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Offline vvigil

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« on: October 21, 2004, 10:21:00 AM »
It's weird to read all this about Rudy. When I was at cedu, he was one of the only staff who was actually nice to me or seemingly so (1991-1993). I'm getting a different perspective and really want to hear more about him. I remember that he had a dark past and never really talked about it (that's ironic considering the amount of self-disclosure we were forced into). Tell me more about him and his wife, Jill. I'm really curious- you've sparked my interest.
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« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2004, 04:12:00 PM »
rudy was a pedophile along with the early cedu abusers led by allgood  and wasserman  melzer and those who did whatever they said.  when caught he tried to run away but allgood and wasserman convinced themselves that having his way with young boys was his right because he was one of them.  cedu is a cult  and they believe that they should have their way all the time regardless of how many kids get gang raped or brainwashed by the abusive followers of allgood.   liver is the least of rudy's vices
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« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2004, 02:06:00 AM »
I think that is bullshit.
Sorry but Rudy was one of the only reasons I stayed. He was a straight shooter and even said on many occasions to my parents that CEDU was not all it was cracked up to be. He had my back endlessly even if his wife made my life a living hell.

Rudy is one of those people who was always on the fringe at CEDU. The reason was that he didn't buy the lie and he was hassled daily by other staffers and wasserman endlessly.

He is a good man and one of two people at CEDU who made me feel like one day I would get out of CEDU and have a real life.
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« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2004, 02:08:00 AM »
Many other staff throw false fronts, for example the RC steve was cool to his kids, but the shit he said to our parents was insane, I know staff that would talk to you about CEDU and say they didnt like it that much and you would agree and then the next day u get slapped with a restriction for being negative. The Staff aren't your friends!

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« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2004, 03:30:00 AM »
I have to disagree.
Jen Poulsen was a friend and so was Rudy. I know how both of them feel about CEDU and they have never claimed to feel any other way. They were both victims of the school. Each to varying degrees.

Rudy was even told at one point to not talk to my parents.

Guess he was getting a little too honest with them.
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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2004, 12:54:00 PM »
Was it okay for Rudy to explicitly describe the things he described to young kids?  

Was it okay to turn a blind eye on how Jill used to grab all the young boy's asses?

Was it right to force a girl to describe how many people she'd given head to in front of all her peers?

He was instrumental in brainwashing so many poor kids at his mercy.

I don't think what he did was right.

Rudy was a pedophilic wierdo and I would never ever want him anywhere around my kids.[ This Message was edited by: Bryan Felsher on 2004-12-06 10:05 ]
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« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2004, 02:58:00 PM »
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On 2004-12-03 23:06:00, gabriellegg wrote:

"I think that is bullshit.

Sorry but Rudy was one of the only reasons I stayed. He was a straight shooter and even said on many occasions to my parents that CEDU was not all it was cracked up to be. He had my back endlessly even if his wife made my life a living hell.



Rudy is one of those people who was always on the fringe at CEDU. The reason was that he didn't buy the lie and he was hassled daily by other staffers and wasserman endlessly.



He is a good man and one of two people at CEDU who made me feel like one day I would get out of CEDU and have a real life."


This is Bullshit!  
"Rudy didn't buy the lie?" Bullshit!!!
Rudy Bentz based his entire life around the
Cedu lie, it's been his bread and butter
for the past 30 years!  Cedu is his whole life!

At Cedu-RS rudy was by far the biggest bully
there. Rudy used to get off on cornering
14 and 15 year old kids while screaming at top
of his lungs and simultaneously spitting in their
faces.

Rudy would single out students (and even new staff members) who he felt were "out of agreement" with the program (ie: they weren't as easy to brainwash), and he would publicly yell at, insult, label, and humiliate these people in front of the whole school.  He would do this at meal times, house around the pit, cleaning crews,
lights out, he couldn't go anywhere without attacking someone.

As for Rudy's raps, they were by far the loudest and most abusive that I experienced.

