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« on: March 15, 2005, 12:28:00 PM »
I am LIVID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  What is Utah thinking!?!?  Giving Mark Wardle ANOTHER license to KILL...  Once was not enough?????

http://hslic.utah.gov/db_results.asp?co ... mit=Search

http://www.distant-drums.com/


Please e-mail  Diana Robbins (licensing agent)

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Complain, rant, rave and kick butt to save the next kid in their sights!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2005, 12:55:00 PM »
Same type of program - boot came, same town- Nephi Utah, same executive director....Mark Wardel, same age range and sex of children - boys ages 13-17, different name - Distant Drums. It is truly outrageous.  It's just a different name.  Which child died in this program - I can't remember - was it Aaron, Ian or Tony?   We need to write more letters to the editors of the major papers - deseret news and the salt lake tribune.

Writing to the supervisor of licensing is certainly not going to do the trick. I'd write to her also - but at this point the ONLY thing that's going to help is to write letters to the editors.  Also write letters to the editors of the major newspaper that covers the hometown of the child who died.  

Sample:

It is truly outrageous that the licensing board in Utah has approved the licensing of Distant Drums, another boot camp in Nephi Utah, to Mark Wardel.  A few years ago _________ a _____year old boy died as a result of staff negligence and cruelty in a similar program that was also run by Mark Wardel in Nephi Utah.  It looks like they are trying to sweep this boy's senceless death and all the filth associated with it under the rug just by changing the name of the boot camp.  This is truly outrageous. How many more children must die before the authorities in Utah do something?  Mark Wardel should not be granted another license for another death camp in Nephi Utah. We must remember what happened to _______. (give a one or two sentence summary).  This must never happen again and Mark Wardel must be banned from opperating another boot camp not only in Utah but in the United States.

(this will not be libelous because it is true and his trial was public)
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« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2005, 01:11:00 PM »
Death of Ian August at Skyline Journey in Nephi Utah..


Outdoor Therapy Camp Workers Charged in Hiking Death of Boy

By Michael Janofsky
New York Times


Denver -- Two employees of a wilderness therapy camp in central Utah have been charged with child-abuse homicide in the death of a 14-year-old boy two months ago on a desert hike.

The boy, Ian August of Austin, Tex., was the fifth child to die since 1999 while in the care of such a camp in Utah, a state with some of the most stringent regulations for summer programs for children with psychological, drug or alcohol problems.

Brent G. Berkley, the deputy county attorney in Millard County, Utah, brought charges against Mark Wardle, 47, and Leigh Hale, 24, and the camp that employed them, Skyline Journey of Nephi, after the boy collapsed and died of heat exhaustion in their care.

Mr. Berkley said Ian, at 5-foot-2 and 200 pounds, was in "very poor physical condition" when he entered the program and was ill-equipped for a long desert hike in midday summer heat.

On the hike, Mr. Berkley said, Ian complained of thirst and stopped walking. He was given water, but fell unconscious, prompting Mr. Wardle to call 911 on his cellphone. Because of the remote location of the hike, about 40 miles west of Delta, Utah, and wrong information given to a rescue team, an ambulance did not arrive for two hours.

By then the boy was dead.

Mr. Berkley said that Ms. Hale was a licensed emergency medical technician but that she either did not recognize signs of stress or ignored them.

"It is our intent to show there was a reckless disregard for his symptoms and signs of trouble," he said.

Each worker faces 1 to 15 years in prison and fines of up to $10,000. The company faces a fine of $25,000.

Lee Wardle, the majority owner of Skyline Journey and Mark Wardle's father, declined to discuss the case on the advice of his lawyer. He said the company had been operating for two years, offering "therapy and emotional growth" to troubled teenagers, who generally participate in groups of nine.

Though the outdoor therapy camps have gained in popularity in the last two decades as options for frustrated parents, the camps have come under a cloud for the deaths of nearly three dozen youngsters since 1980.
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« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2005, 01:11:00 PM »
Death of Ian August at Skyline Journey in Nephi Utah..


