Stuff that annoys the shit out of me!

[Antigen]

What the hell, since I'm going all philisophical on trolls and anonymity, I may as well drop this on yenz too.

If we're to be honest about it, and that usually is a good idea provided you're using one of the more comonly accepted definitions of the term 'honesty', there are trolls that we love too. In just about every forum on this server, there are wildly outlandish pieces of vulgar satire about various hated staff members and execs. Some people have made some strong arguments for deleting that stuff too; it detracts from the credibility of others; it's childish; whatever. Thankfully, not my call. Wouldn't you just hate to have to make those judgements all the time?

Anyway, some people just don't get what's so damned funny about this kind of wonton slander, but I certainly do!

Take the Semblers, for example. They've made a career of humiliating and castigating as many children as they can manage to get under their control. You think the PumpGate thing is maybe a little off color? Try forcing a little girl to make detailed sexual confessions in front of every human being they're allowed to see. Next the alleged adults in charge call on those peers, one at a time, as they compete for the right to rip this little girl apart using the most foul language shouted in her face till a good while after she breaks down into tears. Then make her do it again and see if she's properly ashamed of herself yet.

And they're not just running on a decent work ethic, either. These folks are driven to their work! Always have been. No mother fucker ever worked harder or longer. They really seem to thrive on it.

But let just a couple of those now grown children get on here or in the paper or on the idiot box and be meanies and say things that hurt their feelings WOW! All of a sudden Lenny's jumping through his own asshole to try and invoke the courts to make them quit being meanies!  :rofl: Zippety-fucking-do-dah, mother fuckers! Suck it up!

It really is funny as hell to watch these people's reaction once the shoe is on the other foot, so to speak. And, believe me, it's simply not possible to have the impact on them through the media that they had on us stuck in group as children for years.

None of Nature's landscapes are ugly so long as they are wild.
-- John Muir

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[Antigen]

Another good point about anonymity.

On 2005-01-15 14:20:00, Anonymous wrote:

So you clowns are good for something at least ---lots of laughs---over at the CEDU alum board your poats are even funnier---really out of your element---here among your drug-fiend compatriots some people willgrovel and stroke your poor little antisocial egos-- people from CEDU who have real full meaningful lives---unlike you pigs here---just find you pathetic and ridiculous

I can't tell you folks much about who this is beyond what any of us can infer from their posts. But that's quite a lot, really. I think it's a safe bet that this is yet another CEDU graduate, just like Serb and Bryan and Shanlea. In fact the vast majority of posters in this forum are CEDU graduates.

This is the final product, folks! Is this how anyone wants their kid to learn to behave? Is this what you would expect after reading the brochure and calling the select reference families?

Well, I never saw the brochures or even looked at it very closely from the pov of a prospective mark. But, having been on the inside of a Synanon based program for a number of years, I'm not the least bit surprised. This is just exactly how I remember it. And I'd bet good money that none of these people interact w/ others in their lives the way they do here. It's only the topic of CEDU that brings out this ugliness. It's kinda like how you don't talk shop w/ everybody you know. But when you get around your coworkers, it's almost inavoidable. This is a fine slice of CEDU culture. This is how CEDU teaches their students to behave. This is the product they're selling. Are ya' sold yet??

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 been able to determine that for themselves,
 albeit illegally. Like my own family, these
 individuals did not wish to break the law but
 they had no choice.
 

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[CEDU IS A CULT]

But you're right.  That's all anyone did there at CEDU- yell and scream and fight and brutalize eachother.  Then fucking kiss, jerk eachother off, and make-up.

And we are perfect examples of what we were taught.  Its sad.  But unfortunately, this still is how I interact with others when I'm angry.  And I don't like it at all.

[Antigen]

Well, I never said I was immune, ya' know. I can't remember what the fight was about, but I was fighting w/ my husband. And I just realized one day what a horrendous bitch I was being. Total scorched Earth policy over everything or nothing, ya' know? Tearing his ass down. And the funny thing was that I didn't even feel that way. It was just like this imperative to win a stupid argument. I apologized to him and try hard never to ever channel those demons ever!

Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise.
--James Madison, U.S. President

[Son Of Serbia]

On 2005-01-15 14:20:00, Anonymous wrote:

"
So you clowns are good for something at least ---lots of laughs---over at the CEDU alum board your poats are even funnier---really out of your element---here among your drug-fiend compatriots some people willgrovel and stroke your poor little antisocial egos-- people from CEDU who have real full meaningful lives---unlike you pigs here---just find you pathetic and ridiculous

"

That's pretty funny dickless...if your life is so "meaningful & full" then why is it that you spend so much time obsessing over everything Bryan and I say?  I mean all you ever have to talk about here is Bryan and Myself, don't you have anything else to talk about? Is this what you consider "full and meaningful?"  

Y'know the last time I checked, people with "full and meaningful lives" have better things to talk about than "beating off to school pictures of 9 year old girls."  

Unlike yourself Anon, people with "full and meaningful lives" are not racists, and they are able to express their opinions and have constructive arguements without resorting to blatant lies, ethnic slurs, bigotry, and sexism.
These are all things that you are notorius for at this website.

I noticed how quickly you shut up and disappeared after Antigen suggested compiling a list of your previous posts and identifying all of them as yours.  Funny how you only returned after Antigen promised she would not do this without your permission.  Yet another testament to your limitless cowardice Anon.  You have such strong beliefs & opinions about us, yet you haven't even the courage to stand behind your own words.  How sad.  How EMPTY and PATHETIC your own life must truly be.

As for CeduAlumni.com, I posted there one time, and in response the moderator "Alex" banned all anonymous posting.  And yes, over there amoung the mindless "Cedu Sheep" I was very much "out of my element." Needless to say those idiots were so afraid to debate me at their site, that
the moderator made it impossible for me to return.  

I wonder what it is about me that you sheep are so afraid of?

(Antigen) I ask you to please reconsider your decision regarding posting the compiled list of this idiots posts.  I don't believe that this would compromise his anonymity in any way.  I am not asking you to expose his identity, only to confirm that all of his posts originated from the same source.  I say we hold dickless responsible for his words.


.[ This Message was edited by: SON OF SERBIA on 2005-01-18 07:35 ]

[Anonymous]

Couldn't care less if you think my life is meaningful--told you before and I say it again---when you and Bryan the Fool bully other people and I see it---I'm going to call you on it

Too bad for both of you somebody didn't do that a long time ago---before you both developed your shitty antisocial personalities

CEDU has done a lot of good for a lot of people it's not perfect but it is often useful---sorant here or go over to the alum board and talk about sheep all you want---you'll just be a laughing stock there too---just like you are here

[Antigen]

On 2005-01-18 06:34:00, SON OF SERBIA wrote:


(Antigen) I ask you to please reconsider your decision regarding posting the compiled list of this idiots posts. I don't believe that this would compromise his anonymity in any way. I am not asking you to expose his identity, only to confirm that all of his posts originated from the same source. I say we hold dickless responsible for his words.

And here's your answer.

I noticed how quickly you shut up and disappeared after Antigen suggested compiling a list of your previous posts and identifying all of them as yours. Funny how you only returned after Antigen promised she would not do this without your permission. Yet another testament to your limitless cowardice Anon.

You're not the only one who noticed this guy's tragic lack of testicals. I really don't want anybody shut down or shut up or shut out of here. When you just lay it all out and let normal people look at the whole story, it's pretty obvious where people like this are coming from.

In case anybody failed to notice, our dickless wonder here doesn't actually deny anything, does he? That alleged adult 'staff' would trick kids into making obscene false confessions the way these guys describe, for example? No one's denying it. Why not? Maybe it's true. I think it probably is because they did the same thing in the Synanon based program I was in. Exactly the same thing. Like they learned it in school or something.

Instead of denying the facts, they just give a little demonstration for all to see on how the typical Synanon based program goes about "reforming" deviance. Of cource, they don't care about deviance from normal sensibilities about decency and kindness. The only deviance they care about is deviance from Program dogma.

Folks, if you send your kid off to be reformed the Synanon way, this is how it will be done. So just don't do that, ok?

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[CEDU IS A CULT]

CEDU taught us to be bigoted assholes and that's why people don't like CEDUites.

No one likes to hang out with someone who inherently feels superior to others.

And anyone who went there knows that CEDU taught us that some people are inherently better then others. Remember how older students were compared to younger students. Then, by going through all the profeets, they convinced you that you were inherently superior (giant) to all humanity!- Not because of selfless altruistic acts or feats of human greatness, but just because you believe the CEDU religion.

The only thing missing at CEDU is the philosophy that if you don't believe- you're going to hell.