Rudy was hardly "on the fringe" at cedu.  At Cedu-RS he was the staff "Hard-Ass",or the "Chief Cedu Enforcer" if you will.
The kids at Cedu-RS feared Rudy the most.  
Even the other staff feared Rudy.  Rudy was every where at cedu-rs, nothing went down there without Rudy having a say in it.  

As for Rudy's relationship with the Wassermans...
Rudy had his nose so far up Mel's ass that quite frankly, I can't figure out how he managed to
breathe all of those years!  Rudy has been with
cedu for 30 years!!! Of course he bought the lie!


What planet are you from, Egg?
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« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2004, 10:21:00 PM »
I guess this is directed at me.
I have no idea who you are or what years you attended CEDU-RS. I can only speak of my experience there (grad 89) with Rudy and honestly if it were not for him I probably wouldn't have escaped without massive amounts of emotional damage from the lovely and untrained staff at CEDU-RS.

Maybe I was one of the "favored", it's possible. I actually saw Rudy go head to head with Jill since she liked to use me as her own "emotional punching bag" in raps, on the floor, wherever she could.

I can think of a whole slew of staff who were "worse" than Rudy. How about Dan Earle? How about jill bentz and that shrill voice calling every girl on campus a whore and slut? How about Guy Bonano for Christ Sake???? I could hear him screaming in the kitchen when he was leading a rap on the other side of the property when he wasn't grabing students and airlifting them off the floor.

I am not saying Rudy is a saint. I am only saying that he treated me and my family with a frankness that got him in trouble on many an occasion. I know I was a thorn in the side of CEDU and I know he got tons of shit for backing me....from his wife as well.

I will never forget what happened to me there and some of my only pleasant memories are of Rudy and Jen Poulsen.....

*end rant*

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« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2004, 04:26:00 PM »
Well, at least now you are making a little more sense.  I was at Cedu-rs for all of 1991 & 1/2 of 1992 (I didn't stay to graduate, thank god!).

I believe that it is very possible that you were one of Rudy's favorites, and because of that he was easy on you. Most likely he was attracted to you.  But to the rest of us, RUDY BENZ WAS AN ABUSIVE PIECE OF SHIT! RUDY is a bully, pure and simple.

RUDY treated me like shit for 1 year and 7 months.  He Screamed at me, Labeled Me, Provoked Me, Threatened Me, Lied To My Parents About Me, and Humiliated Me Publicly.  Let me tell you a little story about me and Rudy:

One morning when I was in Discovery, I was reading in the library while refusing a work assignment (I was supposed to be sitting at my table). Rudy came upstairs, screamed at me, and ordered me to go back to my table (in the dining room).  After I told him to "Fuck Off", Rudy grabbed my arm, ripped me out of my chair, and physically tried to force me to go downstairs with him.  After a brief scuffle (we wrestled around the library for a few seconds,) I managed to free my arm from Rudy's grasp after shoving him into a book shelf near the library door.

Mr. Big Bad Enforcer Rudy Benz (who thought he was going to show me who is boss) backed away from me real quick, he looked scared.  Apparantly Rudy never thought about the fact that even though I was only 14 years old, I was as big as him, stronger than him, and there was no fucking way I would let him put his hands on me or push me around!  He also forgot that the rest of the cedu staff were out supervising work crews or teaching "classes"  on the other end of the building.  We were all alone.

Rudy backed away to the office door on the other end of the room, the whole time pointing his finger at me and warning me not to come any closer (to him). I stayed where I was.  Rudy
unlocked the door and opened it, then he stood the doorway and then started yelling again (I figured that Rudy planned to run in the office and slam the door in my face if I rushed him).

Rudy: "GET YOUR ASS BACK DOWN TO YOUR TABLE RIGHT NOW, OR I'LL CALL THE COPS AND HAVE THEM HAUL YOUR ASS AWAY FOR ASSAULTING ME!"

SOS: "GO AHEAD AND CALL THEM, YOU STARTED IT!"

Rudy: "I DIDN'T START SHIT!"

SOS: "FUCK YOU! YOU GRABBED ME AND YOU TRIED TO MAKE ME GO WITH YOU!"

