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I Lost My Husband to a Cult
« on: December 12, 2005, 10:43:00 PM »
Redbook Magazine May 1994

We joined a "Personal-growth group to bring us closer. But what we learned would shatter our marriage forever.

By ANNE MCANDREWS


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More than a year after the tragedy, Waco is still on my mind, for I, too, once gave my life over to a cult.

But my story does not involve the Branch Davidians, or any other religious group that isolates itself in a compound. My experience was with a cult that arms itself not with rifles but with psychological manipulation. A cult called Lifespring.

Ten years ago my husband and I, 32 and 30 years old, enrolled in a course, hoping to improve our marriage. What started out as a weekend workshop grew into a five-month odyssey that ripped apart our family.

A PERFECT MARRIAGE *All names changed to protect privacy

After five years of marriage, Tim* and I thought we had it all: a loving relationship, a newborn son, a 3-year-old daughter, and a house overlooking the ocean in southern California. Tim's accounting business was expanding; I was close to my goal of playing professional golf.

But our marriage wasn't perfect. After the birth of our son, we no longer seemed able to find time just to be together, to feel close, and Tim had become increasingly testy and demanding. He'd explode at the sight of toys on the floor, or unfolded laundry. "Clean the house or get a job," he snapped one day. "Why should I work SO YOU can play golf?" Neither of us was happy, and we realized we needed help. Three months after our son was born, we went to a marriage counselor.

The counselor said Tim needed to lower his expectations, and I needed to spend more time on myself. But we could rebuild our intimacy, he said, if we learned to talk openly and listen without judgment. Thanks to his suggestions, our marriage did seem to improve, and we rediscovered how much we still enjoyed each other.

Then one day, after two months of counseling, Tim announced he wasn't going to our weekly appointment. I was shocked. Surely he couldn't be giving up so soon. Did he want to try another therapist?

"No, I'm more interested in a workshop Dave and Lisa took called Lifespring," Tim said. "Dave says it improves relationships---cuts through the garbage in four days. In the long run it'll save us money and time."

Dave and Lisa, old friends in Los Angeles, had always seemed happily married. Surely they didn't need a couples workshop. I called Lisa.

"Dave and I are fine," she said, "but we know there's more to life than what we have now. At Lifespring everyone talks about how they feel alive and powerful. We want to feel like that. 11

That night Tim and I decided to try Lifespring. It was great to see him interested in something other than material success. As an accountant, his world had always been one of facts and rules. He used to tell me that I was good for him because I lived by intuition and spontaneity. I was touched that he wanted to work on himself and our marriage.

We went to the Lifespring center the next day. The* office, a half hour away, was staffed by conservatively dressed men and women who welcomed us warmly, and eagerly offered to sign us up for four days of Basic Training-at $400 each. Dave had warned us about the cost, and though Tim didn't seem to mind, I still thought it was outrageous. Seeing my hesitation, the recruiters assured us that after the workshop we were guaranteed to know ourselves better--or receive a refund. How could we lose? Tim cleared his work schedule for the next four days; I arranged for the kids to stay with my in-laws. We relished the idea of having time to ourselves.

HIGH ON INTIMACY

Basic Training began on a Thursday night in November, in the ballroom of a nearby hotel. Several men in dark suits guided us to our seats while the theme from 2001 played over the speakers. About 200 people sat facing an empty podium. They looked reassuringly normal-like the parents in my kids' playgroup.

Minutes later, Mark-tall, tanned, fortysomething appeared onstage to announce the rules for the weekend. Sessions would begin promptly at 10 A.m. and last until I A.M. We were to work with someone other than our spouse, and we would have to ask permission to leave the room, talk, or use the phone. We were warned that we would be dealing with emotions on a deeper level than we were used to, and that we'd rediscover parts of ourselves we'd covered up or left behind years ago. We were there for a reason, Mark said, even if we didn't yet know it. And it could change our lives.

Mark's manner spooked Tim and me: Who was this guy to control our lives, even for a weekend? But we didn't have time to reconsider. Mark was calling for our first exercise.

"Partner up. Now look into each other's eyes. And believe that your partner is either your mother or father. Then scream, cry, shout-do whatever you need to communicate."

I turned around to face Sean, a handsome man with dark hair and green eyes, who seemed to be in his thirties. As the lights dimmed I let him take my hand, alarmed by the intensity of the emotional outpouring suddenly filling the room.

I hate you! Hate you! Hate you!

Hold me, please hold me.

I need you.

"I'll start," Sean said, sensing my hesitation. "I'll be the child, and you be my mother."

His honesty was wrenching. Sean's mother died of cancer when he was 10, and within minutes he was reliving the trauma. "You can't give up," he begged. "You're my mother-why is God taking you away from me?" We were both sobbing by then. Sean explained that after college he'd gone on to become a priest, but that now he was thinking of leaving the church. He was so sensitive; it was easy for me to be open too.

"Mom and Dad," I began, "Tim and I are struggling, and I don't know what to do."

I spoke of a happy childhood, of love, and then of my recent loneliness. When the music began, signaling the end of the exercise, Sean and I hugged and returned to our seats. I didn't know how much time had elapsed, but I felt drained. Where were these confessions leading? I needed to think about what had just happened, but already we were starting a new exercise.

And that's how it went: hour after hour of intense confrontation, always with a different partner. At night Tim and I would drive home, too exhausted to talk, knowing the next session was just hours away. By the third day we were sleep deprived and emotionally overloaded, yet strangely stimulated by the energy and intimacy of the weekend.

WHERE ARE WE HEADING?

On Saturday Mark directed the group: "Go to the person you find most attractive. Eat dinner together, and explain why you chose him or her."

Tim was the only one I had in mind. Until then we'd obeyed the rules and hadn't worked together. Wouldn't it be great if we dashed into each other's arms? I searched the room for Tim and spotted him-just as he walked off with Sandi, a leggy woman in jeans and tank top who didn't look a day over 21. My heart sank. We'd come to Lifespring to work on our marriage, but we'd hardly seen each other.

Just then, Sean hugged me from behind. Suddenly I regretted having revealed so much to him. Yet everyone else seemed happy to pair off.

