guest-8a62: all thats left of fornits is TheWho and his fan club
[Today at 01:39:41 PM] Anne Bonney: his fan club? who would that be?
[Today at 01:40:30 PM] guest-8a62: you, psy, monsters, all the other idiots who talk to him everyday
[Today at 01:41:08 PM] psy: so what do you suggest, 62?
[Today at 01:41:32 PM] guest-8a62: amazing you all have nothing better to do than talk to thewho
[Today at 01:41:53 PM] psy: were you in a program, guest?
[Today at 01:42:02 PM] guest-e6c0: guest is thewho.
[Today at 01:42:26 PM] guest-8a62: its too late you already compromised fornits in your attempt to deal with thewho and only strengthened his position
[Today at 01:43:21 PM] psy: how did I compromise fornits? how? I never gave out his IP, never did anything other than to use information everybody has to try and identify him... how did I compromise fornits?
[Today at 01:43:24 PM] guest-8a62: now fornits is a shell of itself, and the only posters are thewho and his syncophants
[Today at 01:43:27 PM] psy: tell me that, guest?
[Today at 01:43:46 PM] guest-e6c0: Fuck you, guest.
[Today at 01:43:49 PM] guest-8a62: well if you thought you did you wouldnt be doing it now would you
[Today at 01:44:11 PM] guest-8a62: im sure you have good intentions
[Today at 01:44:15 PM] alia23: syncophants?
[Today at 01:44:16 PM] guest-8a62: but its not always about that is it
[Today at 01:44:54 PM] psy: I said how.... how?
[Today at 01:44:57 PM] psy: explain it to me?
[Today at 01:45:05 PM] psy: explain how it is my fault... please do that.
[Today at 01:45:11 PM] alia23: whats the dealeo yo?
[Today at 01:45:56 PM] guest-8a62: you wouldnt get it even if i did, like i said, or you wouldnt be doing it
[Today at 01:45:57 PM] guest-8a62: you are not at fault you are who you are
[Today at 01:45:58 PM] guest-8a62: ginger is at fault for allowing you to do it
[Today at 01:46:16 PM] psy: allowing me to do what?
[Today at 01:46:40 PM] guest-8a62: thats exactly what i mean
[Today at 01:47:03 PM] guest-8a62: the difference between pre psy admin and no is night and day, but you dont see it
[Today at 01:47:45 PM] guest-8a62: how can you explain something to someone that they dont see, thats why i dont try
[Today at 01:48:25 PM] psy: if I was misusing my admin privs I would post the Who's IP, ban him, delete every single one of his posts, read his pms, email, etc.. but I don't. explain precisely how an admin position has comproimsed me?
[Today at 01:48:27 PM] alia23: what was the admin like pre psy?
[Today at 01:48:28 PM] guest-8a62: let me ask you this psy, did you notice changes when milk was admin?
[Today at 01:48:49 PM] Anne Bonney: wow...we're all idiots now. Nice
[Today at 01:49:10 PM] guest-8a62: because its been no diferent with you
[Today at 01:49:10 PM] guest-8a62: different personality, different changes but changes nonetheless
[Today at 01:49:31 PM] Anne Bonney: what do you suggest, oh great and enlightened one?
[Today at 01:49:33 PM] psy: please explain how... not making accusations with no supporting evidence?
[Today at 01:49:36 PM] guest-8a62: yes engaging thewho everyday at the same time telling others its a waste of time anne, is idiotic
[Today at 01:49:40 PM] alia23: well, 8a, it seems that if there were aspects of a past situation that you liked, maybe they could be recreated now... if you can define them, maybe you could recreate them.
[Today at 01:50:10 PM] Anne Bonney: I tell them not to make up stupid shit about him or just call him names
[Today at 01:50:33 PM] guest-8a62: it was precisely the lack of certain aspects alia, such as overbearing admins who hold personal agendas
[Today at 01:50:54 PM] Anne Bonney: I have no problem with people refuting his so called facts....at all
[Today at 01:51:13 PM] Anne Bonney: guest-8a62: it was precisely the lack of certain aspects alia, such as overbearing admins who hold personal agendas
[Today at 01:51:17 PM] Anne Bonney: I agree with that part
[Today at 01:51:18 PM] psy: 62.. please enlighten me. I am not closed minded. Explain A: how I have brought this forum to a shell of itself, as you call it.. how it's gingers fault for allowing me to do that... however that was done, etc...
[Today at 01:51:47 PM] alia23: hm, yes thats a nice situation, when people are open to eachother continually
[Today at 01:51:50 PM] psy: explain how having a couple privs have made me any different ... lol.. come on
[Today at 01:51:50 PM] guest-8a62: its gingers fault in the same way it was her fault to grant milk admin powers
[Today at 01:52:03 PM] psy: how have I abused them?
