Hey, DB. I get what you are saying about me pointing out specifically the Elan site. I am actually striving for understanding. When I first came to this board 6 years, it was a different entity, more robust and less driven by insincere extremists. Things could get raw, but ideas were debated... I learned a lot checking out different sites, such as Straight, WWASP, CEDU, and the Seed. Elan was a site that I never desired to visit after a few tastes (and never posting.) From the beginning, it seemed that it centered almost entirely around personal attacks and flame wars, so it was not an appealing region. Things have devolved around here in the past four years in general, but Elan always seemed particularly noteworthy from the beginning. I'm actually curious why I feel that way about the Elan site and trying to get a sense of the discretionary culture. I would say that -ESPECIALLY 5-6 years ago - each thread had its own vibe. I probably got the most out of The Seed (which is virtually inactive now) because it explored issues without the personal vendettas. So, I'm just trying to figure out why Elan always left me cold from a socio-curiosity angle. yeah, I know that doesn't make sense. But it's the same as me being fascinated by the CEDU-Straight cultural differences. Obviously, Cedu and Straight used similar methodologies, but seemed to attract a different type of kid. There is a different tenor between the 2 groups. Even in person, I could tell you who went to CEDU and who went to Straight. I don't know anyone personally from Elan like I do from CEDU or Straight, but it definitely has its own distinctive flavor. Just trying to figure out why that is. I've always been interested in group identity.
I am glad Morgan is being helped, I hope by someone discerning.
I believe she did get help and is getting help. As Paul said, man some of us here at Fornits have to take a step back and realize at times we are actually being called on at times, to help people. That is when we should put away are differences and genuinely help.
Whooter as everyone else, expressed advice that could rationally be used, I sincerely doubt Whooter or anyone with different opinions would send a child to a program that would harm them, just to make a buck. Sorry not picking up what you folks are laying down about Whoot, Suck IT or me for that matter.
Suck IT forcasted this disaster long before it happened, anything taken to the extreme will explode.
Samara these folks are not one of us, I know that sounds discriminating (I'm sorry) but their extreme behavior shows their nativity. They are trying to fit in to a society that has to be experienced first hand, you can't necessarily study/research your way in, you will miss the little innuendos only a survivor can understand. I hope that did not come out as bad as it sounds.
I am not going to have much to say about Elan because if you have read my posts from 10/09 till now, I have had a strange journey with them myself but that being said I am still a Elanian ( as far as my identification here) and I will put my ass on the line for any of these folks, whether they like me or not.
I am partial to Straight because majority of my friends in Atlanta were from Straight, also have a few friends in Florida. I have "behind the scenes" supported Straight survivors for well over 20 years.
As for Seed, Cedu and WWASP still learning about, Oh also know about Hyde School, a very close friend went there a long time ago.
Still learning here, it has been a very interesting ride so far.