ANOTHER WWASPS FATALITY?

[Aqua Fortis]

::  Hi brown, I got a question for you:
 What is a PC3? Is it some code for something?

Aqua Fortis

[Anonymous]

PC3 is the final Parent-Child Seminar, used by WWASP to re-construct the relationships between the incarcerated child and the rest of the family in any manner they see fit.

[Brown]

Anonymous, you were close, but a little off.

PC3 is when the parents and the child are reunited at the very end of the program.  It is the program graduation.  And during the seminar entire seminar there is almost no intervention from the staff at all.  They just guide the parents and kids as to what to talk about.  The things that the kids and parents talk about is things like what is going to be the kids schedule when the kids go home.

[Anonymous]

What's going to be the kid's "schedule" back home? Why does a kid need a schedule at home?

Probably so that the parents could keep a program-like control over them, by exercising means similar to those used by the program (scheduling daily activities, etc.)

[Brown]

Why do kids need a schedule for when they get home?  When us kids were home originally we had no schedule, and we had no restrictions.  What is wrong with having a little structure.  It kept me out of trouble.  

If you had a kid that came home would you let him just do whatever he wanted to do?  That would just lead him to going over to the same friends that he had before he went to the program.

[Anonymous]

So even after they graduate, kids cannot be trusted and cannot be left unsupervised, even for a minute. Not only that, they need a daily schedule, because if they're be left on their own, they run straight ot the door to their druggie friends, right?

So many excuses for pure torture.

[Anonymous]

And you wonder why so many of these kids, five years on when the brainwashing cracks wide open, kick their parents the hell out of their lives?

 :roll:

[Brown]

No, I didn't mention anything about trust.  I said that at PC3 the parents and kids sit down and together talk about what their schedule is going to be.  When you come from living in a facility where your time is very closely monitored, then to go home, it was confronting to at least have an idea of what I was going to do.  If the graduate doesn't want to have a schedule they don't have to.

[Aqua Fortis]

When you say "confronting" in the previous post, would you consider that as a typo or is it more like a Fruedian Slip?

Also, I have read about how many of the kids that "opt out" at 18 have been in one or more of the wwasp facilities for over 2 years. My point is: These are programs from which kids are supposed to graduate, and when they don't, their families close the door on them. It appears to be a situation where the non-graduate 18 and older kids are left to fend for themselves, often right after leaving the facility that very same day. Example- (Homeless shelters) If I was escorted to one of these programs as a kid at 16 years old, didn't apparently agree with, believe in, or otherwise failed to internalize the program mantras in 2 years, I doubt if I ever would graduate. However, I would also believe that I should NOT be excommunicated from my family and left to fend on my own without even as much as a roof over my head. This reeks of some degree of extortion. How can you justify this Brown? Why are kids shut out of the family if they take their "exit plan"? ::  Please elaborate if at all possible. I am interested to hear your perspective on this little part of this otherwise BIG picture.


Aqua Fortis

[Anonymous]

The Program suggested EXIT plan is really SICK isnt it.

So much for "Whole and Healthy Families"

[Anonymous]

Brown,

The word is contract isnt it?

More control over their lives. To ease back into life as they should have experienced it,not in a overly controlled intsitutionalized enviornment,run by inept jailers.

[Brown]

Your right, the word is contract.  But what the "Contract" says is not controlled by the program.  My contract, the program was mad that I made it the way I did.  You are right, they recommend that when students go home, that they should put restrictions on themselves.  The point of the contract is so that the parents know what to expect of the kid when he or she comes home.  The only people that have any say in what goes into the contract is the student and the parents.

[Honda Rider]

I love the home contract concept!  And if all of you put your WWASP-is-a-cult biases aside you might learn something.  A home contract establishes a set of values for the home and rules for parents and kids to follow.  It is a simple tool for promoting accountability.  WWASP does not dictate what the home contract looks like.  The parents and the kids create it.  The ?Why does a kid need a schedule at home ?? crack had me laughing on the floor.  Maybe your lil-Johnnie doesn?t need one, but mine sure will.

I think this thread is way off-topic.  I thought we were grieving for the parents who lost a child???

[Antigen]

What's the penalty for breaking the contract?

Where powers are assumed which have not been delegated, a nullification of the act is the rightful remedy.
http://laissezfairebooks.com/product.cfm?op=view&pid=FF7485&aid=10247' target='_new'>Thomas Jefferson: Kentucky Resolutions, 1798

[Honda Rider]

There?s no set answer to your question other than, well, I guess it depends on the circumstances.  As our laws are enacted for three basic reasons: to protect an individual from doing harm to themselves, to protect you from being harmed by others, or to protect society?s value system.  Within our laws lie degrees of deviation.  For example, not wearing your helmet does not carry the same punishment as armed robbery.  The home contract establishes the ?laws of the house?.  The home contract rules and punishments are negotiated between the parents and kids until a consensus is reached.  All the home contract does is eliminate ambiguity and makes kids AND parents accountable.