[Today at 01:52:06 PM] psy: HOW
[Today at 01:52:17 PM] psy: TELL ME
[Today at 01:53:22 PM] guest-8a62: there are too many instances to list psy
[Today at 01:53:32 PM] alia23: well, psy, it sounds like maybe 8a is trying to express that whatever ongoing dispute has been going on with this who person may be really effecting people's state of mind?
[Today at 01:53:32 PM] guest-8a62: this entire forum has become your personal pet project
[Today at 01:53:36 PM] psy: well go for it...
[Today at 01:53:49 PM] Rachael: <3<3<3
[Today at 01:53:53 PM] Rachael: hello
[Today at 01:53:57 PM] psy: name one example if there are so many!
[Today at 01:54:01 PM] alia23: Smiley
[Today at 01:54:05 PM] psy: Smiley
[Today at 01:54:47 PM] alia23: i dont know, but psy maybe it would behoove you to try to make peace with this person.... ??
[Today at 01:55:11 PM] guest-8a62: there are too many to get into listing them, you will just try to detract individual examples when the truth is obvious to those who have watched fornits change
[Today at 01:55:39 PM] psy: again... if there are so many examples, please list just one... or a few.. go ahead
[Today at 01:55:41 PM] guest-8a62: but if you want some from just this week how about you outing milk and threatening him
[Today at 01:55:43 PM] guest-e6c0: We're gonna nail his ass to the wall next time!
[Today at 01:55:45 PM] guest-8a62: threatening to call the cops which was a blatant lie which you admitted
[Today at 01:56:08 PM] guest-8a62: attempting to out thewho
[Today at 01:56:09 PM] guest-8a62: deleting your own posts as guest
[Today at 01:56:12 PM] guest-8a62: moving the slower forums which you mdoerate to the top
[Today at 01:56:32 PM] guest-8a62: threatening guests to reveal their ips
[Today at 01:56:54 PM] guest-8a62: none of these things happened before you had the power since milk was admin and he did the same things
[Today at 01:56:55 PM] Nihilanthic: <- lollin
[Today at 01:57:04 PM] Nihilanthic: rofl
[Today at 01:57:07 PM] guest-8a62: adding sue scheff bullshit to the front page
[Today at 01:57:29 PM] guest-8a62: asking for money and not delivering what you promised
[Today at 01:57:32 PM] guest-8a62: shall i go on
[Today at 01:57:36 PM] Nihilanthic:
www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Sue_Scheff ?
[Today at 01:58:06 PM] alia23: so it sounds like you feel that the way he's doing things generally is sort of anger driven? less about the whole group, more about personal preferences?
[Today at 01:58:10 PM] psy: well. the movie is taking longer than I expected, I admit
[Today at 01:58:19 PM] Nihilanthic: TALKING OUT OF GROUP
[Today at 01:58:27 PM] alia23: ?
[Today at 01:58:35 PM] Nihilanthic: PSY STOP BEING ALL ABOUT YOURSELF OMG JUST "LET IT GO"
[Today at 01:58:38 PM] guest-8a62: yes alia but then professes ideology of fornits when it suits them
[Today at 01:58:47 PM] Nihilanthic: TheWHo is an angent provocateur and generally a one-man DDoS of thought.
[Today at 01:58:47 PM] psy: also, anybody can delete their posts as guest if they make a request with an admin and they can prove they wrote it
[Today at 01:58:51 PM] guest-8a62: blatant hypocrisy
[Today at 01:59:06 PM] Nihilanthic: yeah we do what we want when we want to do it and nobody HAS to be here.
[Today at 01:59:09 PM] Nihilanthic: So GTFO?
[Today at 01:59:12 PM] guest-8a62: telling people you cant delete harmful posts about them, then deleting posts for yourself
[Today at 01:59:18 PM] psy: no.. my opinions changed. I should not have un-banned the who.
[Today at 01:59:21 PM] Nihilanthic: we've stated our agenda from the get go, anon.
[Today at 01:59:35 PM] Deprogrammed: psy take it easy on yourself the movie to be good will take time
[Today at 01:59:39 PM] Nihilanthic: We want programs, the industry, and people who work for them in one way or another to go away and never come back.
[Today at 01:59:39 PM] guest-8a62: power corrupts
[Today at 01:59:45 PM] Nihilanthic: what is being corrupted?
[Today at 01:59:49 PM] guest-8a62: absolute power corrupts absolutely
[Today at 01:59:52 PM] Anne Bonney: hey, I gotta admit that this place has changed drastically from when I found it 6 years or so ago
[Today at 02:00:04 PM] Nihilanthic: We want a idiot who stops communication and rational thought and a thread derailer gone
[Today at 02:00:20 PM] Anne Bonney: how you gonna do that Niles?