Rudy: "WHO'S GOING TO BELIEVE YOU?  THE COPS KNOW THAT YOU'RE OUT OF CONTROL AND THAT YOU FUCKED UP YOUR LIFE, THAT'S WHY YOU'RE HERE!
YOUR PARENTS THINK YOUR FULL OF SHIT TOO!  NO ONE IS GOING TO BELIEVE YOU OVER ME!  THEY'LL HAUL YOUR ASS TO JUVIE, AND AFTER THAT I'LL SEE TO IT THAT YOU SPEND SOME TIME IN THE PSYCHE WARD IN A FUCKING STAIGHT JACKET STARING AT PADDED WALLS!"

SOS: "GO AHEAD AND SEND ME TO THE FUCKING HOSPITAL, I FUCKING HATE THIS PLACE, I'D RATHER BE THERE ANYWAYS!"

At this point Rudy decided on a softer approach and stopped yelling.

Rudy: "Look, we both know that you really don't want to go to the Hospital.  If you really feel that Cedu can't help you, then fine, I'll call your parents today and reccommend that we transfer you to another school.  We'll get you out of here by tonight, but until then I can't have you wandering around disrupting everything. It's not fair to your peers who want to be here, and are trying to do something with their lives.  Go back to your table and wait for me there, while I work out the details."

SOS: "Fine." (As stupid as I was, I actually believed that Rudy would keep his promise)
I went back to my table.


About an hour later GUY BONNANO
(discovery family head) and my
so-called "BIG BROTHER" Jeff Huber
came over and sat down.

GUY: "I hope you enjoy getting butt-fucked tonight!"

SOS: "What the Fuck are you talking about?  Where's Rudy?"

GUY: "Rudy's on the phone with the sheriff
right now.  He's coming over in about 20 minutes
to take Rudy's statement, then he's gonna haul your ass down to SAN BERNARDINO Juvenile Hall.
It's full of Niggers and Mexicans just waiting for a young-juicy-piece-of-ass like you to come their way.  They've got group cells over there, so I hope you enjoy being butt-fucked!"

SOS: "That's Bullshit! Rudy said he was calling my parents to transfer me to another school."

GUY: "WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE! Do you really think you're going somewhere better than here? This is as good as it gets for you. We talked to your parents, they want nothing to do with you!  The only place you're going after Juvie is lock down at Provo Canyon until you're 18! It's only gonna get a lot worse for you.  You might as well split now while you still can."

SOS: "I don't believe you, I want to talk to my parents!"

GUY: "I DON'T GIVE A SHIT WHAT YOU WANT!  The sheriff will be here any minute, and after that, you're not our problem anymore! And your parents want nothing to do with you! Why don't you leave right now? We won't stop you. Or go ahead and wait for the sheriff, either way you're life is fucked!  Go ahead and leave, We don't care!  You're not our problem anymore!"

SOS: "FINE I WILL, I HOPE YOU ROT IN HELL GUY!"
I got up and ran for the road.

I hitch hiked and got a ride off of the mountain to SAN BERNARDINO.  I spent the night sleeping on the floor in a public bathroon at a park that I found.  The following night I slept in a cemetary. I was really scared and I didn't know what was going to happen to me.  After 2 days I finally called home (in chicago).

Obviously, Cedu had already gotten to my parents.

My mom wouldn't even talk to me,
so I talked to my dad.  Guy Bonnano told
my parents that I just up and split when
I was supposed to be on a work assignment.
No mention of the altercation I had with
Rudy.  Guy told my dad the he was "surprised"
I split because I had been doing well,
and he was right about to take me off
restriction.  I tried to explain to
 my dad what really happened.  
He wouldn't even let me finish.

DAD told me I was "Manipulating" him
again like I had been my entire life, and
that he was sick of it. (My dad never used
that word to decribe my behavior before....
I knew that Cedu had him). Then dear old
dad told me I was lucky that CEDU still
wanted me after all the shit I pulled
there, and that Guy had told him that If I
didn't come back soon he would have to
drop me a peer group.
Then DAD told me not to call him again
until I was back at Cedu, and he hung up
on me. I tried calling back,
but they didn't answer the phone.

