"
On 2005-12-22 09:59:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Ok, it stems from a cult, therefore it IS a cult? That seems to be your logic. Just because a cult inspired CEDU doesn't mean that CEDU is a cult. I'd say the vast majority of cult members are willingly participating in their rituals. On the flipside, the vast majority of cedu students wanted absolutely nothing to do with the program. Those running a cult tend to be sold on its beliefs. But many of the staff at cedu were far from sold. So you can go ahead and keep calling it a cult, and I'll be here thinking that perhaps you are the one on crack. "
I agree that many staff at cedu weren't completetely sold on the program, but did any of those staff ever command a position of real authority or influence within the organization? No, they NEVER did. The people who made the decisions at Cedu were indeed solid on it's beliefs & values. Only a person totally brainwashed and on crack would believe otherwise.
I too believe that the vast majority of kids at cedu wanted nothing to do with the program, and as I said before: there were indeed staff who had their doubts as well. However, whether or not they wanted to,EVERYONE did in fact participate in Cedu's cult-inspired rituals. So why did so many people take part in something they wanted nothing to do with? I'll tell you why: Fear, the Fear of what would happen to them if they refused.
Cults almost always claim that a greater love, higher purpose, & understanding of the world around us, is what draws and binds them together. They believe that this makes them superior to the rest of us. Does any of this sound familar? Because It should if you ever sat through "First Light" or whatever they called morning meetings at your respective Cedu prison. Cedu preached that same shit to us every day.
Yet despite all of those claims, the truth is: that while promises of enlightenment and belonging may draw people to cults, FEAR is actually what keeps them there. Cult leaders thrive on fear. Cult members are constantly reminded (threatened) about what would happen to them if they ever "betrayed the family". Fear not only keeps people in cults, it keeps them silent, even when they do find the strength to escape.
And fear is what kept kids at cedu, fear of lock-up, jail, living on the streets, not graduating, being anally raped, dying, never seeing our families again, and all the other shit Cedu staff threatened us with if we didn't "get with the program."
Say what you want, but the similarities between Cedu and documented cults like Synanon are far greater, than those between Cedu and REAL schools. Hell, you yourself admitted that "Cedu stems from a cult" (namely Synanon).
Regardless of how you feel about it, I would like to repeat the so called "tool" I quoted from earlier Cedu's retarded philosophy:
"You are what you do, not what you say you do."
Whether or not Cedu is in fact a "true cult", they do indeed "Act like a cult" in every
way. This means that Cedu must be a Cult by their own definition! ::both::
One last thing, why would someone who alledgedly hates cedu, get so bent out of shape when others call it a cult? The answer is simple: You don't hate cedu at all, in fact, I believe that you indentify yourself with Cedu, which is why you get so offended when others point out what it really is, a cult!
.
[ This Message was edited by: Son Of Serbia on 2005-12-27 12:18 ]