We went to a nearby restaurant but were too nervous to eat. "I've never felt this way about a woman before," Sean said, squeezing my hand. I reminded him I was married. "Well, as Lifespring says, it's no accident we're together," he said.

For two hours Sean listed everything he liked about me, down to the freckles on my fingers. "When this is over, let's go away together," Sean said. "I want to enjoy life-with you." Then he cupped my face in his hands and kissed me. Stunned, I pulled away, shaking my head, trying to gather my wits. I hadn't been kissed by anyone but Tim since I got married, and it was an odd feeling-albeit a nice one. Here was a man who wanted me, faults and all.

Back at the ballroom, my heart pounded as I waited for Tim to return. I didn't know what to expect. A kiss? A good laugh about the whole exercise? But when he and Sandi entered, arm in arm, smiling and laughing, they floated right past me and sat down together, cuddling like puppies.

Sean motioned for me to sit with him. Clearly he knew how hurt I was.

As I switched seats I numbly wondered why I was putting myself through this.

"So how was your friend?" I blurted out later on the drive home.

Tim smiled. "She's great. You'd really like her."

"Who chose whom?"

"We chose each other."

My first reaction was to tell him Sean had picked me. But what was the point? To brag that another man found me special? Had my self-esteem sunk that low? I fingered a paper in my pocket with Sean's phone number on it, imagining a new life with him. Tim and I rode the rest of the way in silence.

In the morning, after a good night's sleep and a phone call to my children, I felt better. Why would I trade what I had with my husband? Tim seemed chipper too. It was our last day of training, and I decided not to ruin it by harping on Sandi. Despite exhaustion, our group was punch-drunk on shared intimacies, and the graduation ceremony sent us home higher than ever. For a few days I almost forgot that Tim and I had yet to deal with any of our issues.

Soon enough, I had cause to remember. Again, Tim became mean. Only now it was impossible to reason with him because he was too busy spouting Lifespring jargon. One night as I reached in the refrigerator for cottage cheese, the container broke, splattering curds all over my skirt.

"Look what you caused," Tim yelled. "You wanted this to happen. What are you really trying to say? That you wanted attention? Look at your results."

The Lifespring staff threw a reunion party a week after graduation, urging us to sign up for Advanced Training. It was $800 each for five days. The staff gave us a week to think about it, and when we returned to the center for our "post-training checkup," they immediately led Tim and me to separate rooms. I knew when I heard cheering next door that Tim had signed up for Advanced, no questions asked. But I could think of better ways to spend $1,600, and anyway, I wanted more time with my family, not Lifespring. The two staffers kept pushing:

"Excuses! We're asking for five days, not a lifetime. Maybe you don't want to make a difference in your life or your husband's. He'll be working on his life, and you won't."

They had me.

ON TO ADVANCED TRAINING

There were 80 other trainees in our Advanced group, but we were the only couple. Training was held in a windowless warehouse in an industrial park, and it was hell from the start. The trainer, Rick, was all business. We didn't need to be babied, he said. We needed to look deep into our souls.

"What do you want?" Rick barked at an old man he pulled into the center of the group on the first day. "What do you want?"

"I want to do Christ's will," the man said.

"F--- Jesus! You think he's going to help you? He doesn't give a f---- You have to live your own life. So what do you want?"

The man began to cry. It was humiliating and embarrassing. Yet after 12-hour days of confrontation, when the trainer called the shots, you followed. In one exercise Rick polled each group member: How much sex do you have a week? How often do you masturbate? What do you fantasize about? In another he singled out me and four other women to dance for the group. As Rick put it, we were "nice girls" who needed to loosen up and push beyond our comfortable images. At first I wasn't sure why he thought dancing would test our limits. But when I saw the black lingerie and spike heels, I understood he wanted bump-and-grind action. Erotica. Raunch. I'm not sure I'll ever be able to explain why I did it. But we five women applied makeup and teased our hair and, finally, strutted out on the floor. The crowd surrounded us, hooting and hollering as we started gyrating to the music. I never looked up.

That night I slumped against our bedroom wall, desperately confused about what was happening to me, to us. "Why did I do that dance?" I asked aloud. Tim eyed me silently, and then slowly moved toward me.

"Why don't you put the teddy back on and do another one for me?" he whispered. "You were different tonight--looser, wilder. I like you better that way."

Is that what it took to get him to like me again?

By the last day we'd exposed so much of ourselves, it seemed there was no more to bare. I was wrong. It was Tim's and my turn to be called to the center of the group.

"So, Tim, what do you want?" Rick asked.

"I'm going to be living a new life," Tim announced boldly. "I was never clear on my wants. Now I can see I no longer want to be with my wife."

My whole body went numb. I tried to say something but couldn't. I listened as Tim explained that he was tired of dealing with numbers and money. That he wanted to do things he'd never done before. That he considered everything in his past a roadblock to growth..

"Is there another woman?" Rick asked, visibly surprised.

No, Tim said. He just wanted to focus on himself for a while. And Lifespring.

I was humiliated. I almost wished there were another woman. But the truth was Tim just no longer wanted me.

"What do you think about what Tim said?" Rick asked.

I couldn't answer. In my mind I was floating away, detached from the scene. On some level I knew I should leave, but I couldn't. I followed the next assignment like a zombie and mindlessly stripped to my bathing suit when ordered, just like everyone else.

My husband came up and hugged me. "You'll be fine," he said, smiling at me in my bikini. "A lot of the guys told me they want to get to know you better."

"Great," I said, turning to hide my tears. "One big happy family."

We drove home that night, but I slammed the bedroom door when we got there, snapping, "Sleep by yourself!" I needn't have bothered. That night marked the first of many Tim and I spent apart, though for reasons I still don't understand, I couldn't bring myself to ask whether he really wanted to end the marriage, and he never said.

As soon as he finished working, Tim would rush straight to the center to recruit for Lifespring. It didn't take him long to enroll four new people, some of them clients, and to qualify for Leadership Training. Lifespring members called at all hours, checking on his enrollment performance. There was talk that Tim could really move up in Lifespring. He loved the attention.

