MORE Bullshit from Struggling Teens

[Anonymous]

Since copy/pasting seems to piss those idiots off, here are some more for your viewing and/or LAUGHING pleasure!! Get a load of what program parents are posting.. sounds like their kids REALLY were helped. Not.

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Lori42
Junior Member
Member # 3814

I feel as though I could just explode! [Mad] My 20-year-old daughter, who ran off almost three years ago, is still making the most destructive and often dangerous choices. No matter what I or her dad (or anyone, for that matter) have said, nothing has had any impact.

She is currently living across the country, all alone, involved with a man who we strongly suspect is a drug dealer or involved in illegal activity of some kind. (I say this based on several conversations I have had with her where she would let certain things slip). She spends a lot of time at bars, and has been banned from some in her area due to her behavior. She has also been fired from both her jobs since she moved out there. About three months ago her life was threatened, her animal tortured, people in her neighborhood urinated all over her car. I found this out only because one of her old friends called me, scared for our daughter. We called the police there and had them do a welfare check on her. I wanted to jump on a plane that day to try and shake some sense into her, but after speaking with her on the phone, realized that my visit would accomplish nothing.

She will not move back, and insists that her life is "wonderful". I often do not sleep well, cry easily, and simply do not know what to say to her anymore. There are NO support groups close by, I've checked. Many of my husband's family members think my husband and I are simply being too dramatic (and too tough on her)--they say she's just being a bit rebellious and that she'll outgrow it. Some have even made jokes! My husband has even made light of it when he is around his family, even though perhaps hours before we were both scared to death for her.

How am I supposed to deal with this situation? I feel as though I am the only voice of sanity. I listen when she calls, offer advice when asked, and pray for her safety. I feel very alone, and I'm very angry that this supposedly "close" family will not support our efforts to help her. Posts: 5 | From: New York | Registered: Aug 2003  |  Logged: 66.67.144.241
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Check out this retard named MOSE
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mose
Member
Member # 2980

Dear Lori
This is a good book, it will help you not feel so alone. Many parents struggle with the same issues. Go to amazon.com and click on the button to see similar titles as this one.

"When Our Grown Kids Disappoint Us : Letting Go of Their Problems, Loving Them Anyway, and Getting on with Our Lives"
By Jane Adams

Here is a listing of all face-to-face Al-Anon meeting worldwide. http://www.al-anon.alateen.org/meetings/meeting.html

They also have Al-Anon meetings online if you are not able to find local groups. http://www.serenitysys.com/A_Serenity_Place/
or
http://ola-is.org/groups/cafg/index.htm

Families Anonymous Groups
http://www.familiesanonymous.org/content/meetings.htm
Scroll down to see your state listing.

[ July 17, 2005, 08:45 AM: Message edited by: mose ] Posts: 848 | From: New York City | Registered: Jul 2002  |  Logged: 66.108.212.226 | Report this post to a Moderator

MAN these idiots crack me up.

 :rofl:  :rofl:  :roll:  :roll:  :lol:

More to come....

[Anonymous]

irol
Member
Member # 3567

My son is back at his RTC after 11 months out. We tried everything at home that seemed possible. We tried local help, family help, therapy, school help, friends help, friends of parents help, etc... Yet the situation just kept getting worse. I hate drugs.

He is safe. He will get healthy again. I'm glad about that. But overall, I'm sad.

Lori Posts: 192 | From: Madison | Registered: Apr 2003  |  Logged: 24.241.224.35 | Report this post to a Moderator

[Anonymous]

cubbie
Member
Member # 4627


My son had his first home visit after six weeks of rehab. He did fine until 11 pm on the second day when something came over him, he took our car, went out and met a drug friend, used and didn't come home until 3 am. He knows the severe consequences he faces back at the program and tells us in his heart he doesn't want to do this stuff and he is ashamed that he did. His counselor had told us that he had made great progress and our phone conversations and visits there indicated that, as well. I am shock that he would come home the first time and fall right back into in it. Do any of you have similiar experiences? What do I expect in the future? This is so heartbreaking. Right when we had some hope and were seeing a light at the end of the tunnel....

[Anonymous]

maggie0325
Member
Member # 3191

We were notified today by our son's TBS therapist that his mother pulled him from the program last night. He had been dropped a level and not doing well, which she took full advantage of... stating that the program is no longer working. HA! She has been planning on doing this since March... when she went for her first family visit. We warned ths school of this, but they dismissed our suspicions. For some reason, they assumed that his bio-mom was an honest, level headed person instead of the psycho shrink that we know.

We are angry, hurt, and devastated. Although we have joint custody, we have been the residential parents for 7 years. 10 months out of the year he is with us and then 2 months in the summer he is with his mother. He has 4 sisters at our home. His mother is working on her 3rd live-in boyfriend in 5 years.