Cedu snowed me.  Rudy never had any intention of helping me.  They set this whole thing up so I would run away, and Cedu could once again turn my parents against me. What Could I do? I was fucked.  They "Manipulated" me.  I called the school, told them where I was, and the escort came and took me back to hell.

Gabrielle, I hope that by now you can at least consider the possibility that RUDY is not the man he conned you into believing he was.  At any rate, I'm sure that you can understand why I despise him so.

As for the other staff you mentioned,
GUY BONANNO and JILL BENZ are both fuckeheads, and I have spent a considerable amount of time detailing my experiences with them in previous
posts. I've also written lengthly descriptions about several other abusive ex-cedu staff, including Steve Laird, Patrick Stambusky, & Russ Decker.  You can look them up if you're really interested.












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« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2004, 08:22:00 PM »
Gabrielle was in my peer group before I split,and we both had the same experience with Rudy. For whatever reason, he was totally cool to us. But, SOS, your story is so classicly CEDU about how the staff favored and manipulated students, parents, even eachother to keep the show running their way. They handled my splitting very similarly (without the manhandling), both times, lying to my parents about me and promising me bullshit to get their way. They also got my parents to lie to me, which they had never done before. In fact, the lying didn't start in our family until I went to CEDU.

Other staff members who "favored" me were abusive and sadistic to other kids, so I have to agree with SOS that the problem was systemic, and just because we had an alright experience with one staff member doesn't make it acceptable that the abuse occurred elsewhere.  Many, many people, boys in particular, have complained of Rudy's abusiveness.  Conversely, Jill was tough on the girls...

It doesn't even matter who favored who, the entire system was untherapeutic, unethical, unacademic, and socially crippling for life outside in the real world.
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« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2004, 08:23:00 PM »
Check your PM
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« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2005, 06:52:00 PM »
No doubt that Jill tormented you because Rudy was kind to you.  Jealousy, plain and simple.
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« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2005, 01:10:00 AM »
Fuck Cedu. I was there when i was 14-16 and I'm 23 now so whatever year that was. Man I can't believe theres a forum like this. That school was shit, they tried to get kids to tell on eachother, the stupid workshops, I did everything I could in my 2 years to run that school into the ground, hooked up with girls, smoked, broke into staff car. you name it I did it. fuck that school I'm doing great now in life but it is in no way connected with that hell hole. the poor kids who are there now, the poor kids.............
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« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2005, 08:53:00 PM »
YES THEY ARE ALMOST EXACTLY THE SAME. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THAT WWASP MOVED INTO SOUTH AMERICA TO ALLOW EVEN GREATER ABUSES (AND FAILEED)

OUR DIRECTOR AT BCA WHEN IWAS THERE AS FORMER WWASP AND HE WAS TYRANNY

YES GINGER

WHY CAN'T ANYONE SIMPLY ANSWER A QUESTION?
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« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2005, 08:58:00 PM »
Not sure if anyone is still wondering where Rudy is at.  He's working at Rubin Educational Resources in Santa Fe, N.M.  

http://www.rubinedu.com

MEET THE RUBIN EDUCATIONAL RESOURCES TEAM

Rudy Bentz, Ed.D.
Director of School and Program Development,
Transition Coach

? Over twenty-four years experience in experiential and therapeutic education
? B.A. in Literature
? M.A. in Fine Arts in Creative Writing
? Ed. D. in Educational Leadership
? Developed performing arts program
? Headmaster at two therapeutic boarding schools
?Designed therapeutic programs and in-service trainings
? Developed and facilitated parenting workshops and in-service trainings
? Taught literature, rhetoric, and comparative religion classes
Consultant for individuals, public and private schools, therapeutic boarding schools, and educational and business organizations
? Facilitated board retreats and mediated administrative/staff disputes for businesses, nonprofits, and schools

Funny doesn't mention anything about being an authority on liver.
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