What is hyde

[Anonymous]

im not really grtting what hyde is
it sounds like a more traditional cult as opposed to a "torture-cult" like Cedu or Elan where the "conversion" method is brutal- isolcation,"shaming circles"(emotional battery of the individual by the group in saturated persistant "meetings" until the individual "breaks"), constant slave-labor, denial of sleep, systematic sexual abuse- ie. forcing one child to "watch" the other while they bathe or urinate/deficate, having children keep constact "flesh retraint" on another child(be physically close at all times) Using children to restrain other children

Am i right?
explain what its like on a typical day in hyde

[Ursus]

Something in between.  Usually not as extreme vis-a-vie the physical transgressions (unless you have been one of the unlucky ones), but, in turn, more insidious as far as the brainwashing goes.  Takes longer to wake up.  Like all of these places, there is "Hyde-speak" for the particulars...

[Ursus]

BTW, this particular forum is really bad as far as "staying on topic" goes, so you can't always go by the thread name re. contents.

[Anonymous]

so what is the "typical experience" to  help me understand.

You know, are u kept agasint your will, are you scared of "confrontations" in "group", did you have time for yourself?...what was your experience there like, from start to finish

thankyou
i hope u dont mind me asking

[Ursus]

Hyde has seminars... the proverbial confrontation scheme; school purges (not sure what they call them these days); ten "core principles" (5 in my day); work-crew (now called 2-4); obligatory participation in drama productions; wilderness is during the required summer intro (but now they also have 1 or more outside places they send you to during the year), they briefly toyed with setting something like that up in Georgia but I'm not sure how that panned out (this was also a single ref found on ST, so go figure).

I'm probably not the best person to ask re. a "typical day" as it has been awhile for me.  In some respects it is like a traditional boarding school in that you actually have classes, but academics is definitely subservient to "character education."  In my day, your grades had two components, the "real" academic part and the "character growth" part, and somehow the latter also affected the former, no matter how you did.  The character issue -- how your "attitude" was -- bled into every aspect of the school, from sports to academics to dining to dorm relations.  Virtually no free time.  Can remember going off campus but a few times (and you can lose that privilege, to be sure).  

Founded by an eccentric megalomaniac who is still involved, although the next generation does most of the day-to-day.  All the upper administrative personnel are either married or related to one another.  There's been a fair number of pretty traumatic and egregious sexual transgressions committed by former faculty, whom the school welcomes back and considers to be "part of the family;" its probably safe to say that the kids affected are unlikely to return.  They have a saying, "If you don't make it at Hyde, you'll never make it anywhere" which haunts a number of people.

I think the philosophy evolved out of a combination of AA/CEDU/Synanon, with the emphasis on the first one, although it definitely is Joe Gauld's personal take on this...  There was a Time-Life spread on Synanon sometime in 1962 (then seen in a positive light), shortly before Joe founded the school (1962 was when allegedly, according to him, that decision was made).  And he has dealt with AA extensively due to his wife.  And there are tremendous similarities (at least to me) with est/Landmark Forum etc. the whole LGAT trip.

The seminars could be really brutal.  And they had a version for the parents as well.

Unfortunately, I need to go now and can not say much more at the moment.  I'll check back later to see if anyone else has chimed in.

[Anonymous]

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... yde+School

A terrible school where the students are looked upon as dirt. Kids spend their free time telling eachtoher what is wrong with their personality. The students parents are brainwashed into thinking its the perfect school. If Hyde had its way, all public schools would be burned to the ground. If you have any concern for your childrens well-being, depression levels, and development, you will have to file a restraining order against yourself so that you will not be allowed within a hundred miles of that hell on earth where children are truly corrupted by adults who have sould that are completley NUMB. Hyde school is a terrible place. We can only pray that educational and child services do the right thing and shut it down. Until then we must pray.

HYDE would corrupt your children for life

[Anonymous]

this seems some what balanced:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyde_School_%28Bath%29


Group counseling sessions are mandated several times per week and run by non-accredited counselors. Students are encouraged to council each other both inside and outside of these sessions when they consider another student's actions or thoughts to be in discordant with the schools philosophy. These sessions focus on the individual students and their current issues and problems faced at the school. Students are encouraged to share intimate secrets, insecurities, doubts and regrets about them selves and their families. These amateur psychology sessions are extended to parents. The parents are incorporated into local groups based on region where they too are exposed to the school doctrine and counseling methods. The purpose of these sessions is to indoctrinate all involved into a sequestered and intimate social structure. This limits behavioral problems and helps the school with the behavioral reform aspect of it's mission. In addition it helps the school close the loop on the behavioral problems many of their students have by addressing the problems, fears, shortcomings and insecurities of the parents. In juxtaposition to the parents involvement in their own counseling, they are encouraged avoid over involvement with their children while at the school. When children are having difficulty at the school parents are instructed to stay detached from the student and to focus on their own physiological issues, while allowing the schools programs and counseling methods gently bring the child into the philosophical and cultural fold of the enclosed society of the school.

Students are encouraged and regimented to recognize and address the faults of their peers and to communicate these perceived character flaws to them in a terse manner in the "brothers keeper" line justification. "I am saying this because I care about you" is the rationale for what could be perceived as demeaning verbal encounters by outsiders. These encounters are believed to play an integral role in the improved character growth and development for all involved as espoused by the school leadership.

Truth is emphasized over harmony and students are rewarded for turning in their peers for transgressions against the Hyde School code of ethics. Students who have difficulty with following the rules of the school are put on work duty where they perform maintenance jobs and lawn care for the school during the wee hours of the morning. The idea behind the work crews is to "earn" acceptance by the group, and work back into the good graces of the school.

[Jesus H Christ]

Here is the first part.  It mentions my soulbro.


Hyde School is a character education high school in Bath, Maine.

Hyde was founded in 1966 by math teacher Joseph Gauld. Mr Gauld was interested in providing education based on character development rather than academic achievement. Since its inception Hyde School has had the reputation of being a "turn around" school. The organization, based in Maine, also includes national parenting workshops and wilderness experiences. Outdoor activities are incorporated into the educational scheme and a Outward Bound like experience is provided to many if not all students. That is a place where well to do families can send their children who are having difficulty in other educational environments. Some of these children have behavioral abnormalities, others are underperformers. In addition many students are there because their parents believe in the educational theory of character before performance. Thus there is a mix of the more traditional prep school crowd and nontraditional "turnaround" children. Because of this mix many who start there do not finish and it is not uncommon for only 6 or 10 from an original freshman class of 50 remain at the school for the entire 4 years.

Although Hyde is typically categorized as a college preparatory schoolthe school administrators regard their primary purpose as preparation for life. Hyde helps students learn, embrace, and adopt a character compass that will guide them for the rest of their lives.

Emphasis is placed on performing arts and sports. Participation in athletics is mandatory and sports are often assigned to students in order to balance the schools teams and provide for as strong a school showing as possible in as many sports as possible. Performing arts is also mandatory. Singing, acting and dancing are seen as critical steps in the development of all students. These students often perform in shows designed to attract other potential families to the school. Academics are provided but not emphasized and those who are talented at school work are enlisted to teach those who are less able. There are the typical high school classes and academics and most if not nearly all who complete school there gain access to colleges and universities.

[Ursus]

Here is another one from Urban Dictionary:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... yde+school

Hyde School     

A little fucking nut-job school where the students are forced into the cult like life that they provide. then they put you on 2/4 which means you do jail work all day. if you parents have any love for your kids get them the hell away from hyde...{edited comment}

"hey son, want to go to hyde school?"
"are you fucking kidding me?"