Now imagine being non-religious and having to hang out all the time with a Catholic who constantly thinks they are better then you and you are going to hell?

Help me lord CEDU, my lord and saviour. Forgive my sins. Oh thank you CEDU! I'll worship you forever!!

Fuck CEDU in the fucking neck and fuck all who support CEDU in the fucking neck and yeah that includes Ottawa 2 and 5, Cedualumni.com, and the anonymous troll. If you're so stupid that it takes this long to explain it to you, then fuck off. We've explained plenty to you and you still don't get it. I guess you never will or never want to.

[CEDU IS A CULT]

I was just exploring one of the worst memories at CEDU.

I remember in the SUMMIT (6 day workshop) Rudy was playing some crazy loud music. He had paired us all off with our best friends. My partner was a guy named Sean.

He started giving the same old speech he'd been pounding into our heads over the last 2 days- screaming into our ears "Do NOT hold back!! You MUST give 100 percent for this to work! Don't rip yourself off by not going ALL the WAY!!" It was all very intense and we were buying it hook line and sinker.

Then we paired off and I was instructed to bring my right hand back as far as I could. On the count of 1...2...3...and the word commence- I was to strike Sean as hard as I could slapping him in the face. (I guess he was trying to say this was how we treat eachother)

I was fucking in a panic. I didn't want to hit my best friend, but everyone else was prepped and ready to do it. We were all panicking and scared shitless. I had heard rumours from older students that the Summit had a really insane moment- but to trust Rudy and do whatever he says because it was worth it!

Was I really going to have to strike my buddy?

So here came the countdown to the mental mind fuck.

1...2...3.......................(Noooooooo!!!!!)

"give your partner a hug."


Okay, so you're saying no harm, no foul.

Wrong. I swear to you and I really believe I speak for most of us that were there. If Rudy had said commence, with no doubt in my mind, I would have struck Sean with ALL my might.

And I knew it, too. I knew right then, that Rudy had me and all the others.

I knew the power they had even over me.

I went up to my dorm and had a cigarette. It was crazy.

[Anonymous]

and faggots they are annoying too

[Anonymous]

AS predicted there goes Pyscho Bryan--fuck somebody in the neck, and on and on---why don't they just lock him up somewhere---his poor kids--if he really has any

And Antigen you old drug infested pimp---re-post all my posts?--just to let you know hundreds of people post where i do every month all without any sign-on---and i know at least 3 and maybe 4 others who at least check the site or post here---and they think you are all drugged out psychos too---but very funny

I'm not CEDU staff I'm not a student or aparent but I know 2 kids who got a lot of a CEDU program I'd work there in a heart beat just to see how the place works maybe I will someday

I know bullies when I see them that's what Bryan and Sheep man are--ranting threatening bullies--don't take my word check their posts

And for god's sake don't take Antigen's word on anything--she can't think straight for the drugs for one thing (read her points about her love affair with substance abuse) for another she does crazy things like tries to frame these bullies as somehow wounded heros--they're not--they're just generic thugs who CEDU did not help and their behavior here shows what they are--that doesn't mean that CEDU can't help people who are a little more normal and if you ever met a CEDU grad you'd laugh at Sheep of Serbia's recent suggestionn that they don't get along with people--another fantasy easily disproved by actually lookin at real grads, talking to them instead of listening to degenerate comments from CEDU (and life) failures

[Anonymous]

You are so right Anon---whining crybabies rich spoiled little princes who think there tough--that's who posts here mostly

It's all about drugs folks CEDU tried to get between these little perverts and their drugs and that's why they hate CEDU---

Can't believe a word that Sheep and Bryan Follsher say and Antigen---she's never even been in a CEDU school what can she know anyway except anybody who uses is her kind of people

[Anonymous]

On 2005-01-20 19:00:00, Anonymous wrote:

"You are so right Anon---whining crybabies rich spoiled little princes who think there tough--that's who posts here mostly

Uh huh.  Sure.  We believe two different people wrote these.  Yep. :roll:  :roll:

AS predicted there goes Pyscho Bryan--fuck somebody in the neck, and on and on---why don't they just lock him up somewhere---his poor kids--if he really has any

[Anonymous]

On 2005-01-19 16:20:00, Anonymous wrote
And for god's sake don't take Antigen's word on anything--she can't think straight for the drugs for one thing

 :smokin:  :smokin:  :smokin: I've been smoking for years now and I have an amazing life!!!! :wave: