I have always been admirer of the 12 traditions of AA and NA. (Using these words usually gets someone shot around here.) They are more rules for getting along with each other than for personal behaviour. Political issues will always cause controversy. I really dislike liberal diatribe and a good majority of the people that post here thing I'm a fruit loop because of it. I am certain some of them discount my knowledge and experience because of it. Also, I am not convinced that sending a juvinile to a treatment center is a dastardly horrible thing when compared to the alternatives. I do agree that a treatment center that will take a youth who has smoked dope once or a lot, but who is still knocking down good grades and is an acceptable, responsible and productive person, is a treatment center whose theraputic motives should be questioned. I think damn near all current treatment centers are much better than sending someone to prison.
Now that I've got some of you riled and searching for my address so you can burn my house. These are just my beliefs, I am entitled to them. Everyone else that posts here is entitled to their beliefs. I really don't think I am All Powerful and can change an opinion that has been formed over a lifetime. I can agree to disagree. I personally think some of the bickering is a big dick or big ovary contest and some people just post shit to see what happens. Kind of like this thread.
The real thing to look for is what happens when someone does post a REAL question. You see all these people that are generally at each others throat band together and offer up the things that fixed them in similar issues. Well, at least until some ass says something like quit whining and get over it. Like one of those "work the steps or die," motherfuckers from the AA and NA world. God damnit, when I am in pain, please don't tell me this! If you have no concrete experience, shut-up, listen and perhaps you, too, will learn something.
I seriously doubt Mel & Co. even look at this site. After all, they are to busy trying to mess up other nations now. Even if they did, it would certainly be easy to find out. Just do an IP lookup of the addresses that come to this site and look into the ones that trace back to a .gov.
While my brethren here may do things that make me shake my head in dismay. While I do not agree with a good portion of them politically. While I think some people need to be in treatment centers. While I'm convinced Mel & Co. don't keep tabs on this site. I am not embarrassed by my assosciation with the people here. I have a common bond and will, just like in the fucking program, be proud to call them my friends. Even more so now than then. After all, we really are the survivors of that place. Many, many of the people that went through there aren't and no longer have a voice. I can't help but wonder what they'd say?
I miss some of them greatly and sincerely hope you do also.
Clay Lovett
[ This Message was edited by: ClayL on 2003-04-07 06:59 ]
