kerry,
just what exactly did u have problems with? and if it was not abusive then what was it?
btw- i have some legislative thing i'm involved in if you're interested- legit people, shrinks held in high regard and their respective organizations. From what they have heard about this industry and MMS they have expressed to me that their methods are highly suspect especially given they are not based on any methods that has been written for peer review, documented as effective nor scrutinized by professionals.
Abuse? I guess it's all up to the individual. I am glad you have concluded you were not abuse, that must be a big relief for you. I guess some of us weren't as lucky. Regardless, as you have said, there were things that were worthy of disagreement...as the PhD's have said to me- we received less rights than juvenile delinquents- this is one problem. Among the long list of complaints you and I have spoken about I would say that taking away rights may be construed as abuse- but to each his own definition.
I know your stressed- returning to MMS for the reunion after having posted and stated quite angrily all you have I would imagine you are a ball of nerves and anxious to get in J and C's good graces, I don't blame you- but I know my experiences and heard what you have said previously and, now that I understand what shrinks hold as legitamate methods of therapy I feel even more confident about what I've said and that I'm not some disgruntled alumni- I stand my ground firmly and wonder why coincidently you have had such a strong change of heart when you spoke loudly and clearly before?
In anycase- maybe you should talk to John about why he lobbied so strongly against regulation (esp since you are so pro regulation) and why there is such strong opposition growing among actual experts. I would be curious to know. No one is saying, well, at least I'm not and I don't think the experts are saying that these places need to be shut down, but from what I gather and from what I have been told these programs need to be run quite differently and held to a much higher set of standards, like maybe follow basic standards of ethics. For instance the labor thing, as mentioned above and we have spoken about is up there on the list of things that are most certainly cause for concern. So this is a very exciting time and would be cool for you to be a part of it.
wishing u the best,
kat
[ This Message was edited by: katfish on 2005-08-10 16:00 ]