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« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2010, 09:42:26 PM »
Reading through the article I don’t think Goldberg would come out and say that Isreal halted Iraq’s “Nuclear Ambitions” (in 1981).  Goldberg, like everyone else,  wanted to keep the pressure on in 1981.  Everyone thought that Saddam would turn around and start to rebuild the program.  who wouldn’t?  Maybe he did try.  Saddam let on himself that he had weapons of mass destruction when he started playing games with the inspectors in 2002 and denying access to facilities and moving equipment around.
After we found out that Saddam didn’t have any Nuclear arms then it could be determined that Israel’s strike in 1981 actually did permanently halted Saddams nuclear ambitions.  So the strike in 1981 was the right thing to do and was successful.

I am surprised that Isreal didn’t attack Irans facilities this year.  The US isn’t worried because Iran really cant reach us.  But if, say, Canada made a statement to the UN that they thought the United States should be blown off the face of the earth and then proceeded to build a Nuclear weapons program we would have halted their asses in a heartbeat, we all know this.

If I were living in Isreal I would not be sleeping too well at night a year from now.



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« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2010, 10:05:51 PM »
Reuben, how many liars does it take to bury one person who doesn't hew to the Zionist propaganda line?
"Saddam Hussein never gave up his hope of turning Iraq into a nuclear power. After the Osirak attack, he rebuilt, redoubled his efforts, and dispersed his facilities. Those who have followed Saddam's progress believe that no single strike today would eradicate his nuclear program."
http://www.jeffreygoldberg.net/articles ... _great.php
"Israel has twice before successfully attacked and destroyed an enemy's nuclear program. In 1981, Israeli warplanes bombed the Iraqi reactor at Osirak, halting -- forever, as it turned out -- Saddam Hussein's nuclear ambitions; and in 2007, Israeli planes destroyed a North Korean-built reactor in Syria.  An attack on Iran, then, would be unprecedented only in scope and complexity."
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/pri ... turn/8186/

The two statements clearly contradict each other.  If the latter is true, then the former was a lie.  If the former was true, then the latter is a lie.  Take your pick.
Fortunately neither Iran, nor Canada threatened to blow anybody off the map, and neither has a nuclear weapons program.
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"AARC will go on serving youth and families as long as it will be needed, if it keeps open to God for inspiration" Dr. F. Dean Vause Executive Director


MR. NELSON: Mr. Speaker, AADAC has been involved with
assistance in developing the program of the Alberta Adolescent
Recovery Centre since its inception originally as Kids of the
Canadian West."
Alberta Hansard, March 24, 1992

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Re: This Subect Cannot Be Likened to TTI Thought Control
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2010, 10:16:07 PM »
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Reuben, how many liars does it take to bury one person who doesn't hew to the Zionist propaganda line?
"Saddam Hussein never gave up his hope of turning Iraq into a nuclear power. After the Osirak attack, he rebuilt, redoubled his efforts, and dispersed his facilities. Those who have followed Saddam's progress believe that no single strike today would eradicate his nuclear program."
http://www.jeffreygoldberg.net/articles ... _great.php
"Israel has twice before successfully attacked and destroyed an enemy's nuclear program. In 1981, Israeli warplanes bombed the Iraqi reactor at Osirak, halting -- forever, as it turned out -- Saddam Hussein's nuclear ambitions; and in 2007, Israeli planes destroyed a North Korean-built reactor in Syria.  An attack on Iran, then, would be unprecedented only in scope and complexity."
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/pri ... turn/8186/

The two statements clearly contradict each other.  If the latter is true, then the former was a lie.  If the former was true, then the latter is a lie.  Take your pick.
Fortunately neither Iran, nor Canada threatened to blow anybody off the map, and neither has a nuclear weapons program.

lol, How do you know that Saddam gave up hope of turning Iraq into a nuclear power?  No one has established this.  In hindsight it turns out that the strike was successful in 1981.  But back in 1981 if I were a betting man I would think that Iraq was right back at it trying to build back up what was destroyed,  any reasonable person would.  The world didnt know until Iraq fell.

How many people think that Iran is just trying to build cheap electrical power for its people (when they are sitting on all that oil) lol.  If Isreal blew up their facilities they would start building again tomorrow.

The Goldberg statements do not determine he was lying, they are 3 decades apart.  Times change and new information becomes available.  People change their point of view.