Lisa called one day to tell me she and Dave had finished Advanced and were ready for more training. "Don't you love Lifespring?" she bubbled.

Love Lifespring? My marriage and my life had deteriorated drastically over the last two months. I'd all but dropped golf and lost 15 pounds and all my self-confidence. When Tim and I did talk, he said he'd never felt more complete. My unhappiness, he said, was of my creation. And in light of his popularity at Lifespring, it was easier to think something was wrong with me than to face the truth. I stayed sane by focusing on my kids.

On Christmas Eve we loaded the car with presents for a celebration at my parents' house. But at the last minute Tim announced he wasn't coming: "I'd rather be with friends." I drove away, determined not to spoil the kids' holiday.

It was raining hard. I inched along but suddenly, on a hill, I lost control and planed across five lanes of highway. I desperately tried to steer the car, but we were heading for the center divider. Just before we crashed, I closed my eyes and prayed, "I want to live!"

And in that second I knew that I could not-would not-let what was happening with Tim break my spirit.

Miraculously, no one was hurt. The police took us to a fast-food restaurant, where I called Tim and told him we'd had an accident.

"That figures," he said. "But there are no accidents. You wanted this to happen, so you handle it."

I hung up and motioned for the police to leave. "Someone's coming for us," I lied. Then I broke down, sobbing. It was the last thing I expected to be doing Christmas Eve-eating french fries with two children at a highway restaurant,

But we were alive. And I knew what I had to do. Let go.

When Tim finally came home late that night, all he did was rant about the cost of fixing the car. After the kids were asleep, I confronted him about our marriage. "I'm still here, aren't I?" he said. "Isn't that good enough for now? I don't want to make any decisions until after Leadership Training."

"Lifespring is not our life," I said, the anger finally welling up. "Our life is here, in this home. But you don't care about anyone but yourself and Lifespring!"

I stayed up all night, summoning the courage that I knew I'd need.

On Christmas morning, before the children awoke, I told Tim to leave: "You don't deserve me."

Tim smiled: "That's fine with me. I'm on my way out."

"What about the kids?"

He stopped, and for a moment I detected remorse. "Tell them this just wasn't right for me. You'll handle it."

After the holidays I felt disconnected. I wanted to return to the life I'd led before Lifespring, but that wasn't possible. Tim was living at his father's, giving me money to cover the expenses. So much had changed, I couldn't even call old friends-they'd never understand. Instead I spent much of my time screening my calls, trying to avoid the daily-sometimes hourly pressure from Lifespring recruiters to continue my training.

One day Tim called to urge me to sign up. "You may not believe this, but I really do care," he said. His voice sounded softer, more like the Tim I loved. "I think it would be good for us to do this -together."

Did he really think there was hope? It seemed hard to believe. I struggled to maintain my resolve. "We need to sit down and talk about legalizing our separation," I said.

"Let's wait until Leadership is over. It won't do us any good to rush. And maybe we'll still end up together."

I teetered. Perhaps I had been rash. Were a few bad months worth dumping a six-year marriage? And so I rationalized my way back into Tim's life and signed up. Somewhere deep in my soul, I knew I was out of control.

THE BELLY OF THE BEAST

Now, with my first Leadership meeting, I was on the inside of Lifespring. The center was set up like a telethon, with phones and directories crammed everywhere, and staffers working hour after hour soliciting enrollments. The air was thick with competition.

Lifespring, I discovered, works as a kind of pyramid: Those at the bottom receive no pay, but those who "produce" may get a position and salary. We weren't being led toward personal growth. We were there to enroll new members and fatten Lifespring's coffers.

One evening I heard Tim rave about Basic Training to a friend on the phone. Finally I snapped.

"Did you tell him about us?" I exploded. "How it improved our marriage so much that we outgrew it? You're living a lie!"

He just smirked. "How many people have you enrolled?" he said. "If you're so great, prove it."

That was it. I refused to play the game any longer. I began calling old friends and telling them the truth. They were shocked. And upset I hadn't called sooner.

Then I told Tim our marriage was over.

"Good," he said. "I've already spoken to my attorney."

It was a while before I talked to Tim again or let him see the kids. But one day, about eight months into our divorce negotiations, he called to say he wanted to talk about us. I was surprised-in my mind we were a closed subject. But when he showed up at my doorstep, he dropped to his knees, sobbing, "I'm so sorry all this happened. It's killing me to not be with you. Please give me another chance."

I thought my heart had been yanked from my body, the pain was so severe. But I couldn't find even a shred of the love I'd had for this man-there was none. Lifespring had stripped it away. We were like two bones. It was over.

PICKING UP THE PIECES

Today I have custody of the children, and Tim sees them every other weekend. Eventually he too tired of Lifespring's pressure to recruit, and drifted away from the organization. Still, I'm not sure he realizes the extent of the harm done during those months with Lifespring. Where I once saw a strong, confident man, I sometimes see a confused, lonely soul. He got married again, but it didn't last. And although he's working hard and is good with the kids, I know he's still searching for something.

I've become stronger over the past ten years, thanks to friends, family, occasional therapy, my work as an education consultant, and playing golf again. But I've had to do a lot of soul searching to find out what made me such a willing victim. I loved Tim. And wanted my marriage to succeed. I just never dreamed I'd lose myself trying to save it.

Now when I meet someone considering a "personal-growth" course, I tell my story. It's my way of remembering that life is a personal journey-that no person or group has the answers. It's an important lesson. And I learned it well. But at a tremendous cost.

_____________________________________________

HOW LIFESPRING WORKS

Founded In 1973 by John Hanley, Lifespring claims to have trained more than 400,000 people through its ten centers across the country. Like many "personal growth" groups, it counts on the fact that most people are impatient to learn about themselves and will do almost anything to speed up the process of self-discovery, including spending a lot of money for "secret" strategies. "Cults like Lifespring are like a psychological prison: What they do is narrow your world," says Marcia Rudin, director of the International Cult Education Program, "You leave friends and destroy relationships for a false high."

