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« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2003, 11:44:00 AM »
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« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2003, 03:54:00 PM »
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On 2003-11-01 02:27:00, animals all of us wrote:

When you have to put a fucking vibrator to your damn throat so people can half understand your fuckin robotic go-bot transformer voice; say to yourself 'I am not a drunk'.


Oh, that's too fucking funny! That was my grandfather, Haines or "E.H." as he like to call himself. He was one of the original steppers, a professional alcoholic and proud owner of one of those camel saddle trophies from the early days of the European invasion of Palestine. And he had one of those bandaid collored vibrators and wore a little baby bib over the hole in his throat so people wouldn't get all grossed out by the phlegm sloshing around inside. It was hillarious to hear him try and yell at sombody in that voice.

But he was not a drunk! No! He was in AA!

If people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny.
http://laissezfairebooks.com/product.cfm?op=view&pid=FF7485&aid=10247' target='_new'>Thomas Jefferson

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« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2003, 03:57:00 PM »
Kady, just wait. When tobacco is fully illegal, it'll be around $100/oz just like pot is now. People will be killing, fighting, stealing, snitching and all the rest over the shit.

The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.
--Hermann Goering, Luftwaffe commander, sentenced to death at Nuremberg

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« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2003, 05:14:00 PM »
It's all too publicized.  
But abuse is Always covered up.
My point exactly.
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« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2003, 08:56:00 AM »
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"Kady, just wait. When tobacco is fully illegal, it'll be around $100/oz just like pot is now. People will be killing, fighting, stealing, snitching and all the rest over the shit.


It will probably make pot look cheap by comparason. Smoking was the hardest thing I ever stopped doing. Ureal hard!

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« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2003, 02:38:00 PM »
The sentence about waking up screaming should tell you that what they did to you in Straight wasn't right. Please get a good therapist that wil help you. A psychoanalytic one, NOT a behavior, cognitive therapist. The 12 steps only teach someone to repress further the experiences that have shaped their lives.  Beating yourself up by admitting you are powerless is the most horrendous thing I've heard of. God why were you in Straight if you didn't drug!!!  You have been traumatized and have Post traumatic stress disorder just like anyone who has gone through an horrendous trauma.   Take care
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« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2003, 03:41:00 PM »
"psychoanalytic one, NOT a behavior, cognitive therapist" how can I tell the difference by my  health plan information, besides the obvious and calling each one prior to meeting?  Also, I said I didn't have a drug problem, not that I never tried drugs.  Big difference.
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« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2003, 03:43:00 PM »
Sadly it is common that people were in straight w/out doing drugs they would just say that they were "exhibiting the behavior" and they were just getting to the problem prior to the use beinging.

BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!  :flame:  :flame:  :flame:

Even on the Straights.com there is an article about a girl being in my Boston-straight for sniffing a friggin magic marker. Oh shit get the methadone!!! Assholes and I bitter why???

No laws, however stringent, can make the idle industrious, the thriftless provident, or the drunken sober
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« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2003, 03:45:00 PM »
behavioral therapist treat just behaviors

cognitive just thoughts
you need anaylisis do uncover all the deep sinister shit straight did to fuck you up.

But this is far from demonstrating that the authorities must interpose to suppress these vices by commercial prohibitions, nor is it by any means evident that such intervention on the part of the government is really capable of suppressing them or that, even if this end could be attained, it might not therewith open up a Pandora's box of other dangers, no less mischievous than alcoholism and morphinism.
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« Reply #24 on: November 04, 2003, 03:47:00 PM »
3rd post in a row you can ask them and you wouldn't be in therapy for drugs you would be in therapy for your drug treatment program how wrong is that! it is probably PTSD post traumatic stress disorder

If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be.

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« Reply #25 on: November 04, 2003, 05:00:00 PM »
I don't think that's the only answer, Kady. The best advice I ever got when I was tweaking out was to relax, be glad it's over and come out and play with normal folk. Sometimes the best thing to do is to focus on non-problems and let your subconcious sort out the messy details. Other times, the best thing is to find the answers to your questions. It's up to the person experiencing the problems to decide which (or some other) course will be most helpful.

He that lives upon hope will die fasting
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« Reply #26 on: November 04, 2003, 09:48:00 PM »
relax  :eek:


shit Ginger! Look who you are talking to (enter crazy laughter fire up the bbq grill)

Necessity never made a good bargain
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