[Today at 02:00:22 PM] guest-8a62: you cant do that niles so then what
[Today at 02:00:25 PM] Nihilanthic: AB - fornits is doing more than passively education
[Today at 02:00:28 PM] guest-8a62: you think thewho is too retarded to use a proxy
[Today at 02:00:38 PM] Nihilanthic: Oh, I could put a lid on it pretty quickly. I culd exhaust TW's proxies within a week.
[Today at 02:00:40 PM] guest-e6c0: VIRGIN EYES ARE CORRUPTED BY THIS FUCKING FORUM.
[Today at 02:00:41 PM] Anne Bonney: I didn't say it wasn't
[Today at 02:00:41 PM] alia23: well it sounds like you guys have a very serious and common fundamental philisophical disagreement.....
[Today at 02:00:43 PM] psy: I don't have absolute power. All my moderation actions are logged.
[Today at 02:00:49 PM] Nihilanthic: I dodge bans like you breathe. I doubt he's as resourceful as me.
[Today at 02:00:56 PM] Nihilanthic: alia what are we disagreeing upon here?
[Today at 02:01:21 PM] guest-8a62: and nobody is watching the store though psy
[Today at 02:01:23 PM] guest-8a62: or doesnt care
[Today at 02:01:28 PM] psy: Ginger is.
[Today at 02:01:46 PM] alia23: it sounds like psy and nih are interested in pro actively creating change around these ideas, while it seems like 8a is interested in a more communication oriented approach.
[Today at 02:01:49 PM] guest-8a62: it took a lot to get milk un adminned
[Today at 02:01:49 PM] Anne Bonney: Ginger hasn't been actively involved for quite some time
[Today at 02:01:51 PM] psy: look... i take my position as admin very seriously, and I don't break teh rules
[Today at 02:02:00 PM] psy: alia.. shut up
[Today at 02:02:07 PM] alia23: ok bye!
[Today at 02:02:12 PM] Nihilanthic: Alia, communication can't work with someone like TW going out of his way to stop it and poison the well.
[Today at 02:02:18 PM] guest-8a62: see there is the hypocrisy im talking about
[Today at 02:02:25 PM] Anne Bonney: psy...what was that for?
[Today at 02:02:27 PM] guest-8a62: someone posts "kids should take staff out"
[Today at 02:02:28 PM] Nihilanthic: I've yet to see a single post without a 50/50 signal to program speak ratio
[Today at 02:02:49 PM] guest-8a62: and you threaten the cops? why? because you thought it was thewho or milk
[Today at 02:02:49 PM] guest-8a62: some survivor makes a threat, you say nothing
[Today at 02:03:15 PM] guest-8a62: how often do you check ips in the forum so you have a gods eye view of whats transpiring before responding?
[Today at 02:03:31 PM] Nihilanthic: Its called covering the forum's ass in a litigious society.
[Today at 02:03:56 PM] guest-8a62: was that the first threat youve seen niles? how about the worst?
[Today at 02:04:05 PM] Deprogrammed: Question why should have psy put up with those threats anon?
[Today at 02:04:07 PM] guest-8a62: no. psy uses his power to intimidate posters
[Today at 02:04:08 PM] psy: yes... i had to. you can't make death threats against programs on a moderated shoutbox and expect me to allow it.. if I did, i would be liable and this server could disappear
[Today at 02:04:09 PM] Nihilanthic: Do you think Im stupid enough to repeat it
[Today at 02:04:11 PM] guest-8a62: he said as much in the transcript that followed, i read it
[Today at 02:04:25 PM] Nihilanthic: JZ wouldn't let this server go away so easily.
[Today at 02:04:39 PM] psy: no... but it could easily be confiscated
[Today at 02:04:49 PM] Nihilanthic: Nevertheless I don't see 8a62 as anything but an attempt to be at best, a devils advocate, and at worst, someone trying to tweak Psy.
[Today at 02:04:52 PM] guest-8a62: sure psy, default to your moral obligations
[Today at 02:05:00 PM] Nihilanthic: So, is there some point you're getting to?
[Today at 02:05:03 PM] guest-8a62: i know thats not the truth
[Today at 02:05:05 PM] psy: and sorry, alia.. but 8a is not interested in a communciation based approach.
[Today at 02:05:08 PM] Nihilanthic: Or are you purely here to fuck with people?
[Today at 02:05:10 PM] psy: no
[Today at 02:05:15 PM] Nihilanthic: Ban him already
[Today at 02:05:20 PM] psy: will do.