There have been at least 30 lawsuits against Lifespring, alleging everything from emotional damage to death. According to Gerald F. Ragland Jr., an attorney In Alexandria, Virginia, in 1984 a Philadelphia jury awarded $800,000 to a client of his whom was hospitalized with mental problems after her Lifespring training. In 1992 a jury in Washington, D.C., awarded $300,000 to a young lawyer who was hospitalized for a mental breakdown five days after training. Yet according to Pittsburgh lawyer Peter N. Georgiades, its more common for cases against Lifespring to be settled out of court In 1982 the family of a man who leaped from a four-story holding following a five-day Lifespring training session settled out of court for an undisclosed sum. And In 1993 Georgiades won a $750,000 settlement for a Lifespring trainee who was institutionalized for two years following Leadership training.

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« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2005, 11:37:00 PM »
my work as an EDUCATION CONSULTANT???
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« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2005, 12:01:00 AM »
That's a legit professional title for ppl who get paid consulting fees to assess schools and make recomendations for improvement. Linda Taylor is one http://www.lewrockwell.com/taylor/taylor-arch.html

You'd have to check to find out which kind this author is.

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« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2005, 12:36:00 AM »
Yes, a lot of education consultants also specialize in referring prospective students to the right colleges or universities.

It would be like assuming that all lawyers are trial lawyers, but there are real-estate lawyers, patent lawyers, etc. etc.
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« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2005, 02:35:00 AM »
David Gilcrease was a Lifespring facilitator. Lifespring = Premier Education/Resource Realizations. And, yes, WWASPS is a cult.
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« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2005, 12:22:00 PM »
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On 2005-12-12 21:36:00, sorry... try another castle wrote:

It would be like assuming that all lawyers are trial lawyers, but there are real-estate lawyers, patent lawyers, etc. etc.


I think it's more like the way Miller Newton uses "Dr." as a title (why, he does hold a PhD in social anthropology, ya know) and lets people assume he's some kind of psychiatrist or something.

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« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2005, 02:36:00 PM »
If her husband can be programmed in 4 days... think what it will do to an adolescent locked up for years.  :eek:
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« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2005, 08:51:00 PM »
it's a trip how much Lifespring seminar sounds like a WWASP seminar! so aparently then gilcrease was a freak like this husband... who would send their children to someone like that?  :???:
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it's a trip how much Lifespring seminar sounds like a WWASP seminar!

Yeah, it's pretty much the same thing... the theme music from 2001, "There are no accidents", "Based on the results you got what you intended". It's all the same bullshit.

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so aparently then gilcrease was a freak like this husband... who would send their children to someone like that?  :???: "


Someone who is either stupid, ignorant, uncaring or indifferent. Or too desperate to mind.
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« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2005, 11:29:00 AM »
Feb 1998
THE MARATHON WORKSHOP
(and its value as a counseling tool in emotional growth schools)
by: Linda Shaffer, Ed. Consultant
Sandpoint, Idaho
208-263-8394

All emotional growth schools are not alike! In their counseling tools, nineteen among the more well-known schools use a tool the others do not, the Interactive or Marathon-Like Workshop.

In most emotional growth schools it is standard practice to utilize the group session process 2 to 3 times a week with feedback among peers as a major counseling tool ? all guided by the staff facilitators. Individual counseling also is implemented on a regular basis with an assigned therapist. The more informal version of this style of counseling is the ride in the pick-up truck or the walk down to the pond or the farm.

Not every school, however, utilizes the Interactive or Marathon-Like Workshop. I find in assisting families that some are open to this counseling style for their children and for themselves (in the parent workshops). And, some prefer to participate only in the more private one on one family counseling sessions a school may offer.

Those schools who Do Use these workshops are: Cascade School, Whitmore, CA
Mount Bachelor Academy, Prineville, OR
Swift River Academy, Cummington, MA
Hidden Lake Academy, Dahlonega, GA
Crater Lake School, Sprague River, OR
CEDU Schools, CA and ID
Spring Ridge Academy, Spring Valley, AZ
Cross Creek Manor, LaVerkin, UT
Paradise Cove, Apia, W. Samoa
Tranquility Bay, Mandeville, Jamaica
Spring Creek Lodge, Thompson Falls, MT
Copper Canyon Academy, Camp Verde, AZ
And for the over 18 year old students ? Northstar, Bend, OR and Benchmark, Redding, CA

Two other schools considering implementing the Interactive Workshop are Aspen Ranch in Loa, Utah and Montana Academy in Marion, Montana.

Why do these schools choose to use the workshop tool? In my visits to schools, talking with students and speaking with parents, I hear very frequently ?and those workshops were pretty Incredible. I really learned a lot about myself. They were so very creative....not always easy, but I hadn?t felt some of those feelings for SO long!?

In my experience with the schools that offer this additional counseling component, I see this process as a most creative way to reach adolescents who are frightened, well guarded, and especially clever with their deflecting and avoidance skills. This type of workshop with its various exercises seems to step into the emotional life of a young person at a level that, for some, is difficult to reach in any other way. The key, I believe, is delivering the workshop with Care and Skill.

Various Components of these interactive workshops include psychodrama, role playing, dads, bioenergetics, creative visualization exercises, supportive music, and various types of ?stretch? exercises to take one outside one?s comfort zone.

Students in the interactive workshop often are excited about them because they indicate Points Of Passage within their school and their goal of getting ?to the top of the mountain? and completing all the workshops. The workshops generally follow child growth and development all over again as espoused by Erik Erikson. Students recall their perceptions of events from childhood that may affect their present day thinking and feelings. They get to see some of their ?truths? instead of the masks and confusion they wear. They get an opportunity to look at ?who are their real friends?. They review goals, images, Talents and passions, and in finding dreams again learn how to construct a healthy base under those dreams.

The workshops are diverse. They are filled with playfulness. There is laughter, sadness, anger, remembering, Not Wanting To Remember, learning to Trust through initiatives, and fearing to trust in the workshops (and in life). The workshops can build a closeness among participants. Individuals can choose to be vulnerable, outrageous, tender, and connect with one?s loving self. There are moments of wanting the workshop to be over, and moments of not wanting the feelings of the workshop to ever end.

