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« on: January 15, 2007, 02:01:42 PM »
Canada's anti-drug strategy a failure, study suggests


Canada's anti-drug strategy a failure, study suggests
Last Updated: Monday, January 15, 2007 | 9:29 AM ET
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Hundreds of millions of dollars are being spent to enforce Canada's drug laws, with little to show for it, suggests a new report from the country's largest HIV/AIDS research and treatment facility.

Illicit drugs remain cheap and easily available, and are used by more people than ever, says the report by the B.C. Centre for Excellence in HIV/AIDS.

"In 1994, 28.5 per cent of Canadians reported having consumed illicit drugs in their life; by 2004, that figure had jumped to 45 per cent," said a news release from the group.

The report, which is based partly on data obtained through freedom of information requests, says too much of Ottawa's multimillion-dollar strategy goes toward policing instead of treatment, prevention and research.

Treasury Board documents show 73 per cent of the $368 million spent on targeting illicit drugs in 2004-2005 went toward law enforcement initiatives.

The remainder was split among treatment (14 per cent), research (seven per cent), prevention (2.6 per cent) and harm-reduction programs (2.6 per cent).

Money well spent: RCMP

The director of the RCMP's drug branch in Ottawa said spending money on law enforcement has a ripple effect.

"It's about the impact it's having on society and the communities where we live ? the home invasions, the grow-ops," said Supt. Paul Nadeau.

"It's not just solely about law enforcement, taking people to court, that sort of thing. We're involved in trying to push other approaches, other initiatives to try to make an impact on these issues."

Dr. Julio Montaner, one of the authors of the study, believes more should be spent on harm reduction, such as needle exchanges and safe-injection sites. Such programs are being threatened despite proof they benefit both drug addicts and taxpayers, he said.

Ottawa has given Vancouver's Downtown Eastside safe-injection site a year-long extension to continue operating, though its long-term future remains uncertain. It has been operating since 2003, with an exemption under Section 56 of the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper and Health Minister Tony Clement have said they will wait for the result of studies on supervised injection sites to help decide the site's future.
Police program criticized

The report singles out a program called DARE, which sends police into schools to talk to young people about the dangers of drug abuse. In 2006, 75,000 students in 1,600 Canadian schools heard from police officers as part of the program.

DARE receives a lot of money and attention in Canada's official drug strategy, but hasn't shown any proof of effectiveness, said Montaner.

"Having politicians pretending they know what is going to fix the drug problem in the absence of objective indicators is a recipe for disaster," he said. "It's a recipe for hidden agendas, recipe for ideological agendas and a recipe for people to try to impose a world on you as opposed to what the world really is."

DARE and similar programs should face the same level of scrutiny as the safe-injection site and have their funding taken away if they don't show success, he said.

"The DARE program is entrenched into the strategy and begs the question, why? If it's not working, let's fix it, let's change it, let's modify it," he said.

An Ottawa RCMP officer who helps run the program said that while there's little scientific proof it works, he believes it is successful.

"From my experience as a front-line officer working in those schools, I have to say it has the ability to bring some very positive outcomes to those kids," said Sgt. Mark Sorokan.

When Canada's new drug strategy was launched in 2003, the government promised to deliver status reports every two years. No reports or evaluations have been made available so far, say the authors.

The report will be published in Monday's HIV/AIDS Policy and Law Review.


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« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2007, 02:16:28 PM »
When ciggarettes become illegal I wonder if they'll start putting people in jail for it?
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« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2007, 02:29:46 PM »
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"Having programs pretending they know what is going to fix adolescentsin the absence of objective indicators is a recipe for disaster," he said. "It's a recipe for hidden agendas, recipe for ideological agendas and a recipe for people to try to impose a world on you as opposed to what the world really is."


Sounds a lot like what we've been saying about the EG/TBS/BM industry here.  Especially the "absence of objective indicators" part.
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« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2007, 04:04:24 PM »
Quote from: ""Dysfunction Junction""
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"Having programs pretending they know what is going to fix adolescentsin the absence of objective indicators is a recipe for disaster," he said. "It's a recipe for hidden agendas, recipe for ideological agendas and a recipe for people to try to impose a world on you as opposed to what the world really is."

Sounds a lot like what we've been saying about the EG/TBS/BM industry here.  Especially the "absence of objective indicators" part.


it would be honest to use a quotation if it were what was actually said,  but to change it for your own purposes smacks of disfunctional ethics.  is that the only way to advance whatever your cause???
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« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2007, 03:35:51 PM »
Quote from: ""Guest""
When ciggarettes become illegal I wonder if they'll start putting people in jail for it?
But ( ha ha ) cigarettes solve crimes!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1002593.stm
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« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2007, 03:58:59 PM »
They do? ... Bloody fags, luv? :rofl:
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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2007, 04:07:46 PM »
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Quote from: ""Guest""
When ciggarettes become illegal I wonder if they'll start putting people in jail for it?
But ( ha ha ) cigarettes solve crimes!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1002593.stm


Part of the inspection procedures used in the aviation industry to inspect airliners was to look for small cracks in the inner and outer shell of the cabins and pressurized spaces or places which might have been compromised.  When found they would write up a report and have them repaired.  In 1990 the inspectors found that routine inspections were not yielding as many reported cracks, in fact they were down dramatically.  An in-depth report determined that the decrease coincided with introduction of "No Smoking" policies on most domestic flights.  It was later determined that the cracks were being easily found by observing the build up of tar (staining) at the site of the crack where air was rushing thru to the outside of the plane.  Now they are not detectable.
How safe did the ?No Smoking policy? really make us?
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« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2007, 07:12:08 PM »
ThEwHo, how many people die of smoke-related illness and how many people die from plane crashes, a year?  :D
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« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2007, 07:15:25 PM »
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It was later determined that the cracks were being easily found by observing the build up of tar (staining) at the site of the crack where air was rushing thru to the outside of the plane.


