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« on: October 12, 2007, 05:58:50 PM »
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I feel that there are probably many kids out there who were abused enough in AARC to press criminal charges, but they are either too afraid or too confused about what happened to talk about it. Most of the victims I speak to are working so hard to change their lives and get away from anything involved with AARC that they simply say "I just can't deal with it right now."


What might be worth somebody looking into is how many cases the chief prosecutor in Calgary,  Gordon Wong has declined to prosecute because "The possibility of obtaining a conviction is remote"

Could it be that some people may have attempted to pursue charges but have run into a brick wall when encountering the Calgary Crown Prosecutor's office?
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« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2007, 12:25:33 AM »
Not to mention the Calgary Police Service.

They are on the "Special Friends of AARC" list, right up there with the Board of Education.

Thanks for your support!!!
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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2007, 12:55:23 PM »
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Not to mention the Calgary Police Service.

They are on the "Special Friends of AARC" list, right up there with the Board of Education.
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Not so much these days. There's been some transitions of people, and more and more incidents popping up. It's safe for graduates or escapes to go to the police to and tell their story, where as in the past that wasn't necessarily the case. Right now if you make a statement to the police you will be supported. From there it's in their court on what kind of action will be taken.

I think it's important for graduates to know that it's as simple as calling the non emergency line and informing them that you'd like to report what happened to you, and they will arrange a time and a place. It's not a Rap, you are not being interrogated, you are just telling them what happened and they are documenting it. It doesn't matter if you were in AARC yesterday or last year. If you were there against your will, restrained, denied civil rights, or physically or sexually abused in some way, that information needs to be documented.
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« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2007, 12:58:41 AM »
It's hard to prove psychological torment.
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« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2007, 04:36:37 AM »
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It's hard to prove psychological torment.


It's rather like circumstantial evidence.
One report not proven doesn't go anywhere.

A half a dozen similar reports starts to raise substantial questions and demands an explanation.  When the explanation is a complex of lies and lies and misrepresentations, and especially when it tends to attack the messenger  not the message, well...
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« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2007, 01:56:32 PM »
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It's hard to prove psychological torment.


Very true. But it is not as hard to prove physical abuse, sexual abuse, or kidnapping. Especially with witnesses.

Also, someone may very well have a story with AARC that doesn't involve having been physically or sexually abused, and someone who was never restrained, or maybe they were only there for a couple of days so didn't even see any of that. Regardless, someone with that sort of an experience knows that children are there against their will and that unlawful tactics are used to keep them in there. They can give a statement to the police, and it may not be enough for the police to take any form of immediate action. It will however, be another person coming forward who is stating on the record what they are aware of, and the next time that the police get called because a neighbor witnesses a group of newcomers and an oldcomer sitting on someone in the front yard, and when arriving the victim begs the police to save them from AARC (just an example of a typical situation) they will think twice before abandoning the victim.

The fund raising for AARC from the R.C.M.P. scared victims away from reporting their abuse. Graduates need to know now that there is nothing to be afraid of. AARC programs you into thinking that everyone sees you as a lying manipulator, and that nobody will believe you when you tell them what happened to you. If the worse scenario is true and a police officer thinks you are making it all up, so what? Then they'll file it and do nothing with it, and maybe it will sit there forever unnoticed, or maybe someone else will pick it up and look into it. You don't loose anything in the process.
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