Students Want to be in these workshops and at the same time, They Don?t. The energy, excitement, anxiety, And Completion of the workshop become markers along the way toward graduation from ?the program,? as well as in growing up. Students see their peers ahead of them finish a workshop and tell the rest of the school in a rewelcoming back to the school gathering that they learned ?I am a good friend,? ?I have a lot to offer the world,? ?I am a caring person,? ?I Love My Family Deeply,? and so on. All this from children who may have acted in direct opposition to this in the past. Moments of insight are gained through play, introspection, and trust on a safe ?Island? called a workshop or seminar, where one can feel and practice a few miles away from real life.

Parents who attend the workshops designed specifically for parents often make statements such as ?there is no place in my daily life where I am so honest about how I feel as I am when I?m here.? I?ve heard others say during a break time, ?you know parts of this are Not Easy, But it feels so good to feel and to let myself go into areas I usually shut away. I?m feeling more alive.? And sometimes with a smile, and maybe a little run mascara from a previous exercise, some will say ?what are you going to do to us after lunch??

Some parents acknowledge something they say they Never Thought they would ? ?I am glad my child?s behavior came to a head finally because it was enough for us to make this kind of a decision; our whole family has grown from the experience. If my child?s acting out behavior had been somewhat less we probably would not have enrolled him/her and would have gone on bumping along dragging around Baggage for who knows how long.? When I see the Sparkle in the Eyes of students who have experienced these workshops, I know they have learned something about their true selves in a way that was very challenging ? and they feel proud to have taken on the challenge and ?done it!? One program I visited had two workshop staff moving on to other schools and the students were So Worried they might not get to continue the process. Another young man, finishing two workshops of this sort at a school asked me where he could go later in an over 18 year old program and continue this process. He so wanted to continue the workshop insights, care, intimacy, and friendship that had lovingly pushed him through doorways he had, at first, been incredibly fearful of going through.

Where did these workshops come from? From creative minds. They came from often controversial influences and beginnings ? Synanon, Lifespring, est, ? out of the ?60?s ? and from many of the earliest creative innovators in the mental health field. Through years of evolution, and years of individual creativity in adapting these workshops to adolescents, came ?workshops? and ?seminars?. I see them, if designed with care and sensitivity to the individual, as benefiting anyone ? but, especially the frightened and refusing child, the counseling savvy/issue dodging child who knows what to say, and the intellectual child who tries at all costs to not touch upon feelings.

Training for the originators of today?s workshops often involved participation themselves in some earlier workshops in Their Own Growth Process and, thus, redesigning these workshops for their own schools. Some have established companies that offer various versions of these workshops today for Corporate America and also design special programs for emotional growth schools.

I would suggest the spread of these workshops in the emotional growth school setting says something about the insights and results for participants. And after all, isn?t that what it?s all about - Results Education, both academic and emotional.

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Mount Bachelor Academy, Prineville, OR

Swift River Academy, Cummington, MA

Hidden Lake Academy, Dahlonega, GA

Crater Lake School, Sprague River, OR

CEDU Schools, CA and ID

Spring Ridge Academy, Spring Valley, AZ

Cross Creek Manor, LaVerkin, UT

Paradise Cove, Apia, W. Samoa

Tranquility Bay, Mandeville, Jamaica

Spring Creek Lodge, Thompson Falls, MT

Copper Canyon Academy, Camp Verde, AZ

And for the over 18 year old students ? Northstar, Bend, OR and Benchmark, Redding, CA



Two other schools considering implementing the Interactive Workshop are Aspen Ranch in Loa, Utah and Montana Academy in Marion, Montana.


That's a list of schools which must be avoided at all costs.
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"Feb 1998

THE MARATHON WORKSHOP

(and its value as a counseling tool in emotional growth schools)

by: Linda Shaffer, Ed. Consultant

Sandpoint, Idaho

208-263-8394



All emotional growth schools are not alike! In their counseling tools, nineteen among the more well-known schools use a tool the others do not, the Interactive or Marathon-Like Workshop.



In most emotional growth schools it is standard practice to utilize the group session process 2 to 3 times a week with feedback among peers as a major counseling tool ? all guided by the staff facilitators. Individual counseling also is implemented on a regular basis with an assigned therapist. The more informal version of this style of counseling is the ride in the pick-up truck or the walk down to the pond or the farm.



Not every school, however, utilizes the Interactive or Marathon-Like Workshop. I find in assisting families that some are open to this counseling style for their children and for themselves (in the parent workshops). And, some prefer to participate only in the more private one on one family counseling sessions a school may offer.



Those schools who Do Use these workshops are: Cascade School, Whitmore, CA

Mount Bachelor Academy, Prineville, OR

Swift River Academy, Cummington, MA

Hidden Lake Academy, Dahlonega, GA

Crater Lake School, Sprague River, OR

CEDU Schools, CA and ID

Spring Ridge Academy, Spring Valley, AZ

Cross Creek Manor, LaVerkin, UT

Paradise Cove, Apia, W. Samoa

Tranquility Bay, Mandeville, Jamaica

Spring Creek Lodge, Thompson Falls, MT

Copper Canyon Academy, Camp Verde, AZ

And for the over 18 year old students ? Northstar, Bend, OR and Benchmark, Redding, CA



Two other schools considering implementing the Interactive Workshop are Aspen Ranch in Loa, Utah and Montana Academy in Marion, Montana.



Why do these schools choose to use the workshop tool? In my visits to schools, talking with students and speaking with parents, I hear very frequently ?and those workshops were pretty Incredible. I really learned a lot about myself. They were so very creative....not always easy, but I hadn?t felt some of those feelings for SO long!?



In my experience with the schools that offer this additional counseling component, I see this process as a most creative way to reach adolescents who are frightened, well guarded, and especially clever with their deflecting and avoidance skills. This type of workshop with its various exercises seems to step into the emotional life of a young person at a level that, for some, is difficult to reach in any other way. The key, I believe, is delivering the workshop with Care and Skill.



Various Components of these interactive workshops include psychodrama, role playing, dads, bioenergetics, creative visualization exercises, supportive music, and various types of ?stretch? exercises to take one outside one?s comfort zone.



