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Copenhagen Climate Council is not for ordinary people
« on: November 26, 2009, 11:43:45 PM »
Denmark has declared State of Emergency in relationship with the Copenhagen Climate Council.

A temporary prison has been made in a warehouse located here.

The police has purchased a lot of cages with as little place as the hobbit known from Spring Creek Lodge


Prison cage for one inmate - the shelf in the middle will be removed

The emergency laws allowed the police to detain you for 12 hours in such a cage without putting your before a judge and without ever charging you for a crime. There are no limit of the number of times they can do that nor how long there should be between the 12 hour periods. The police alone makes the judgment whether you will be detained and their decision are according to the law not to be questioned - not even by the courts. Before the summit the period was 6 hours and it was used against soccer fans, who is labeled to come from low-income households and therefore potential violent according to the customs in our country.

Second foreigners who is doing as little as just blocking police will be detained and permanently deported. It doesn't matter if they did just enter Denmark or they have been born here. If they havn't applied for citizenship they will be deported.

Third every kind of participation in a peaceful demonstration that turns into riot will be punished with 40 days in prison. It doesn't matter if you don't participate in the riots. You are the brothers keeper of other protesters.

In generally I urge you to stay away from Denmark. The politicians in Denmark don't want the population to disturb them while they treat the visiting politicians with food, girls and entertainment. See also this blog entry about the summit.
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Re: Copenhagen Climate Council is not for ordinary people
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2009, 01:43:21 PM »
I don't doubt that the Copenhagen summit will get its share of protesters and a standard police-state response, but I don't think we can really believe anything this idiot has to say, as many of his other statements are utter and complete bullshit.

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The leader of Sudan who has turned his country away from civil war has problems at home he need to address.

The leader of Sudan turned his country away from civil war? :rofl: Sudan had a very successful genocide, killing hundreds of thousands of people with speed and efficiency. al-Bashir is literally a fugitive President, convicted of war crimes. He can't show up in Denmark because Denmark actually listens to the International Criminal Court.

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But the ender of Apartheid - Robert Mugabe - will turn up in Copenhagen. The hero and icon of a typical leader of a country in Africa will be there so he can steer the summit towards succesful goals.

Robert Mugabe a hero and icon? :roflmao: Robert Mugabe has run his country into the fucking ground! Google "Zimbabwe Inflation" sometime. Or read up on what he's done to his MDC opponents, or how he's completely obliterated agriculture in the area, and unemployment rates, and everything else that makes the Western world think that Africans aren't smart enough to run their own countries. The man is a brutal, sadistic dictator.
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Re: Copenhagen Climate Council is not for ordinary people
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2009, 05:11:50 PM »
Regardless of Mugabe's latest actions money were collected in Denmark so he can travel up here bragging of a working school system. The art of Politics is dirty. Can you find a single reason why the school system of Zimbabwe should be rebuilt for money collected by community service done by high schoolers in Denmark unless it was to give him some reason to visit Denmark?

For the former communist who is presently known as social democrats or members of the socialist peopleparty he remains a hero and if you look in the litterature and read how a Belgian journalist describe his visit in Central Africa around 1930 in the book by George Remi most children have seen during their childhood, he is an African leader in a way we expect to see.

As for the president of Sudan please remember that world leaders have immunity during such high profile summits as result of an agreement made in the U.N. It is sad but truth. He could have participated in the summit without risking arrest.
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Re: Copenhagen Climate Council is not for ordinary people
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2009, 05:15:14 PM »
About the new laws:

Legislation gives police more power (The Copenhagen Post, November 27,2009):

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A new law passed specifically for the upcoming climate conference gives police pre-emptive powers of arrest

Legislation giving police the right to pre-emptive arrests in connection with the COP15 climate conference was passed by a decisively split parliament yesterday.

With the support of the Danish People’s Party, the government’s Liberal and Conservative parties were able to push through the controversial ‘agitator package’, aimed at limiting violent demonstrations by protesters at the upcoming summit in December in Copenhagen.

