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« Reply #60 on: September 29, 2005, 08:45:00 PM »
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"Are you refering to Jodi Brown, the one who was diabetic? I remember that!"


Yes, that was Jodi. It seemed like she was stuck down in her dorm room for ages before they consented to get her to a doctor, didn't it? I felt really bad for her, and I remember it was one of the few times when I was there that I admitted to myself the school screwed up big time. I was pretty pissed off about it, even though Jodi and I weren't close. Especially because the school kinda dismissed the whole thing and didn't admit that they screwed up.

Man, if I were her parents, I would have been fucking livid.
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« Reply #61 on: September 29, 2005, 09:45:00 PM »
Well that certainly wouldn't be their style to admit they did something wrong.

My favorite thing was when they just sort of took your friends away. Half the time you'd never even see them again. They were always so sneaky about sending kids away, and they'd make sure they did it in a way so that their best friends wouldn't know until they were gone, giving them no chance to say goodbye. I understand not warning the kid you're gonna send them away (hey, you're getting shipped to the hospital, run while you have the chance). But couldn't you at least let the best friends go say goodbye while the kid's sitting in the van with the escorts?

They shipped my best friend off while I was in a workshop. Then they wouldn't let me write to him. I got a letter off on a home visit, but it was too late. He had been killed in a car crash.

Thanks CEDU.
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« Reply #62 on: September 29, 2005, 09:46:00 PM »
By the way, for old school CEDU peeps, workshop = propheet. They changed it in, I don't know...2000? At the same time as when they shortened the program.

What a nice thing to come out to after 12 hours of getting fucked in the mind.
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« Reply #63 on: September 30, 2005, 04:43:00 AM »
I heard that, that they changed them all to workshops. When I was there, we had propheets and workshops. The I&Me and the Summit were counted as workshops. Everything else was a propheet because of their "relevance" to the Khalil Gibran book.
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« Reply #64 on: September 30, 2005, 04:27:00 PM »
On my second visit, my parents actually brought me my own copy of the Khalil Gibran book. I've never wanted to kill people so badly in my life.
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« Reply #65 on: September 30, 2005, 09:47:00 PM »
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"On my second visit, my parents actually brought me my own copy of the Khalil Gibran book. I've never wanted to kill people so badly in my life. "


That was one of the things on the "RMA recommended Christmas list." I remember younger students, their first year of Christmas, would always get the presents that RMA recommended, like compass keychains, and shit like that. Still, Christmas was a pretty amazing sight, when you came out and saw all the fucking presents for all the kids taking up most of the living room. I mean, I've never seen so many presents in all my life! (When I was at RMA we had close to 150-200 students.) That was pretty awesome, regardless of the context of how lousy the school was. Even if you got cheesy gifts, most of which were on the supply list the school was supposed to provide for you anyway, Christmas was pretty fucking sweet. Even the most jaded of kids got happy seeing all of those presents. And I always liked Santa's workshop in the weeks leading up to christmas, too, cause it meant I didn't have to go out and work. I could sit inside and make some crappy book cover out of birch bark, or do scrimshaw on a deer antler instead.  :razz:

Face it, we had it pretty cushy at CEDU and RMA as far as the holidays were concerned. Big time. (Or at least it was like that when I was there.)
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« Reply #66 on: September 30, 2005, 11:46:00 PM »
Glad you had such a cushy experience. I was at Ascent for Thanksgiving and Christmas. I didn't even know what RMA was yet at that point.

We had to "earn" our Christmas, according to the staff. So from the second we got out of the teepees until lunch, we did absolutely nothing but saw wood. Then we made that lovely hike up to NWA and got some tuna melts for lunch. Then we sawed more wood. Around 5:00 or so, Bob Rogers rode into base camp in the bed of Jamie's Dodge Ram all decked out like Santa Clause with a big bag of gifts for the 20-something of us.

Most of it was just food from our parents, but we were only allowed to look at it. Then they packed it up and said we could have it when we graduated.

Never had the pleasure of enjoying a BCA christmas. By the time next Christmas rolled around, Christmas home visits were an automatic challenge+ privilege.
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« Reply #67 on: October 01, 2005, 08:37:00 AM »
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"Glad you had such a cushy experience. I was at Ascent for Thanksgiving and Christmas. I didn't even know what RMA was yet at that point.



We had to "earn" our Christmas, according to the staff. So from the second we got out of the teepees until lunch, we did absolutely nothing but saw wood. Then we made that lovely hike up to NWA and got some tuna melts for lunch. Then we sawed more wood. Around 5:00 or so, Bob Rogers rode into base camp in the bed of Jamie's Dodge Ram all decked out like Santa Clause with a big bag of gifts for the 20-something of us.



Most of it was just food from our parents, but we were only allowed to look at it. Then they packed it up and said we could have it when we graduated.



Never had the pleasure of enjoying a BCA christmas. By the time next Christmas rolled around, Christmas home visits were an automatic challenge+ privilege.  "


Yeah, that sucks. Ascent didn't even exist when I was at RMA, so sorry. I think that's totally wrong what they did to you. I think the Ascent experience in general is totally wrong. I mean, the CEDU/RMA one was too, but we had it cushier than the Ascent folks.
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« Reply #68 on: December 23, 2005, 05:09:00 PM »
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Life is a very wonderful thing.\' said Dr. Branom... \'The processes of life, the make- up of the human organism, who can fully understand these miracles?... What is happening to you now is what should happen to any normal healthy human organism...You are being made sane, you are being made healthy.
     \'That I will not have, \' I said, \'nor can understand at all. What you\'ve been doing is to make me feel very very ill.\'
                         -Anthony Burgess
                      A Clockwork Orange

