18:29:00  
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 bentz came from cedu running springs he is cedu all the way. he is a brainwashed control freak who thinks that because it is good for him it is good for your kid. he was non materialistic but being a puppet of mel wasserman and allgood turned him into a bloodsucker. all those cedu staff have there own cults and they lie when they say they came up with it. they are all scamming together and the "credentials" are so the state will not shut them down and because they have been sued many times for extortion and racketering. mark wasserman is in palm springs with millions mel stole from his friends like michael landon and overprotective parents who let there kids be brainwashed under the guise of making friends. they kids think that because the program works for them it will work for you the staff are all liars who have to lie to keep there jobs and they do what rudy says or they are labeled a disgruntled employee. they are all in denial especially the ones like allgood who ran cascade which shut down when the students figured out the truth. it is practice for allgood to cut and run whenever students leave so he can cover his ass make off with the money.

Anonymous
Unregistered User Hidden Lake Academy
Posted: 2004-10-11 15:46:00  
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 Actually my math was off I was there in March 70 It was a nightmare from day 1, Rudy, Melzer, Allgood, and a few others, names not worth mentioning, they werent as bad as allgood group. I dont see how they got along with it for as long as they did. I would love to know there where abouts today. I know things that would put them away for awhile at least. Or, the very least, cost them some bucks!! Mel wasserman had us down in shopping malls begging for money. If you got an oppty. like that to get off the hill , one would grab it, in a heartbeat. Its a comfort to know now, that I wssnt the only one who encountered all of this crap. Took many years to "undo" it from my life. I even know someone who Killed themeselves, and heard it was from him not being able to cope after leaving CEDU...I am not familiar with hidden lakes/ cascade. Is that where they all ended up going? Where is Mel wasserman? We should all put our stories together for the the past 34 years and I bet we could put an End to them quickly. I could tell you stories that would make your head spin. If any of these molesters/brainwashers/pigs are still alive today, I would appreciate if any one knows there where abouts, if they would reply...thx

From Far Away
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Posted: 2004-10-19 13:21:00  
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Deborah,
Not sure if you are checking this board much anymore. I am a psychologist who worked as an administrator at HLA at one time. I count the experience as one of the most traumatic in my life. Things ended in court and I suffered financial and emotional ruin. I have to be very careful about details, as I'm bound by a gag-order of sorts, but I can answer general questions. I know why Rudy left HLA, among other things. I am unaware of anything he did wrong at HLA, regardless of his past. His termination was planned long before it happened. Sorry, I can't sign my name here. My financial and even physical safety depend on my anonymity.

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Posted: 2004-10-19 18:09:00  
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Thank you for your courage.

Anonymous
Unregistered User Hidden Lake Academy
Posted: 2004-10-20 12:30:00  
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Feel Free to speak the truth, your rights are protected on this message board. all opinions are welcome and you are not the only victim of rudy benz so fellow victims will stand by you
Your physical and financial safety are fine. Rudy and other cedu clones use threats to coerce staff. the confidentiality clause they coerce you into signing is so they can cover up illegal activity like emotional and physical terrorism. Feel Free to violate it. they violate things whenever they "feel" like it and they always have an excuse usually that you provoked them or they are defending their pride. Do not fear them taking you to court. they threaten to use the legal system to scare you and to make themselves look like the victim. As a former staff who was around rudy benz i can tell you that he will never show up for court or physically attack you, he is a coward. if he tries to affect your employment explain to him that you will sue him for defamation and retaliation by a former employer. have your prospective employers investigate him and they will discover that he is a former cedu child abuser under Michael Allgood who was shut down running cascade school in whitmore,ca. Rudy does not want his past abuses to become public record so he will not despite his threats ever go to court or hurt you. He has made so much money keeping his emotional terrorism school going that it is not worth it for him to terrorize you when he can get paid for it by gullible parents to abuse teens who desperately want to be accepted  

Anonymous
Unregistered User Hidden Lake Academy
Posted: 2004-10-20 18:15:00  
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 DONT BE AFRAID...YOU HAVE ALOT OF PEOPLE INCLUDING MYSELF WHO WOULD BACK YOU, WHO I DONT THINK YOU KNOW, SO SPEAK FREELY, BY READING ALL THESE POSTS THE LAST FEW WEEKS, YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE THAT RUDY, ALLGOOD, CEDU, WASSERMANS WERE ALL MOLESTERS, & ABUSERS. HERE IS A QUOTE THAT I LEARNED AT CEDU....THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE" PRETTY IRONIC HUH? THE MORE WE SHARE, THE MORE OTHERS MAY REALIZE THE SCUM THAT THEY WERE. THX

Anonymous
Unregistered User i m with you
Posted: 2004-10-25 18:11:00  
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 Rudy caught again and this time it aint beating up negros or spreading liver on little boys or believing everything and coercing kids into doing whatever allgood says

this is the last I have heard about Rudy...

ORGANIZATIONAL CHANGES AT ACADEMY AT SWIFT RIVER
(September 18, 2003) John T. Powers, Executive Director, Academy at Swift River, Cummington, MA, 800-258-1770, reports he has conducted intensive self-evaluation over the past three months, and has recently made several important organizational changes. One change has been the elimination of the positions of Headmaster, held by Rudy Bentz, and Training Director, held by Jill Bentz. He expressed gratitude for the meaningful contribution that Rudy and Jill Bentz
have made to ASR over these past five years and wishes them the very best in their future endeavors. A new position, Dean of the Faculty,
has been created to integrate the management focus for both the therapeutic and the academic professionals. It will be held by former ASR Dean of Academics, Peter Stevens, who has keen leadership and administrative abilities. Also significant in this reorganization are the enhanced staffing levels in the lower school segment of ASR, which will result in substantially greater counselor time with students. Powers encourages people to communicate with him about their ideas and concerns regarding this organizational  

Deborah
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 Hidden Lake Academy
Posted: 2004-11-06 13:30:00  
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Far And Away,
I post mostly on the Teen Help forum, but I do check the CEDU forum ocassionaly. I am convinced that Hidden Lake is a CEDU knock off, so reading others experiences of CEDU helps me understand the methods and how they evolved and how they might have affected my son. There are not many speaking specifically about HLA.

Sorry you had a traumatic experience. My involvement with them certainly was a horredous and distressing nightmare. Surreal.

Instant message me if you'd like to chat. I'd particularly be interesed in hearing your perspective on the methodology and your story if your comfortable sharing confidentially.

Anonymous
Unregistered User Hidden Lake Academy
Posted: 2004-11-10 14:36:00  
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 hla is cedu knock off all right that rudy and jill bentz are cedu abusers all the way and whoever said cascade is cultish tell us who your employer and abusive staff was and we can tell you all
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« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2005, 04:37:00 PM »
Anonymous
Unregistered User Hidden Lake Academy
Posted: 2004-12-25 19:46:00  
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 please tell me hla isn't still like everything they are describing. my grandchild was placed there recently. if it is as bad as it was in the 70s how can we get this child out? can you provide any other informatin or head me in another direction? Your help is vital and very much appreciated

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Posted: 2004-12-30 16:21:00  
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On 2004-12-25 19:46:00, Anonymous wrote:

"please tell me hla isn't still like everything they are describing. my grandchild was placed there recently. if it is as bad as it was in the 70s how can we get this child out? can you provide any other informatin or head me in another direction? Your help is vital and very much appreciated"


You might petition the family courts in the child's home jurisdiction for custody or at least for a writ of habeas corpus. Ask around, though. Start your own thread. I know for a fact there are people in these forums who have been in your shoes and who would be glad to share what they've learned.

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Anonymous
Unregistered User i m with you
Posted: 2004-12-31 13:38:00  
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 Rudy is in Santa Fe as a "Consultant". Do a google search. You'll find him. And for the person who was "100%" sure that he was there in the early 70's, he was not. He started at Cedu in 79 or 80. Before that he lived in Los Angeles, before that Western Massachusetts and before that from Pennsylvania where he grew up.

I knew him well in the "pre-Cedu" days.


Anonymous
Unregistered User i m with you
Posted: 2005-01-24 16:06:00  
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 I can't believe it -- Rudy is still doing the devil's bidding. These ed consultants are the worst offenders in my book. They sell lies and misrepresent themselves as experts. The only qualification most of them have is experience working as line staff at an abusive school.

When are people going to start suing these motherfuckers.

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Posted: 2005-01-24 16:34:00  
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 what benz does is fraud and the usual cult posing as school con job taught to him by the synanon racket that molested many and thought they helped everyone . they used us to fuck us up while saying "our program works if you do whatever we say" "we are about making friends"
what benz is is a con man and scam artist who lies because that is what he was taught to do by those cedu originals. whenever they accuse their victims of something they are projecting that means it is them who are guilty of whatever they are saying, whatever they say it is really the other way around and when the heat gets on them they run cause they have criminal pasts they cover up as their leader tells them too. they have conned many with their "i am your friend " crap. they only care about themselves and brainwashing you with their be loyal crap. they have quite a racket and think they are all so loyal. what about those you ruined ? guess there is an excuse for that ? sociopath is what rudy is  

Anonymous
Unregistered User Hidden Lake Academy
Posted: 2005-02-18 10:04:00  
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 I am a graduate of CEDU (RMA) in 92. I worked at Hidden Lake Academy in GA in 97-98 under Rudy and Jill Benz.
I knew Buccalatto ( owner of HLA), he is the guy who sent me to RMA and I don't know what I was thinking going to work for him. It didn't work out. All the staff there were dirty control freaks, with no intent of helping kids- they were there to fill the empty tanks that housed their meaningless and massive egos. I've been long gone, and heard Rudy isn't there too. There were sooooo many dirty staff there, Im surprised it's survived this long

Anonymous
Unregistered User Hidden Lake Academy
Posted: 2005-02-18 17:22:00  
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I think I know you. Welcome to this good site!

iknowcedulies
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Posted: 2005-02-22 14:33:00  
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 all you anonymous former victims as either staff or kid get usernames so you can get private messages.