Students in the interactive workshop often are excited about them because they indicate Points Of Passage within their school and their goal of getting ?to the top of the mountain? and completing all the workshops. The workshops generally follow child growth and development all over again as espoused by Erik Erikson. Students recall their perceptions of events from childhood that may affect their present day thinking and feelings. They get to see some of their ?truths? instead of the masks and confusion they wear. They get an opportunity to look at ?who are their real friends?. They review goals, images, Talents and passions, and in finding dreams again learn how to construct a healthy base under those dreams.



The workshops are diverse. They are filled with playfulness. There is laughter, sadness, anger, remembering, Not Wanting To Remember, learning to Trust through initiatives, and fearing to trust in the workshops (and in life). The workshops can build a closeness among participants. Individuals can choose to be vulnerable, outrageous, tender, and connect with one?s loving self. There are moments of wanting the workshop to be over, and moments of not wanting the feelings of the workshop to ever end.



Students Want to be in these workshops and at the same time, They Don?t. The energy, excitement, anxiety, And Completion of the workshop become markers along the way toward graduation from ?the program,? as well as in growing up. Students see their peers ahead of them finish a workshop and tell the rest of the school in a rewelcoming back to the school gathering that they learned ?I am a good friend,? ?I have a lot to offer the world,? ?I am a caring person,? ?I Love My Family Deeply,? and so on. All this from children who may have acted in direct opposition to this in the past. Moments of insight are gained through play, introspection, and trust on a safe ?Island? called a workshop or seminar, where one can feel and practice a few miles away from real life.



Parents who attend the workshops designed specifically for parents often make statements such as ?there is no place in my daily life where I am so honest about how I feel as I am when I?m here.? I?ve heard others say during a break time, ?you know parts of this are Not Easy, But it feels so good to feel and to let myself go into areas I usually shut away. I?m feeling more alive.? And sometimes with a smile, and maybe a little run mascara from a previous exercise, some will say ?what are you going to do to us after lunch??



Some parents acknowledge something they say they Never Thought they would ? ?I am glad my child?s behavior came to a head finally because it was enough for us to make this kind of a decision; our whole family has grown from the experience. If my child?s acting out behavior had been somewhat less we probably would not have enrolled him/her and would have gone on bumping along dragging around Baggage for who knows how long.? When I see the Sparkle in the Eyes of students who have experienced these workshops, I know they have learned something about their true selves in a way that was very challenging ? and they feel proud to have taken on the challenge and ?done it!? One program I visited had two workshop staff moving on to other schools and the students were So Worried they might not get to continue the process. Another young man, finishing two workshops of this sort at a school asked me where he could go later in an over 18 year old program and continue this process. He so wanted to continue the workshop insights, care, intimacy, and friendship that had lovingly pushed him through doorways he had, at first, been incredibly fearful of going through.



Where did these workshops come from? From creative minds. They came from often controversial influences and beginnings ? Synanon, Lifespring, est, ? out of the ?60?s ? and from many of the earliest creative innovators in the mental health field. Through years of evolution, and years of individual creativity in adapting these workshops to adolescents, came ?workshops? and ?seminars?. I see them, if designed with care and sensitivity to the individual, as benefiting anyone ? but, especially the frightened and refusing child, the counseling savvy/issue dodging child who knows what to say, and the intellectual child who tries at all costs to not touch upon feelings.



Training for the originators of today?s workshops often involved participation themselves in some earlier workshops in Their Own Growth Process and, thus, redesigning these workshops for their own schools. Some have established companies that offer various versions of these workshops today for Corporate America and also design special programs for emotional growth schools.



I would suggest the spread of these workshops in the emotional growth school setting says something about the insights and results for participants. And after all, isn?t that what it?s all about - Results Education, both academic and emotional.



Copyright © 1998, Woodbury Reports, Inc. (This article may be reproduced without prior approval if the copyright notice and proper publication and author attribution accompanies the copy.)

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This is a complete JOKE.  It's a one dimensional advertising piece written by someone who gets PAID to refer to these EG (BM) programs.

Please cite a STUDY from a CREDIBLE SOURCE.  Still waiting to see some real evidence.
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« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2005, 08:14:00 AM »
Haha, my family walked out on those crackpot workshops after a few hours.  

I wish I could have done the same.
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On 2005-12-17 08:39:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2005-12-17 08:29:00, Anonymous wrote:


"Feb 1998


THE MARATHON WORKSHOP


(and its value as a counseling tool in emotional growth schools)


by: Linda Shaffer, Ed. Consultant


Sandpoint, Idaho


208-263-8394





All emotional growth schools are not alike! In their counseling tools, nineteen among the more well-known schools use a tool the others do not, the Interactive or Marathon-Like Workshop.





In most emotional growth schools it is standard practice to utilize the group session process 2 to 3 times a week with feedback among peers as a major counseling tool ? all guided by the staff facilitators. Individual counseling also is implemented on a regular basis with an assigned therapist. The more informal version of this style of counseling is the ride in the pick-up truck or the walk down to the pond or the farm.





Not every school, however, utilizes the Interactive or Marathon-Like Workshop. I find in assisting families that some are open to this counseling style for their children and for themselves (in the parent workshops). And, some prefer to participate only in the more private one on one family counseling sessions a school may offer.





Those schools who Do Use these workshops are: Cascade School, Whitmore, CA


Mount Bachelor Academy, Prineville, OR


Swift River Academy, Cummington, MA


Hidden Lake Academy, Dahlonega, GA


Crater Lake School, Sprague River, OR


CEDU Schools, CA and ID


Spring Ridge Academy, Spring Valley, AZ


Cross Creek Manor, LaVerkin, UT


Paradise Cove, Apia, W. Samoa


Tranquility Bay, Mandeville, Jamaica


Spring Creek Lodge, Thompson Falls, MT


Copper Canyon Academy, Camp Verde, AZ


And for the over 18 year old students ? Northstar, Bend, OR and Benchmark, Redding, CA





Two other schools considering implementing the Interactive Workshop are Aspen Ranch in Loa, Utah and Montana Academy in Marion, Montana.





Why do these schools choose to use the workshop tool? In my visits to schools, talking with students and speaking with parents, I hear very frequently ?and those workshops were pretty Incredible. I really learned a lot about myself. They were so very creative....not always easy, but I hadn?t felt some of those feelings for SO long!?