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« Reply #69 on: December 24, 2005, 02:33:00 PM »
Move on, dude.
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« Reply #70 on: December 24, 2005, 04:21:00 PM »
How many times are idiots going to post that same post. "Get over it, move on". I have moved on, dumbass. I just like posting stories about the gay shit staff pulled. It's a good laugh. And it's entertaining to read other people's stories while I'm stuck in a 3 hour Humanities lecture. So eat a dick  :wave:
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« Reply #71 on: December 25, 2005, 10:15:00 AM »
by writing, I am.


ps. what should I move on from, exactly? I mean wasn't it just a boarding school? or not?[ This Message was edited by: blownawaytheidahoway on 2005-12-26 10:52 ]
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Life is a very wonderful thing.\' said Dr. Branom... \'The processes of life, the make- up of the human organism, who can fully understand these miracles?... What is happening to you now is what should happen to any normal healthy human organism...You are being made sane, you are being made healthy.
     \'That I will not have, \' I said, \'nor can understand at all. What you\'ve been doing is to make me feel very very ill.\'
                         -Anthony Burgess
                      A Clockwork Orange

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« Reply #72 on: January 11, 2006, 04:58:00 AM »
Thanks for this site- it's good to hear that not all of the students who went to RMA got brainwashed. I attended in 1983-84. I wasn't there for long. By the time I left I was on ban from everyone. Literally. No one could talk to me. Except in rap where I was a favorite for the hot seat. LOL! (Good grief, the buzz-words are coming back.)

What boggles me is how easy it was for this school to bilk parents out of such huge sums of money. Before I'd part with that kind of dough, I might ask a few simple questions about the credentials of the people who staff the program. For a long time, I thought my parents were dupes; now I realize that they were simply desperate, and that their desperation prompted them to forgo critical thinking.

And yeah, I remember all the stuff about how if it werent' for RMA we'd all be dead in an urban alley, stuffed into trash cans after we OD'd on bad dope. They were able to pull that crap because so many of us tried to make like we were so 'street'. In fact, the liklihood of an upper middle class rebel ending up as a crack death were fairly remote. Duh!

 I knew that something sinister was going on, and I knew it was a scam, I just didn't know or fully understand the mechanics behind it. Like all cults, there is a grain of truth in what the school promoted- that's how cults sell themselves; not with utter falsity, but with just enough truth to sound credible. And the truth is that I was in sore need of hardcore structure when I was a teenager. Many of these outdoor boot-camp style programs can offer that; it's when they get into the psycho-drama that things can become damaging and abusive. The 'farmhouse Gestalt' techniques for breaking someone down can be remarkably effective if used on consenting idividuals by trained and compassionate professionals. In the hands of amateurs and self-indulgent hippies, they become  sadistic means of doing nothing more than inducing breakdown via nervous exhaustion.alienation and exhaustion is a different thing entirely. There is no excuse for ego-destruction. These are concentration camp techniques.
The one thing that seemed to underscore the entire philosophy behind RMA was a disdain for the individual and a deification of the collective. This kind of psycho-Marxism was the basis for their use of the brainwashing, and as Marxism leads to nihilism, so these techniques lead to psychological destruction. I am glad I got pulled out early.

Bridget
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« Reply #73 on: November 03, 2006, 10:09:56 AM »
So, like I said, it wasn?t until October that I fully understood I was stuck. I endured another search and haircut. I was as mentally flimsy as I would ever be in my life. There were no possessions that I cared about. There were no person?s opinions that mattered to me and my emotions didn?t seem wild with extremes. I was also something else that I only glimpsed bits of in my life: pleased. I was truly proud of myself for completing survival. I was at peace with myself in a way that shown through to people. Um, I think I was truly exhausted too. During the next months whenever there was a spare compliment thrown my way at the end of a rap it usually included getting back to the  ?place I was at? when I came back from the desert. I think a lot of this perspective on my new self that I acquired had to do with being calm; a calmness, not orderliness or organized calmness was with me for my week of work details. In fact, on my first real day back with the Voyageur family that next morning after my return, Caroline informed everyone that I was on bans from Quest down, while it was decided whether or not I would be dropped a peer group. I didn?t care. I really didn?t, because for a brief time there time was standing still. I was going from moment to moment in my zen like calm and almost nothing mattered except those moments. So, whether I was with my original peer group or not just didn?t matter as long as I could eat. At least, that?s how I remember it.

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 At some point during this mini- epoch, the great founder of our school, Mel Wasserman came for a visit. He walked right past me on my work details not even noting me sweating and sawing away. Me, my logs, my horse and my saw. Alone, and half starved I had been re captured by his place, I was dressed like a midget rodeo clown and covered with dust, I could hardly keep my eyes off of the gloss of him and the shiny Jaguar he had popped out of.
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Life is a very wonderful thing.\' said Dr. Branom... \'The processes of life, the make- up of the human organism, who can fully understand these miracles?... What is happening to you now is what should happen to any normal healthy human organism...You are being made sane, you are being made healthy.
     \'That I will not have, \' I said, \'nor can understand at all. What you\'ve been doing is to make me feel very very ill.\'
                         -Anthony Burgess
                      A Clockwork Orange

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What an asshole! & I found me a dead horse, get a stick!
« Reply #74 on: November 17, 2006, 05:59:34 AM »
LOL



http://cedualumni.com/modules.php?op=mo ... &forum=2&3





I'm such an asshole!
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L M MF A O!
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Life is a very wonderful thing.\' said Dr. Branom... \'The processes of life, the make- up of the human organism, who can fully understand these miracles?... What is happening to you now is what should happen to any normal healthy human organism...You are being made sane, you are being made healthy.
     \'That I will not have, \' I said, \'nor can understand at all. What you\'ve been doing is to make me feel very very ill.\'
                         -Anthony Burgess
                      A Clockwork Orange