The new legislation allows police to detain those arrested for up to 12 hours under the premise that they ‘might’ take part in civil disobedience. In addition, protesters can be jailed for up to 40 days if police determine the activists have ‘hindered’ their work.
Fines for civil disobedience were also raised to 5000 kroner through the new package.

Parliament’s remaining parties continued to slam the proposal yesterday prior to its passing, calling it anti-democratic. They pointed to the very broad language that ‘persons who do not directly take part in protests but are in the area can be arrested and sentenced to up to 40 days in jail’ as being especially worrying.

‘I think it’s a very serious broadening of police authority that’s been approved,’ said Line Barfoed, legal affairs spokeswoman for the Red-Green Alliance. ‘People who live in the area and have just stopped to talk to their neighbours risk being arrested if there are any disturbances nearby.’

The package had earlier been criticised by the Danish Judges Association in an official hearing response to the Justice Ministry. The judges believed that a ‘considerably clearer legal basis’ needed to be shown to justify the broadening of police power proposed.

The Prison and Probation Service and Institute for Human Rights also expressed their opposition to the legislation.

But Brian Mikkelsen, the justice minister, said the government had a responsibility to ‘crack down hard’ on those who attempt to sabotage the police’s work.

‘We’ve seen in the media recently that activists are consciously planning illegal activities to hinder the police at the conference. We want to ensure a strong and consistent legal practice in cases of gross civil disturbance,’ Mikkelsen told Politiken newspaper.

Per Larsen, superintendent of Copenhagen Police, added that it would only be in ‘completely uncontrollable situations’ that the new legislation would be used.

Although the legislation was passed with an aim at COP15 protesters, it was passed as a permanent law that will remain in effect after the conference is over.
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700 hundred arrested so far.
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2009, 03:38:02 PM »
We tried to warn them.

The central regime has annouced that they arrested 700 hundred activists in Copenhagen this afternoon. 6 hours later they are almost transported by the single bus the police own to Valby Internment called the Climate Prison. However several received frost bites while they were waiting for the bus and some ended in the hospital properly suffering from severe cases of pneumonia as there was no access to toilets and they had to soil themselves.

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The police managed to reach their target. They were going after some 30 hardcore activist and sealed an entire block off arresting everybody inside this block. The police interviews tonight will determine who is hardcore activist and who was taken in by mistake.

This was what we have been trying to warn people about before entering our country. Some ended in jail even before the demonstration started because they had pads of foam in their clothes, which according to our weapon law is a passive kind of weapon which can soften the blows by the police batons (Clothes from the 80's are banned in Denmark). Also simple things like Keychains have led to arrests. I wonder why something like a simple manual were not given to the activists by their Danish mates. Then most of the arrests before the demonstrations could have been avoided.
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Re: Copenhagen Climate Council is not for ordinary people
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2009, 03:51:25 PM »
The police has confirmed that most of the arrested people were foreigners. No harm done according to the Danish People Party.
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Re: Copenhagen Climate Council is not for ordinary people
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2009, 10:14:19 AM »
So far 16:00 Danish time the police has arrested 200. They target foreigners who have come to Denmark trying to take focus away from the climate summit. Our state of emergency laws allows us to deport people for as little as shoplifting regarding of how many years they have lived here, if they have no permanent Danish citizenship.

In the meantime special discounts are given to leaders from the third world who dont want to accept the Danish proposal which can save them from climate problems if they stop any kind of industrial production and return to farming and service tourists who want to visit them.

Prostitutes Offer Free Climate Summit Sex, Der Spiegel
Danish document threatens climate deal, Denmarks Radio
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200 detained in crackdown on climate protest
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2009, 10:50:18 AM »
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So far 16:00 Danish time the police has arrested 200.
It bears emphasis that this is in addition to the close to 1000 that they arrested the day prior.