There are legal steps that we can take. She is violating the custody order. She is violating the order filed with the court a year ago agreeing to keep in the program and to pay half... But what can we do? Our son is 16. We are not in a good place with him right now because we would not "rescue" him. He has been told over and over that it was our choice alone to send him away.... that his mother was forced into a corner, forced to agree.

ANy thoughts? Suggestions? We are feeling not only that we are back to where we were pre-wilderness, but several steps behind that. More financially and emotionally drained. And, we beleive, we have lost our son to the "dark side".

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THIS one is interesting, and not unusual for programs. The woman typing above is obviously the step-mom in the situation. This bitch goes on saying his mother was wrong for taking him out of one of the most abusive programs there is.
Yep- this is what struggling teens parents are all about. Even if the real mom doesn't want her kid in, this step- mom has to step in and pay to have the kid removed and abused.

[Anonymous]

MOSE?  That name sounds familiar.

Is this the same lady who bitterly obejcted awhile ago when other ST parents confessed to relying upon DRUGS to cope with raising their residential kids?

Anybody know?  Seems to me it was somebody named MOSE but I could be mistaken.

Wonder if a search on the ST forum would bring up that thread?

 :rofl:

[Anonymous]

On 2005-08-01 11:07:00, Anonymous wrote:

"MOSE?  That name sounds familiar.



Is this the same lady who bitterly obejcted awhile ago when other ST parents confessed to relying upon DRUGS to cope with raising their residential kids?



Anybody know?  Seems to me it was somebody named MOSE but I could be mistaken.



Wonder if a search on the ST forum would bring up that thread?



 :rofl:











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It was someone named Millicent.  A long time ST member who objected to the use of MEDS by parents of struggling teens so she wrote a farewell post where Mose and others weighed in with their opinions ....

http://www.strugglingteens.com/cgi-bin/ ... 595#000005

[Anonymous]

mose
Member
Member # 2980

Years ago I used to get annoyed with people taking medication for something that seemed situational and passing like our teens having troubles. Just because my brain chemistry makes me able to cope without medication does not make everyone like me. Brain chemistry doesn't work that way.

Parents shared honestly how coping is working for them. We don't know each others mental health history and genetics. Stressful or traumatic events are triggers for people prone to major depression. Coping by using exercise, talk psychotherapy, or strenuous physical labor can do nothing to improve some peoples ability to function. People with depression usually can't function enough to help themselves until they're taking their medicine.

I think It's unfair to further stigmatize medication and people who need it for depression just because people like you and I don't need it.
I can't figure out what really triggered your strong response.

Continue to Stick around... You're point of view is so valuable.
Fondly,
mose

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hahahahaha. what a psycho. I hear this loser comes over here too. how funny is that?

[spots]

Are these two ladies still posting on Struggling Teens?  

As I recall, mose is a single lady from NYC with a kid she sent to a WWASPS facility *ages*, i.e., 5-6 years ago.   I don't think she ever talks about her relationship with her kid...and I think that's because she doesn't HAVE a relationship with her kid.  She is strident, feeling that "send them away" is the answer to every problem.  There's a lot of "...let the little darlings deal with that!" sort of hatred in her postings.  I'm presuming she doesn't have a real life, because she had more than 3000 postings way back 2 and 3 years ago when I was involved with the forum, trying to rescue my grandaughter.  

"Millicent" is another person-without-a-life who loves to encourage parents to dump their kids.  Her screen name is in honor of her mother, Millicent.  She also spends WAY TOO MUCH time on the forum, happily banishing any kid whose parents she can influence...which is obviously an attempt to vindicate what she did to her own kid (almost consipicuously absent from her life).  

I got into it with mose online, rather gently warning that casual conversation in public about how wonderful *ALL* BM facilities are would land some kids in REALLY BAD ones, knowing that WWASPS was generally considered bad by forum participants, and that one could not mention the program by name due to a huge previous conflicting thread which threatened to shut down ST.  [mose's answer to anything is "Send 'em away!"]  This didn't get me *banished* from the forum, but intitiated the famous "Whistle Stop" icon that now appears at the end of each post.  Moderator Jana (with a daughter in-and-out of every program Mom could think of, and at last count, a total loss who never caved to a Program) needs to be told quickly if a poster says anything "harmful" to Lon's business.

[Anonymous]

LOL Spots ... glad to hear you didn't take any crap from those parents-helping-other-parents "residentialize" their kids.

That's a funny story about the "whistle blower" icon!  Of course, only ST would feel obligated to go to such lengths to CONTROL the anti-teen helpers.  

Give 'em hell!