The funny thing about all of this is the admin is not even a real "survivor". He was a legal adult when he chose to sign himself into treatment, and could have literally walked out the door whenever he wanted. Even better, the US government footed the bill because his parents worked for uncle sam, so his choice to enter treatment was paid for courtesy of the US taxpayer. Somewhere there must be a distinction between who is a survivor and who isn't. Don't people wonder why the admin spends so much time trying to compare AA to programs? That's because in his experience of programs, it's the same as AA, a choice and something adults choose to do on their own free will. In other words, he is desperately trying to convince himself he is a victim of programs and AA because they somehow convinced him he needed treatment when he really did not.
I believe the line of definition for survivor should be cut off once you are a legal adult, and not under court order to stay at a program. If you had the option to leave at will, then you are no longer a victim of programs, you are only a victim of your own bad decision. I think we should have a vote, and banish this admin from the survivor community once and for all. Unless we want to let everyone who ever went to AA or rehab to be able to claim they are a survivor as well. I think we need to keep the term survivor dedicated to those who went to programs as underage youths, and not as adults on their own free will. It's time to consider keeping fornits pure from outside influences and only letting survivors post here. People complain about Whooter, but the ex staffers like troll control also create a lot of problems here by feeding into it. So I submit a plan that we ban everybody who is not a survivor. That means program parents, former program staffers, and people like Pile of Dead kids and Nihanthic. These are the people all the problems come from. Instead of destroying this site with dozens of rules, implement the one and only rule necessary to fix everything, survivors only.