In my experience with the schools that offer this additional counseling component, I see this process as a most creative way to reach adolescents who are frightened, well guarded, and especially clever with their deflecting and avoidance skills. This type of workshop with its various exercises seems to step into the emotional life of a young person at a level that, for some, is difficult to reach in any other way. The key, I believe, is delivering the workshop with Care and Skill.





Various Components of these interactive workshops include psychodrama, role playing, dads, bioenergetics, creative visualization exercises, supportive music, and various types of ?stretch? exercises to take one outside one?s comfort zone.





Students in the interactive workshop often are excited about them because they indicate Points Of Passage within their school and their goal of getting ?to the top of the mountain? and completing all the workshops. The workshops generally follow child growth and development all over again as espoused by Erik Erikson. Students recall their perceptions of events from childhood that may affect their present day thinking and feelings. They get to see some of their ?truths? instead of the masks and confusion they wear. They get an opportunity to look at ?who are their real friends?. They review goals, images, Talents and passions, and in finding dreams again learn how to construct a healthy base under those dreams.





The workshops are diverse. They are filled with playfulness. There is laughter, sadness, anger, remembering, Not Wanting To Remember, learning to Trust through initiatives, and fearing to trust in the workshops (and in life). The workshops can build a closeness among participants. Individuals can choose to be vulnerable, outrageous, tender, and connect with one?s loving self. There are moments of wanting the workshop to be over, and moments of not wanting the feelings of the workshop to ever end.





Students Want to be in these workshops and at the same time, They Don?t. The energy, excitement, anxiety, And Completion of the workshop become markers along the way toward graduation from ?the program,? as well as in growing up. Students see their peers ahead of them finish a workshop and tell the rest of the school in a rewelcoming back to the school gathering that they learned ?I am a good friend,? ?I have a lot to offer the world,? ?I am a caring person,? ?I Love My Family Deeply,? and so on. All this from children who may have acted in direct opposition to this in the past. Moments of insight are gained through play, introspection, and trust on a safe ?Island? called a workshop or seminar, where one can feel and practice a few miles away from real life.





Parents who attend the workshops designed specifically for parents often make statements such as ?there is no place in my daily life where I am so honest about how I feel as I am when I?m here.? I?ve heard others say during a break time, ?you know parts of this are Not Easy, But it feels so good to feel and to let myself go into areas I usually shut away. I?m feeling more alive.? And sometimes with a smile, and maybe a little run mascara from a previous exercise, some will say ?what are you going to do to us after lunch??





Some parents acknowledge something they say they Never Thought they would ? ?I am glad my child?s behavior came to a head finally because it was enough for us to make this kind of a decision; our whole family has grown from the experience. If my child?s acting out behavior had been somewhat less we probably would not have enrolled him/her and would have gone on bumping along dragging around Baggage for who knows how long.? When I see the Sparkle in the Eyes of students who have experienced these workshops, I know they have learned something about their true selves in a way that was very challenging ? and they feel proud to have taken on the challenge and ?done it!? One program I visited had two workshop staff moving on to other schools and the students were So Worried they might not get to continue the process. Another young man, finishing two workshops of this sort at a school asked me where he could go later in an over 18 year old program and continue this process. He so wanted to continue the workshop insights, care, intimacy, and friendship that had lovingly pushed him through doorways he had, at first, been incredibly fearful of going through.





Where did these workshops come from? From creative minds. They came from often controversial influences and beginnings ? Synanon, Lifespring, est, ? out of the ?60?s ? and from many of the earliest creative innovators in the mental health field. Through years of evolution, and years of individual creativity in adapting these workshops to adolescents, came ?workshops? and ?seminars?. I see them, if designed with care and sensitivity to the individual, as benefiting anyone ? but, especially the frightened and refusing child, the counseling savvy/issue dodging child who knows what to say, and the intellectual child who tries at all costs to not touch upon feelings.





Training for the originators of today?s workshops often involved participation themselves in some earlier workshops in Their Own Growth Process and, thus, redesigning these workshops for their own schools. Some have established companies that offer various versions of these workshops today for Corporate America and also design special programs for emotional growth schools.





I would suggest the spread of these workshops in the emotional growth school setting says something about the insights and results for participants. And after all, isn?t that what it?s all about - Results Education, both academic and emotional.





Copyright © 1998, Woodbury Reports, Inc. (This article may be reproduced without prior approval if the copyright notice and proper publication and author attribution accompanies the copy.)


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This is a complete JOKE.  It's a one dimensional advertising piece written by someone who gets PAID to refer to these EG (BM) programs.



Please cite a STUDY from a CREDIBLE SOURCE.  Still waiting to see some real evidence."
Hello -- I have attended and know of a few people who did well by these programs.  I am not aware of any studies that have been made to support the benefits or down falls of these programs.  I am sure like anything else that they are not for everyone.
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On 2005-12-17 08:39:00, Anonymous wrote:


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On 2005-12-17 08:29:00, Anonymous wrote:



"Feb 1998



THE MARATHON WORKSHOP



(and its value as a counseling tool in emotional growth schools)



by: Linda Shaffer, Ed. Consultant



Sandpoint, Idaho



208-263-8394







All emotional growth schools are not alike! In their counseling tools, nineteen among the more well-known schools use a tool the others do not, the Interactive or Marathon-Like Workshop.







In most emotional growth schools it is standard practice to utilize the group session process 2 to 3 times a week with feedback among peers as a major counseling tool ? all guided by the staff facilitators. Individual counseling also is implemented on a regular basis with an assigned therapist. The more informal version of this style of counseling is the ride in the pick-up truck or the walk down to the pond or the farm.







Not every school, however, utilizes the Interactive or Marathon-Like Workshop. I find in assisting families that some are open to this counseling style for their children and for themselves (in the parent workshops). And, some prefer to participate only in the more private one on one family counseling sessions a school may offer.







