Heavy Politics

[Froderik]

After having been on 5th for way too long (year
total!) I didn't worry as much about things that I
would have before. Things that would have gone
"against my conscience" before. Like buying and
listening to punk albums. (uh oh, my PAST!) I read "A Clockwork Orange" on 5th when I would have been squeamish about it before. I started getting (at least I was TRYING to get) heavily political. Some of the music - like "Penis Envy" by Crass, stuff by the Dead Kennedys, and this weird sorta 'skinhead' band called the Nihilistics, was very anti-Gov't. (No I'm not and
never was a racist skinhead) Punk music (and yes,
other music too) kept me feeling like I still had a pulse in there. I figured if anyone got too weird about me enjoying criticizism of the gov't, then that just showed how FULL_OF_SHIT that they (and subsequently Straight) in fact was/were. At school, all I did was either sleep, try to improve my vocabulary (by going thru a pocket dictionary), or doodled. After I 7-stepped, I think, I remember going to an Anarchist library here in Baltimore and looking for anything interesting. I found out about a demonstration against Apartheid. I ended up going down to the embassy with complete strangers and picketing.
The best part was the ride to and from. Enlightening discussions in the car like the politics of Star Trek (having a black woman and asian that didn't act like stereotypes) and stuff like that...It wasn't too long before good ol' sex, drugs and rock n' roll found their way back into my life, for better or for worse. As far as politics go, I don't really have time for 'em anymore, but do appreciate a good, succinct update
now and again...peace out, thanks for reading. >>FR13

PS - Scott B., what's up? When did Dean blast me about punk music? I mean, what did the FAG say, anyway? (Hey, that felt kinda good, no offense to gays on this board)

[Anonymous]

Dear AlexL,

I enjoyed reading your post. Please allow me to gently point out that while you may intend no offense in your PS, your use of that word in a derogatory way makes it offensive in the very way you wish to avoid.

Peace

[Anonymous]

B    O    N    G   !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          MOTHER MOTHER FUCK  MOTHER MOTHER FUCK FUCK MOTHER FUCK MOTHER FUCK
NOITCH   NOITCH  NOITCH!!!!


JERSEY REPRESENT!!!!
 :skull:

[Anonymous]

DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT FUCKING PUNK ROCK IS??


WHEN WERE YOU BORN?? ::armed::

[Froderik]

Anon. #1: Point taken. But Dean was such a hypocrite that I couldn't resist.

Anon. #2: Cool, whatever...

Anon. #3: You talkin' to me? I gather not...



[ This Message was edited by: AlexL on 2003-02-25 06:00 ]

[ClayL]

I am always offended when people take offense at language. Every word in the lexicon of human knowledge has a meaning and a function. Calling certain words bad, and saying they should never be uttered belies this usage. If I want to be as offensive as possible to an indivdual then I choose certain words. That people get offended is thier right, as is their right to let me know how offended they are about my word choice. They do not, however, have the right to prevent me from using the words I choose. This is what the Founding Fathers meant when they wrote the First Ammendment to the Constitution.

In the end, its all just sticks and stones....

CL

[ehm]

Clay,
  I'm with you all the way!! You sound like a really cool dude, as well as inteligent. :nworthy:
                 
                Thanks for keepin' it real,
                           Morli or Lesli
     However I stopped going by Lesli after the first 19 years of my life,(bad memories) and was fortunate enough to be re-named my one of my oldest , and best friends.  
                           See ya.

[bountyboy88]

id just like to say punk is gr8 music espesialy oi but im a skinhead talking here im a non rasict skin however but it sounds like u know what ur talking about  frodrick knowing the diffrance between us non rasict skins and the nazi boneheads good job my name is will by the way i went to bca i was in pg 30 did i know any of u

[shady grove]

On 2003-02-25 06:44:00, ClayL wrote:

" This is what the Founding Fathers meant when they wrote the First Ammendment to the Constitution.



In the end, its all just sticks and stones....



CL"

That is different. This discussion is not about censorship or violating someone's first ammendment rights, it's about courtesy and respect. Again, we know Froderick meant no offense. But just b/c you have the right to say anything you can think of, does not mean you won't hurt someone else by doing so. I'd rather not live somewhere that has laws about what I can say, I'd rather think that my society is evolved enough to not need such laws. I agree that words are just words and should carry no power over others, but they simply DO. Words can hurt.