Outdoor Therapy Camp Workers Charged in Hiking Death of Boy

By Michael Janofsky
New York Times


Denver -- Two employees of a wilderness therapy camp in central Utah have been charged with child-abuse homicide in the death of a 14-year-old boy two months ago on a desert hike.

The boy, Ian August of Austin, Tex., was the fifth child to die since 1999 while in the care of such a camp in Utah, a state with some of the most stringent regulations for summer programs for children with psychological, drug or alcohol problems.

Brent G. Berkley, the deputy county attorney in Millard County, Utah, brought charges against Mark Wardle, 47, and Leigh Hale, 24, and the camp that employed them, Skyline Journey of Nephi, after the boy collapsed and died of heat exhaustion in their care.

Mr. Berkley said Ian, at 5-foot-2 and 200 pounds, was in "very poor physical condition" when he entered the program and was ill-equipped for a long desert hike in midday summer heat.

On the hike, Mr. Berkley said, Ian complained of thirst and stopped walking. He was given water, but fell unconscious, prompting Mr. Wardle to call 911 on his cellphone. Because of the remote location of the hike, about 40 miles west of Delta, Utah, and wrong information given to a rescue team, an ambulance did not arrive for two hours.

By then the boy was dead.

Mr. Berkley said that Ms. Hale was a licensed emergency medical technician but that she either did not recognize signs of stress or ignored them.

"It is our intent to show there was a reckless disregard for his symptoms and signs of trouble," he said.

Each worker faces 1 to 15 years in prison and fines of up to $10,000. The company faces a fine of $25,000.

Lee Wardle, the majority owner of Skyline Journey and Mark Wardle's father, declined to discuss the case on the advice of his lawyer. He said the company had been operating for two years, offering "therapy and emotional growth" to troubled teenagers, who generally participate in groups of nine.

Though the outdoor therapy camps have gained in popularity in the last two decades as options for frustrated parents, the camps have come under a cloud for the deaths of nearly three dozen youngsters since 1980.
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« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2005, 01:56:00 PM »
Sample letter to Debbie Robbins and Ken Stettler

Dear Mr. Stettler and Ms. Robbins:

Human rights activists and others concerned about the welfare of children seeking therapy in Utah have been closely watching the teen industry. I'd like to express my concern over the opening of the Distant Drums wilderness program in Nephi Utah by Mark Wardle.  The death of Ian August was cruel and senseless.  To allow Mr. Wardle to open a similar program under a different name is an outrage. It was a mistake to allow this man to open another similar program in Utah after the recent death of a 14-year old boy that was a direct result of staff negligence and cruelty.  Please remove this license.  It is a slap in the face to the family and to all who continue to be outraged by the senceless death of this child.  

are some links for letters for these important topics

Outrage over opening of Distant Drums by Mark Wardle (after senseless and cruel death of Ian August)
licensing supervisor: Debbie Robbins
[email protected]


Urge Governor to sign bill to license all programs
http://www.utah.gov/governor/contact/html

Back everything up with a letter to these editors
(so millions of people will also read it)

[email protected]

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« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2005, 02:02:00 PM »
So, when did they get approved for teens? Distant Drums was supposed to be a program for 18+.

http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.ph ... 99&forum=9
http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.ph ... 9&start=30

Wonder if he's still employing his infamous 'test' used to flush out 'fakers'?