Nasty!
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« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2007, 08:55:53 PM »
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ThEwHo, how many people die of smoke-related illness and how many people die from plane crashes, a year?  :D


By no means am I saying that Banning smoking on air lines was a bad move.  I think we are all well aware of how many lives are taken each year from cigarette smoking.
What I find interesting is the continuous reminder that every time we pass a law that is a unanimous improvement there is something that suffers, no matter how small, there is a benefit that is lost.
I personally find them interesting.
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« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2007, 11:15:09 PM »
How many planes have crashed in the US since 1990 due to mechanical failure or more specifically these cracks?

Oh and go back up your claims.
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« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2007, 09:00:13 AM »
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How many planes have crashed in the US since 1990 due to mechanical failure or more specifically these cracks?

Oh and go back up your claims.


Sounds like a good research project for you.  It seems we have found something that interests You, Bob!!

The way I would approach it, if it were me, I would look at all the airlines (Domestic and foreign) draw a time line and look at the safety records for each over say the past 30 years and then overlay the introduction of the smoking ban to see if it had any measurable impact.
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« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2007, 10:43:06 AM »
Many things interest me Cindy plane crashes aren't really one of them however. What is at the moment though is seeing if you can back up any of your claims. Apparently the answer to that question is no. You seem to view yourself as a teacher or sorts here on fornits, one that can challenge his students with his hypothesis and encourage them to prove him right or wrong. Thus not only learning research techniques but building the courage to formulate their own theories on things.

This is not the case Cindy. We are here to present prospective parents with the FACTS concerning TBS's. Fornits also allows for former students to freely speak about their experiences or for brainwashed program devotees like yourself to offer an opposing view point. The problem with you is this: You aren't a teacher here, you need to realize that. If you want to make a claim regarding something (even something so unrelated as plane crashes) fine, simply BACK UP YOUR OWN CLAIMS. If you cannot do that then you are simply wasting parents time and Ginger's bandwith, at which point it would be time to move on.
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« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2007, 11:28:17 AM »
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Many things interest me Cindy plane crashes aren't really one of them however. What is at the moment though is seeing if you can back up any of your claims. Apparently the answer to that question is no. You seem to view yourself as a teacher or sorts here on fornits, one that can challenge his students with his hypothesis and encourage them to prove him right or wrong. Thus not only learning research techniques but building the courage to formulate their own theories on things.

This is not the case Cindy. We are here to present prospective parents with the FACTS concerning TBS's. Fornits also allows for former students to freely speak about their experiences or for brainwashed program devotees like yourself to offer an opposing view point. The problem with you is this: You aren't a teacher here, I want you to realize that. If you want to make a claim regarding something (even something so unrelated as plane crashes) fine, simply BACK UP YOUR OWN CLAIMS. If you cannot do that then you are simply wasting parents time and Ginger's bandwith, at which point it would be time to move on.


Bob, I just don?t agree with you.  I am sorry my posts cause you so much anxiety.  What I typically do and suggest to others is to just skip over those posts that annoy you or that you just don?t agree with in general.  That?s one reason the names are shown to the left of the post, to identify who is the author and help the reader to determine if it is worth reading or not.  If you feel a specific author is spewing bull, just don?t read it !!  That?s what I do.
I am not going to reference every news article and scan it into the system for you to read nor do I expect it from you.
If you are concerned about Bandwidth do a quick search on RobertBruces last 30 posts and see how much value was added to fornits in the form of constructive input.
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Girls Going Wild OK, according to experts
« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2007, 05:56:38 PM »
http://abcnews.go.com/US/Health/story?i ... SFeeds0312


Some Say It's OK for Girls to Go Wild
Though Teens Are Expressing Their Sexuality More Than Ever, Some Say It's Just Part of Growing Up

Some child development specialists say that girls posting so-called provocative pictures of themselves on the Internet could be a sign of a healthy self-image.  (ABC NEWS)

By SHEILA MARIKAR

Jan. 17, 2007 ? Your 14-year-old daughter shows up on MySpace in a bikini. Her 13-year-old friend is wearing a miniskirt that might make Britney Spears blush. Time to panic? Not necessarily.

Wearing short-shorts and belly shirts, grinding to hip-hop hits, and posting provocative pictures of themselves on the Internet ? the behavior of many teen and tween girls has parents wondering if their daughters are bound for a lifetime of promiscuity and loose morals.

But some psychologists and child-development specialists believe nothing about the teenage drama has really changed. While young women may express their sexuality more overtly than they have in the past, for the most part, their behavior isn't cause for alarm. It's a necessary step in growing up.

Looking Sexy Doesn't Equate With Sexual Activity

Looks can be deceiving. A girl who puts a seductive picture of herself on the Internet for all to see may shudder at the thought of striking the same pose in front of her peers.

"There's a difference between posting a picture of yourself in virtual space, like Myspace or YouTube or Friendster, and posing in provocative clothing in public," said John Broughton, Columbia University professor of psychology and education.

Similarly, sexy clothes do not beget sexual activity.

Jaana Juvonen, who studies the development of middle and high school students at UCLA, said that because girls hit puberty earlier now than they did decades ago, they're tempted to mimic the appearance of their older peers. That doesn't mean they're engaging in acts that ought to be beyond their years.

"Many girls might look very differently from how they act," she said. "We should not judge them based on what they look like."

Nor should adults assume that teenagers are having sex because their style of dancing or taste in music suggests it.

According to LynNell Hancock, a Columbia University journalism professor who covers the youth beat, bumping and grinding to today's sultry songs no more reflects what teens do off the dance floor than grooving to Jimi Hendrix or Elvis Presley did in the past.
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