Those schools who Do Use these workshops are: Cascade School, Whitmore, CA



Mount Bachelor Academy, Prineville, OR



Swift River Academy, Cummington, MA



Hidden Lake Academy, Dahlonega, GA



Crater Lake School, Sprague River, OR



CEDU Schools, CA and ID



Spring Ridge Academy, Spring Valley, AZ



Cross Creek Manor, LaVerkin, UT



Paradise Cove, Apia, W. Samoa



Tranquility Bay, Mandeville, Jamaica



Spring Creek Lodge, Thompson Falls, MT



Copper Canyon Academy, Camp Verde, AZ



And for the over 18 year old students ? Northstar, Bend, OR and Benchmark, Redding, CA







Two other schools considering implementing the Interactive Workshop are Aspen Ranch in Loa, Utah and Montana Academy in Marion, Montana.







Why do these schools choose to use the workshop tool? In my visits to schools, talking with students and speaking with parents, I hear very frequently ?and those workshops were pretty Incredible. I really learned a lot about myself. They were so very creative....not always easy, but I hadn?t felt some of those feelings for SO long!?







In my experience with the schools that offer this additional counseling component, I see this process as a most creative way to reach adolescents who are frightened, well guarded, and especially clever with their deflecting and avoidance skills. This type of workshop with its various exercises seems to step into the emotional life of a young person at a level that, for some, is difficult to reach in any other way. The key, I believe, is delivering the workshop with Care and Skill.







Various Components of these interactive workshops include psychodrama, role playing, dads, bioenergetics, creative visualization exercises, supportive music, and various types of ?stretch? exercises to take one outside one?s comfort zone.







Students in the interactive workshop often are excited about them because they indicate Points Of Passage within their school and their goal of getting ?to the top of the mountain? and completing all the workshops. The workshops generally follow child growth and development all over again as espoused by Erik Erikson. Students recall their perceptions of events from childhood that may affect their present day thinking and feelings. They get to see some of their ?truths? instead of the masks and confusion they wear. They get an opportunity to look at ?who are their real friends?. They review goals, images, Talents and passions, and in finding dreams again learn how to construct a healthy base under those dreams.







The workshops are diverse. They are filled with playfulness. There is laughter, sadness, anger, remembering, Not Wanting To Remember, learning to Trust through initiatives, and fearing to trust in the workshops (and in life). The workshops can build a closeness among participants. Individuals can choose to be vulnerable, outrageous, tender, and connect with one?s loving self. There are moments of wanting the workshop to be over, and moments of not wanting the feelings of the workshop to ever end.







Students Want to be in these workshops and at the same time, They Don?t. The energy, excitement, anxiety, And Completion of the workshop become markers along the way toward graduation from ?the program,? as well as in growing up. Students see their peers ahead of them finish a workshop and tell the rest of the school in a rewelcoming back to the school gathering that they learned ?I am a good friend,? ?I have a lot to offer the world,? ?I am a caring person,? ?I Love My Family Deeply,? and so on. All this from children who may have acted in direct opposition to this in the past. Moments of insight are gained through play, introspection, and trust on a safe ?Island? called a workshop or seminar, where one can feel and practice a few miles away from real life.







Parents who attend the workshops designed specifically for parents often make statements such as ?there is no place in my daily life where I am so honest about how I feel as I am when I?m here.? I?ve heard others say during a break time, ?you know parts of this are Not Easy, But it feels so good to feel and to let myself go into areas I usually shut away. I?m feeling more alive.? And sometimes with a smile, and maybe a little run mascara from a previous exercise, some will say ?what are you going to do to us after lunch??







Some parents acknowledge something they say they Never Thought they would ? ?I am glad my child?s behavior came to a head finally because it was enough for us to make this kind of a decision; our whole family has grown from the experience. If my child?s acting out behavior had been somewhat less we probably would not have enrolled him/her and would have gone on bumping along dragging around Baggage for who knows how long.? When I see the Sparkle in the Eyes of students who have experienced these workshops, I know they have learned something about their true selves in a way that was very challenging ? and they feel proud to have taken on the challenge and ?done it!? One program I visited had two workshop staff moving on to other schools and the students were So Worried they might not get to continue the process. Another young man, finishing two workshops of this sort at a school asked me where he could go later in an over 18 year old program and continue this process. He so wanted to continue the workshop insights, care, intimacy, and friendship that had lovingly pushed him through doorways he had, at first, been incredibly fearful of going through.







Where did these workshops come from? From creative minds. They came from often controversial influences and beginnings ? Synanon, Lifespring, est, ? out of the ?60?s ? and from many of the earliest creative innovators in the mental health field. Through years of evolution, and years of individual creativity in adapting these workshops to adolescents, came ?workshops? and ?seminars?. I see them, if designed with care and sensitivity to the individual, as benefiting anyone ? but, especially the frightened and refusing child, the counseling savvy/issue dodging child who knows what to say, and the intellectual child who tries at all costs to not touch upon feelings.







Training for the originators of today?s workshops often involved participation themselves in some earlier workshops in Their Own Growth Process and, thus, redesigning these workshops for their own schools. Some have established companies that offer various versions of these workshops today for Corporate America and also design special programs for emotional growth schools.







I would suggest the spread of these workshops in the emotional growth school setting says something about the insights and results for participants. And after all, isn?t that what it?s all about - Results Education, both academic and emotional.







Copyright © 1998, Woodbury Reports, Inc. (This article may be reproduced without prior approval if the copyright notice and proper publication and author attribution accompanies the copy.)



"







This is a complete JOKE.  It's a one dimensional advertising piece written by someone who gets PAID to refer to these EG (BM) programs.





Please cite a STUDY from a CREDIBLE SOURCE.  Still waiting to see some real evidence."

Hello -- I have attended and know of a few people who did well by these programs.  I am not aware of any studies that have been made to support the benefits or down falls of these programs.  I am sure like anything else that they are not for everyone."


LGAT's combined with BM are shown not to work and actually increase juvenile delinquency.

I think what you meant to say was "I haven't looked for any evidence..." because there is PLENTY of it out there.

Look up LGAT (the seminars these places use) and you'll see how damaging it is.  If you actually RESEARCHED then denied that LGAT's are harmful, then you're a liar.  Right now you're just ignorant, but you can correct that thru research.
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