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200 detained in crackdown on climate protest
By KARL RITTER, Associated Press Writer – 6 mins ago


Danish riot police checks the handcuffs of a demonstrator before leading him into a police bus in the center of Copenhagen, Denmark, Sunday Dec. 13, 2009. The largest and most important U.N. climate change conference is underway in Copenhagen, aiming to secure an agreement on how to protect the world from calamitous global warming.
(AP Photo/Peter Dejong)


COPENHAGEN – Danish police outnumbered protesters on Sunday, detaining more than 200 people on a second day of demonstrations as environment ministers met for informal talks to advance negotiations on a new pact.

Meanwhile, church bells in Denmark and other countries rang 350 times, a number that refers to what many scientists consider a safe level of carbon dioxide in the air.

Police stopped an unauthorized demonstration headed toward the city's harbor and carried out a security check of some of the participants, Copenhagen police spokesman Flemming Steen Munch told The Associated Press.

The hundreds of demonstrators were outnumbered by police officers in riot gear who surrounded them. Steen Munch said police found bolt-cutters and gas masks when they searched a truck that led the demonstration. At least 200 activists were detained, he said.

A day earlier, police had detained nearly 1,000 activists at the tail end of a 40,000-strong march toward the suburban conference center where the 192-nation U.N. climate conference is being held.

The detainees were from a range of European countries as well as the U.S, Kenya, Belarus, Japan, Mongolia, China and Turkey, police said.

Only 13 of them remained in custody Sunday. Of those, three — two Danes and a Frenchman — were set to be arraigned in court on preliminary charges of fighting with police.

Police said they detained the activists when some of them started breaking windows of buildings in downtown Copenhagen. A police officer received minor injuries when he was hit by a rock thrown from the group and one protester was injured by fireworks, Steen Munch said.

Critics blasted the Danish law that allows police to make preventative arrests if they believe a demonstration will turn violent and hold suspected troublemakers for up to 12 hours without a court arraignment.

"They have arrested 1,000 people. And they only followed up on three of them," Amnesty spokeswoman Ida Thuesen said. "There are lot of people who haven't done anything and had no intention of doing anything."

The conference took a day off Sunday, though more than 40 environment ministers and other high-level negotiators were meeting for informal talks at the Danish Foreign Ministry on greenhouse emissions cuts and financing for poor nations to deal with climate change.

The pledges on emissions cuts so far are short of the minimum proposed in a draft agreement to keep temperatures from rising to a dangerous level.

Also Sunday, Christian leaders from around the world took part in an ecumenical service dedicated to climate change and led by Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams at Copenhagen's Lutheran cathedral.

Archbishop Desmond Tutu of South Africa joined church leaders from Tuvalu, Zambia, Mexico, Greenland and Denmark to warn about the dangers of a warming world.

They carried symbols of climate change, a glacier stone from Greenland and bleached corals from the Pacific Ocean. The Rev. Suzanne Matale of Zambia held up a dried-up cob of corn.

"Many people have already perished as a result of droughts, floods and desertification brought about by climate change," Matale said.

After the service the church bells sounded 350 times in a campaign to draw attention to global warming. The National Council of Churches in Denmark says Christian churches in Denmark and across the globe were part of the campaign, from Fiji in the South Pacific to the U.S. and Canada.

About 300 churches in Sweden took part, including the Cathedral in Stockholm's Old Town.

Many scientists say 350 parts per million is the upper level of what is considered a safe concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere.

The European Union, Japan and Australia joined the U.S. Saturday in criticizing the draft global warming pact that says major developing nations must rein in greenhouse gases, but only if they have outside financing. Rich nations want to require developing nations to limit emissions, with or without financial help.

Indian Environment Minister Jairam Ramesh said his country — the world's No. 5 greenhouse gas polluter — will not offer more than its current pledge to slow its growth rate of emissions. It has offered to cut greenhouse gases measured against production by 20 to 25 percent by 2020.

China has made voluntary commitments to rein in its carbon emissions but doesn't want to be bound by international law to do so.

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Associated Press writers Jan M. Olsen, John Heilprin and Arthur Max contributed to this report.

