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« on: October 10, 2007, 10:34:58 AM »
The hearings have started, watch the hearings

edit:Updated the link to the archived footage
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i]Do something real, however, small. And don\'t-- don\'t diss the political things, but understand their limitations - Grace Lee Boggs[/i]
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« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2007, 11:05:59 AM »
A father just stuck his foot into natsap saying at the end of his testimony, about his sons death, how the Alldredge Academy continues to be a proud member of NATSAP.
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i]Do something real, however, small. And don\'t-- don\'t diss the political things, but understand their limitations - Grace Lee Boggs[/i]
I do see the present and the future of our children as very dark. But I trust the people\'s capacity for reflection, rage, and rebellion - Oscar Olivera

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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2007, 11:08:31 AM »
Hell, another parent just stuck it to NATSAP over a death at Catherine Freer Wilderness Expeditions.
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i]Do something real, however, small. And don\'t-- don\'t diss the political things, but understand their limitations - Grace Lee Boggs[/i]
I do see the present and the future of our children as very dark. But I trust the people\'s capacity for reflection, rage, and rebellion - Oscar Olivera

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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2007, 11:19:59 AM »
the natsap shill's response ought to be interesting.
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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2007, 11:39:02 AM »
Holy monkey shit, look at the guys in the background. They look like a bunch of elementary schoolers about to go on stage for the first time. The nervousness is palpable.

C'mon, Miller: You can use the phrase whack-a-mole.
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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2007, 11:43:02 AM »
I'll forgive george for being a shithead if he asks the natsap shill to do a barrel roll.
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« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2007, 11:48:43 AM »
Miller knows what he's talking about. The hyper-pwnage is apparent. Kutz is strident and confident. Foot, ass, etc.
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« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2007, 11:51:00 AM »
I can't get the link to work
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« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2007, 11:54:19 AM »
"I'm sorry I don't have that information in my hand right now": Hahahaha. Moss looks like someone who's walked into a viper pit and is surprised to find vipers.
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« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2007, 11:55:05 AM »
Quote from: ""ChristineMarie""
I can't get the link to work


Copypaste into your media player.
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« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2007, 12:09:13 PM »
Heh...I haven't been able to watch, but Hanzo's notes are giving me a feeling of relief.  NATSAP's hubris is gonna end  up making them look like cold blooded bastards.  A START had to deal with NATSAP's arrogance at the conference/symposium they did in Florida, and they know exactly what NATSAP is about.  I just realized, there's an anagram:  SATAN P-  Satan programs?
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« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2007, 12:10:49 PM »
NATSAP is trying to play a good game, the panel needs to focus more on abuse to really ring out natsap's bs. The good thing is that the GAO is still investigating, so survivors get in contact. Especially those abused in licensed, JCAHO, and NATSAP accredited programs (Provo Canyon, Peninsula Village, Elan).

What gets me though is that they act like this shit is new, hello Straight/Seed?

*note: We really should have a list of known abusive NATSAP programs
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i]Do something real, however, small. And don\'t-- don\'t diss the political things, but understand their limitations - Grace Lee Boggs[/i]
I do see the present and the future of our children as very dark. But I trust the people\'s capacity for reflection, rage, and rebellion - Oscar Olivera

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« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2007, 12:13:52 PM »
Actually Zen the best acronym for them is APANTS, A- having its general meaning of 'lack of' or 'without', as in amoral or atheist.
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« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2007, 12:21:44 PM »
Hanzomon, such a list can already be found at http://www.natsap.com/programs_list.asp .
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« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2007, 12:50:59 PM »
Great!!! they have touched on the shuffling of programs and staff from state to state/name to name.

And now the NATSAP lady is being grilled on how they follow up on complaints, in short she's drowning.

EDIT: DAMN!!! She got threatened with a subpoena if she did not cough up the records on the complaints NATSAP has "investigated".
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i]Do something real, however, small. And don\'t-- don\'t diss the political things, but understand their limitations - Grace Lee Boggs[/i]
I do see the present and the future of our children as very dark. But I trust the people\'s capacity for reflection, rage, and rebellion - Oscar Olivera

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