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« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2005, 07:57:00 PM »
FROM A CRAZY GIRL FROM PG 96
uhhh Yeah RMA switched campuses w/ NWA, thats why the school was reported to be in Naples. They switched cuz RMA had hardly any kids and NWA was overcrowded. Oh and i had roy too and yes he was a very kind and good hearted man, but anyone who says that Roy leaving was the reason that the school was going downhill is crazy. It was obvious from the beginning. i still talk to another very kind, good hearted staff member who had been there praactically since the beginning and even they said that the place had been going downhill for years. Supposedly (as i have heard from the staff member and students who were there even before i was say that it started with the school program manager guy who was only there for like 6 months, fucked everything up and left. i think he was the one right before pam broker or something. anyways i am sure it probably was going downhill way before then. i do hope that roy is doing well. i was still seeing him until he had his heartattack, and going to see him was always one  of the only things i had to look forward to while i was there.
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« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2005, 02:43:00 PM »
Oh! CEDU & RMA close, so sad.
Thpthpthp.

I just entered RMA into a search engine & found this websight, so I apologize if I step on any toes. I don't know what this websight is.  I was hoping it was, (or that you might know of) a CEDU/RMA survivors support group?

I was a student at both from 1984 to 86. I "Graduated" (as if a diploma from RMA is worth the paper it's written on.) and yes, I have warm memories of the safety & love I felt from my friends. (although the school did nothing to prepare us for the unsafe world outside), I remember and even miss smoosh piles & DMT's, but lets face facts. The school was run by amateurs, experimenting via "trial & error" with a lot of things even -qualified- people have trouble with. Tim Brace himself admitted, when I confronted him in a rap about the sleep depravation & intense hammering of the propheets being brain washing, that is WAS brainwashing, and he defended the concept. When I was at RMA I doubt there was ONE licensed psychiatrist, psychologist, or other trained individual who would have been allowed to practice the types of things they were doing if any government agency were to have been aware of what was going on there. Why did they pick upper Idaho? Poor educational standards I guess. I was given a High School diploma, and I never took a SINGLE test. Not One.

I wish, I REALLY wish someone (with the time) would do a study of the combined Wasserman school's SUCCESS RATE. How many kids actually succeeded in life after graduation? From the early days right up through it's closing? I have only been able to keep in contact with three of my peers, but through them I have heard too many horror stories. Bill was soon after graduation disowned, and has struggled through too many jobs to count. Susan has had 3 kids & two failed marriages. Bailey killed himself. Craig gave up music & became a homeless person, Jason spent 10 years living in a drug-induced haze. I myself have had 7 jobs, two careers & a failed marriage of my own to contend with. Perhaps former staff comfort themselves with the possible statistic that a greater percentage of people succeeded after RMA than failed, but I submit that is cold comfort to the students that failed, & their families.

Are my failings CEDU/RMA's fault? H-no! (The one good thing RMA gave me was great self-evaluation skills.) It's my life, I take full responsibility. But to say that CEDU/RMA helped me, or any of my friends I have spoken to or heard from, or that it was a great & noble place, is absurd. Maybe they cleaned up their act & hired competent, qualified staff members after my time, but based on the fact that they have declared bankruptcy, I would have to assume things were still not right. Don't blame the stockholders if the whole program was failing. As for myself, I'm not "happy" it's gone, but I do have a sense of grim satisfaction.

If anyone knows of a group for former students, or you just want to Rap, I'm Geoffrey Sprague
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« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2005, 04:13:00 PM »
[ This Message was edited by: rmagirl on 2006-01-30 11:27 ]
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« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2005, 11:53:00 PM »
I went to RMA back in 1984, with Geoff who posted above.  We have indeed been the closest of friends for more than 20 years now and ironically, without RMA, that would not have been the case.
Susan was my girlfriend there, and we stayed, or rather got back together after she was yanked out by her father after we had a sex contract together.  The relationship lasted for several years and I will always be grateful I got to know her.

Yes, RMA had some good students, many of whom became good friends.  Shared experiences, even shared trauma do that to people.  They grow closer together.
I think the three of us were lucky in that we stuck together, trying to keep a firm grasp on reality, which RMA worked so hard to destroy and reform in their horrid vision.

That nightmare of a place was marketed to wealthy families who had neither the time nor the ability, perhaps even lacking the desire, to keep working with their kids, as a place to make them better again.
The problem I saw, was that the program was one-size-fits-all, and many of us were not that messed up to begin with.
I was sent to RMA because I did not complete homework.  I doubt any student who was there with me would claim I was not intelligent or well educated, so I wasn't doing schoolwork for reasons that had nothing to do with capability.
But here I was, surrounding by kids who had real problems.  Drugs, alcohol, sexual experiences so bizarre I get sick recalling listening to them repeated at the beginning of every propheet.
My parents had intended to use RMA as a way of disowning me after my 18th birthday, so I was sent there for all the wrong reasons.  On graduation day I was told I was never coming home.  Which messed me up enough I really needed counciling then.  
Parents have no clue what their kids are really doing at that school.  When they come on the occassional visits, they see their kid performing.  Doing various activities, all of which appear wholesome, running, playing, spending time with others in meaningful relationship, and they figure their kid is really in a magical place that is truly going to make they better again.
But they don't see the raps.  The constant tearing down of each student's mental barriers.  The humiliation tactics, peer pressure, sleep deprivation, bans, and so many other emotional and mental attacks that leave their child unable to cope with real life after RMA.

For me, after graduation, I was in a haze.  I was flown back to California and saw more people in the first five minutes at San Francisco airport than I had seen in the 2 years in Idaho.  Culture shock was the least of my worries however.
I had no money, no skills, and no way to survive in the most expensive state in the union, without parental support and traumatized by my time in Idaho.  
I have spent the better part of 20 years trying to rebuild my life, rebuilding my family relationships and failing miserably.  It was all a waste.  The Academy, the efforts to try to get my family to see I was not some evil teenager and never was, and to someday be proud of myself and have my family proud of me.

I have attempted suicide 3 times since graduating.  I should say I committed suicide, but when you fail, they say you just tried.  I hung myself and the rope broke.  Twice.  Odds of that are billions to one.  RMA gave me nothing but a few close friends and took away my family, my sense of self, my sense of purpose and my control over my emotions.   The staff there had no training and should not have been allowed to work with the minds of young kids, using the dangerous techniques they employed.  

From everything I have heard, the schools that spawned from CEDU and RMA were no better and continued the traditions of illegal practices, sex and drugs that were prevailent at RMA.  That they are shutting down is a good thing.  I think every cent they charged to every parent who sent a kid there should be returned, with appologies.  

What started out so many years ago as a place to help troubled young teens turned into a hellish nightmare for far too many.  I think it is evident that even 20 years later, people are still reliving the trauma and having so much trouble succeeding in their lives.  It pains me to know that those of you have have left so recently may still have endless years of emotional pain ahead of you.  And I don't know what I can offer you that would help.

I still manage to pick myself up every day and keep going, and every day it does get a little easier.  But the memories and the horror never fade.  And I still want my family back!

Good luck to you all,

William Henry, class of 1986
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-RMA graduate 1986

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« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »
Life is a very wonderful thing.\' said Dr. Branom... \'The processes of life, the make- up of the human organism, who can fully understand these miracles?... What is happening to you now is what should happen to any normal healthy human organism...You are being made sane, you are being made healthy.
     \'That I will not have, \' I said, \'nor can understand at all. What you\'ve been doing is to make me feel very very ill.\'
                         -Anthony Burgess
                      A Clockwork Orange