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EDITOR'S NOTE — Find behind-the-scenes information, blog posts and discussion about the Copenhagen climate conference at http://www.facebook.com/theclimatepool, a Facebook page run by AP and an array of international news agencies. Follow coverage and blogging of the event on Twitter at: http://www.twitter.com/AP_ClimatePool


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Re: Copenhagen Climate Council is not for ordinary people
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2009, 11:11:47 AM »
3 charges out of 1000 arrests are not uncommon. Arrests are often based on social status. They happen every Sunday at soccer games where the police arrests fans who are immigrants or comes from the work class. They are detained for as little as 6 hours. However that it happened on one day, that is extraordinary.
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more arrest pics from earlier today
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2009, 11:24:44 AM »

Danish police arrest demonstrators in Copenhagen Sunday Dec. 13, 2009. The largest and most important U.N. climate change conference is underway in Copenhagen, aiming to secure an agreement on how to protect the world from calamitous global warming.
(AP Photo/Anton Unger, POLFOTO)



Danish riot police scuffle with demonstrators in Copenhagen, Sunday Dec. 13, 2009. The largest and most important U.N. climate change conference is underway in Copenhagen, aiming to secure an agreement on how to protect the world from calamitous global warming.
(AP Photo/Thibault Camus)



Danish riot police arrest demonstrators in Copenhagen Sunday Dec. 13, 2009. Danish police on Sunday released hundreds of activists who were detained during a mass rally demanding strong action from delegates at the U.N. climate conference. The largest and most important U.N. climate change conference is underway in Copenhagen, aiming to secure an agreement on how to protect the world from calamitous global warming.
(AP Photo/Peter Dejong)
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Re: Copenhagen Climate Council is not for ordinary people
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2009, 10:26:49 PM »
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Re: Copenhagen Climate Council is not for ordinary people
« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2009, 07:08:49 AM »
While the new laws should be considered State of Emergency Laws, I am 100 percent sure that they will remain in place once the last participant in COP15 has left Denmark. Then we will live in a police state thanks to this summit.

I am kind of angry that so many were interested in this summit and entered Denmark regardless of the many warning made in advance. It is rather well-known that foreigners will be beaten up by the police. They do it all the time with soccer fans. The policemen even have a facebook group where they bragg about their actions. Here is a video from a soccer match between Denmark and Sweden some years ago: Hooligan police (Youtube)

The Swedish fans received well deserved beating for calling one of our beloved kings Christian the Tyrant

I hope that this Lumumba nobody who is angry at the Danish text which could save the world will be banned from further participation in the summit and send home to whereever he comes from.
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Re: Copenhagen Climate Council is not for ordinary people
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2009, 05:17:18 PM »
Well the end result was about 1,800 preemptive arrests. About 20-30 people were actually charged. Also it became clear that the police had worked hard to register how people voted and even registered entries like this one in advance just because I mention COP15 from a Danish server.

The secret police started to arrest the speakers from NGO’s at the conference because they had spoken with protesters outside within 6 months before COP15.
I have to say that both the slow phone connections and slow internet connections we experienced during the COP15 showed that there was a lot of control with the electronic communication.

Unfortunately the worst part is that the state of emergency laws will not be reversed. Our state confines us to our homes right now.
I have to say thank the entire world very much for allowing Copenhagen to host this conference and imprison us citizens. It is just what we need.
Some might have noticed that there came no agreement as result of 14 days of conference. But as I will state it:
I would rather see the world blown up killing us all than sending a lot of money down to Africa or other poor countries where I know that 10-20% of the money ends up in the wrong pockets.

This kind of work the members of the G-77 presented us for what blackmail of the worst kind. They didn’t come because they were worried about the climate. They came because they would try to lure us for some money.
So we had a good meeting. It is over. Now it is time for us Danes to suffer scared 24/7 by the possible actions from our authorities.
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Re: Copenhagen Climate Council is not for ordinary people
« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2009, 04:32:48 AM »
I am afraid now. I wrote a email to one of my friends where I criticized the way our prime minister handled the meeting by not throwing the Africa leaders out so they could get an agreement. Did our police read it? Will I be arrested like the spoke persons of Climate Action something?
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