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Re: This Subect Cannot Be Likened to TTI Thought Control
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2010, 10:26:23 PM »
Are you totally incapable  of reading comprehension, Reuben?  One article was written in 2002 and one in 2010.  That's the thing I've always wondered about you, whether you are stupid, crazy or just a liar.  I live in Alberta, home of the largest unconventional oil deposits in the world, and companies are bidding to build nukes in the northern part of the province because they're cheaper than burning fossil fuels for steam generation.
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"AARC will go on serving youth and families as long as it will be needed, if it keeps open to God for inspiration" Dr. F. Dean Vause Executive Director


MR. NELSON: Mr. Speaker, AADAC has been involved with
assistance in developing the program of the Alberta Adolescent
Recovery Centre since its inception originally as Kids of the
Canadian West."
Alberta Hansard, March 24, 1992

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« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2010, 10:57:03 PM »
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Are you totally incapable  of reading comprehension, Reuben?  One article was written in 2002 and one in 2010.  That's the thing I've always wondered about you, whether you are stupid, crazy or just a liar.  I live in Alberta, home of the largest unconventional oil deposits in the world, and companies are bidding to build nukes in the northern part of the province because they're cheaper than burning fossil fuels for steam generation.

Look first of all cut the insults and also my name isn’t Ruben, its whooter.  
Goldberg may have changed his stance because of new information coming to light.  Everyone does this.

A lot has transpired over the past decade.  When 911 first occurred I felt bad for all the Arab Americans in this country.  They were taking the hit but they were not responsible and I believe they were treated unfairly in many cases.  I still don’t blame anyone here in this country.  But as time went on I became less enchanted with the Muslims because they had many opportunities to come out and denounce all these extremists but instead remained silent.  Where was the American in the term “Arab American”?  They had an opportunity to help us also and didnt.
I now trust select individual Muslims, but I don’t trust the religion or the imams.

But back to Goldberg for a second.  Why do you just come out and call people liars so easily?  Lets say that I had a son who went to a CEDU school and After-wards I stated that he did fine and that CEDU was a great place to send troubled youths.  Then 5 years later after many reports of abuse come out I change my tune and say that CEDU is not a great place to send troubled youth.  
My change in stance doesn’t make me a liar rather I have been given new information and therefore changed my position.

We all change and grow everyday.  You should try it, ajax13.



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« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2010, 01:35:38 AM »
Reuben, it is sadly amusing that you and Psy have found common ground in your desire to stifle critical analysis of this subject, and your willingness to lie to do it.  Keep in mind Johnny, I think you're a degenerate creep and you may piss me off enough to put in the effort to hang your deviant Fornits game on you at Correlsense.  I think you'll burn eventually if left to your own devices, but if you make it my business to bring you strife, then strife you shall get.
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"AARC will go on serving youth and families as long as it will be needed, if it keeps open to God for inspiration" Dr. F. Dean Vause Executive Director


MR. NELSON: Mr. Speaker, AADAC has been involved with
assistance in developing the program of the Alberta Adolescent
Recovery Centre since its inception originally as Kids of the
Canadian West."
Alberta Hansard, March 24, 1992

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Re: This Subect Cannot Be Likened to TTI Thought Control
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2010, 08:53:00 AM »
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Reuben, it is sadly amusing that you and Psy have found common ground in your desire to stifle critical analysis of this subject, and your willingness to lie to do it.  Keep in mind Johnny, I think you're a degenerate creep and you may piss me off enough to put in the effort to hang your deviant Fornits game on you at Correlsense.  I think you'll burn eventually if left to your own devices, but if you make it my business to bring you strife, then strife you shall get.

Look, cabbie, no one is lying here (unless it is you).  I was responding to your written assumption that Goldberg changed his mind because of propaganda purposes.  A lot of information came out after we put a spot light on the Arab region, especially Iraq, which shows that you are making too many assumptions yourself.  So relax and quit attacking people who disagree with you.  Your point of view is still getting heard.



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Re: This Subect Cannot Be Likened to TTI Thought Control
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2010, 09:33:13 AM »
That's funny, your 'view point' is about to be heard as well. Here's what went out this morning to

www.fornits.com and run a search on TheWho/Whooter. There you might find an interesting connection to one of your board members. Thank you. Robert Bruce[/quote]

So who reads these over there? Is it Patricia? Oh well, someone will get it soon enough.
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Re: This Subect Cannot Be Likened to TTI Thought Control
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2010, 10:31:15 AM »
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http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/08/12/goldberg
Ajax. Use a proper thread title like I warned you twice before to do. Next time i'm just going to ban you.
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