The 'incestuous' relationships between programs and the state need to end.
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« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2005, 03:52:00 PM »
Our Goal: Emotional Growth for Your Teen
Distant Drums is a licensed, educational and therapeutic outdoor program for teens 13-18 years of age. Through the medium of Native American culture and wilderness training, we help create positive change for students and families in a unique outdoor setting. Our program involves a journey of emotional growth through a non-deprivation teaching environment. The result is youth who have abandoned destructive behaviors and renewed goals and ambitions at the top of the summit. MORE>
 
         If your teen is...                                   As a parent you are...
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Distant Drums is committed to improving our youth and takes this commitment very seriously. Distant Drums also expects the same commitment from our staff. We fully prepare our students to successfully deal with the trials, struggles and challenges that lie ahead in an outdoor program and in society and life. It is important to us not to hand our students answers, but help them find the answers within themselves. Our commitment extends beyond the youth we serve to their families as well. We help build the strength and unity of the family so together you can resist the pressures and trouble you may be faced with in the outside world. MORE>
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« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2005, 07:01:00 PM »
To date, there has been no announcement of Distant Drums taking 13-18 year olds posted at Struggling Teens.

From the DHS site:
Facility: DISTANT DRUMS
Contact: MARK WARDLE, EXEC DIRECTOR Phone: 435 6230548
Mail: PO BOX 96
NEPHI, UT 84648 County: JUAB
License: Type: Initial Begins: 2/22/2005 Ends: 5/31/2005
Service: Outdoor Youth Treatment Specific: YOUTH TX
Capacity: 30 Gender: Ages: 13 THROUGH 17 YEARS
Licensor:  Diana Robbins  

http://www.hslic.utah.gov/db_results.as ... mit=Search

Apparently they were granted a license for kids last month. Also, states that it ends in May. Not sure what that means, unless they are up for a review then. That would be unusual, as the first inspection is not normally due for a year after the initial.
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« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2005, 07:48:00 PM »
I called and spoke to Diana Robbins.  She said that Mark Wardle was given special consideration and that she was not aware of any teens out in the field yet.  However she did say that their adult program had been fairly busy the past few months.  When I asked her why and how Wardle had been relicensed, she stated that his past troubles had been briefly discussed and that he had been able to come into compliance with all requests.
When I was done spouting off, she asked me if the phone call had been therapeutic for me.  I told her I hope when she and Wardle are responsiible for yet another death that therapy would help her.

I wonder what Mark Wardle has on Ken Stettler

Call and talk to Ken Stettler   801-538-4242
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« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2005, 07:55:00 PM »
You wont receive a better responce from Ken Stettler.  He's extremely arrogant and condescending. You need to realize that Debbie's office - the office of licensing these programs is in --NEPHI UTAH - a small little down with maybe one store and one gas station. Debbie is probably friends with Mark Wardle - maybe they go to the same Mormon ward in Nephi Utah.

Kelly Husbands was the supervisor of licensing - he resigned last year after the death of Anson Arnet - now I guess Debbie has taken his place. You should call back and ask her where her office is located and if she has an office address.  I'll bet it's right there in Nephi Utah.  The home of Skyline and now the home of Distant Drums.  

These programs continue to thrive because they provide jobs to the community and ofter there is a personal aliance between opperator and licensing agent.  They know each other, go to church together - something.  I'll bet Debbie is in the same LDS ward as Mark Wardle.  She's definitely on his side and on the side of the program.  

Don't waste your time - blast them with letters to the editor - these really make a difference.  

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« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2005, 09:09:00 PM »
The guy has been cleared to open up another program. He has been exonerated.
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« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2005, 09:36:00 PM »
Yeah, by a Utah licensing agency! That's like saying Fidel Castro got elected!

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« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2005, 09:56:00 PM »
Well, he is gonna be operating in Utah, where would you expect him to be licensed? Mexico? He should be licensed in the state that his program operates in.

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« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2005, 10:14:00 PM »
Damn, I bitch about Florida sometimes but WHAT THE FUCK is wrong with Utah?  Specifically what kind of cult breeding little town is Nephi?  Same shit as Miller Newton, except he ran to different states to start up his special brand of torment.  I mean really people....what the hell is going on out there?  :eek:  

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« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2005, 11:17:00 PM »
Utah certainly doesn't have the market cornered in terms of sadistic behavior, but here's an interesting thread. Scroll down and read about McCotter.

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?So ... =9&start=0
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