Anonymous
Unregistered User Hidden Lake Academy
Posted: 2005-03-05 12:30:00  
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 MY BEST ADVICE WOULD BE TO GET THAT KID OUT OF THERE ASAP. I USED TO WORK THERE WHEN IT OPENED AND BELIEVE ME, NOTHING GOOD CAN COME FROM IT...

Dysfunction Junction
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 Hidden Lake Academy
Posted: 2005-03-06 10:29:00  
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On 2005-02-18 10:04:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I am a graduate of CEDU (RMA) in 92. I worked at Hidden Lake Academy in GA in 97-98 under Rudy and Jill Benz.

I knew Buccalatto ( owner of HLA), he is the guy who sent me to RMA and I don't know what I was thinking going to work for him. It didn't work out. All the staff there were dirty control freaks, with no intent of helping kids- they were there to fill the empty tanks that housed their meaningless and massive egos. I've been long gone, and heard Rudy isn't there too. There were sooooo many dirty staff there, Im surprised it's survived this long"

i'm glad to see your post. reading it again, it occurred to me you might be patrick. anyway, i'm not here to guess identities. we all had a fucked-up time there and i guess it's reassuring to me to hear i wasn't the only one who left with scars.

i did hear from some of "my kids" after i had left (as well as some staff), and some of the things they told me were quite disturbing.

it seems that the staff that remained, in order to protect themselves from what apparently is only being legally dealt with now (10 years later) told incredible lies to the kids and to other staffers who were my friends in order to discredit me and statement i had made about them and the program.

for john lang: it bothers me to this day that you were told some ugly lies about me. i have always been hurt and saddened by the situation, and am troubled that i never had a chance to resolve it with you personally. just for the record: i NEVER, EVER made any disparaging remarks about you or told stories "out of class." i heard from one of our former kids that you were manipulated by rudy and others into believing i had made certain statements, which i never did.

i freely admit to torpedo-ing kristen. she was a no-good cocaine addict with really bad personal problems that she callously got me involved in and i have no regrets about outing her.

but let me repeat: NEVER did i make any disparaging remarks about you to anyone, staff or student.

well, i feel a little better just saying it, but i hope that someday you may actually read this and understand what happened. i valued your friendship deeply and hope you are doing well today.
sg


Anonymous
Unregistered User Hidden Lake Academy
Posted: 2005-03-07 06:32:00  
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 Are you saying that you worked at HLA? Or were you a student at HLA? My curiosity is peaked as to who you are, but I seriously doubt that I know you. I've blocked those horrid days out! I wasn't there long.

Dysfunction Junction
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 Hidden Lake Academy
Posted: 2005-03-09 06:23:00  
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i am a former employee. i was there in '94 and '95. were you there at the same time?
i don't blame you for not wanting to remember...


busted
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Posted: 2005-03-09 08:04:00  
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 I was there in 97, spring and summer. I got fired. You were a little before my time. I wondered for a long time after I left what went wrong, then one day I realized that it wasn't me, it was them- I questioned myself for a long time and felt like a failure. It really hurt me.I still have a bad taste in my mouth when I think of those days. Do you live in GA?


Dysfunction Junction
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 Hidden Lake Academy
Posted: 2005-03-09 08:49:00  
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On 2005-03-09 08:04:00, busted wrote:
"I was there in 97, spring and summer. I got fired. You were a little before my time. I wondered for a long time after I left what went wrong, then one day I realized that it wasn't me, it was them- I questioned myself for a long time and felt like a failure. It really hurt me.I still have a bad taste in my mouth when I think of those days. Do you live in GA?"

i live in ny. i can identify with your feelings. the system there just isn't set up to help kids. if that was your goal, you would naturally feel like a failure. it's just something you wouldn't be able to accomplish there.

what were you fired for? who dropped the axe? rudy? len? curious as hell...

Anonymous
Unregistered User Hidden Lake Academy
Posted: 2005-03-09 10:00:00  
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 Rudy was actually very nice to me and stayed out of it, Len was oblivious. Im still not exactly sure what happened. Im a graduate of a cedu school and stepped on a lot of toes. you can email me and we'll talk more...


busted
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Posted: 2005-03-09 10:14:00  
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 The whole experience hardened my heart, I was so niave. I thought I could help kids b/c I went through it too. I thought I would be such an asset, little did I know. The day I left campus for the last time, I questioned the whole world, is everyone as dirty and dishonest? Just thinking of it makes me cringe. It toughened me up though. I don't trust anyone as much as I did there.
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