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What to do with the Quran: A different kind of suggestion.
« on: September 11, 2010, 05:35:32 PM »
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Citizen Warrior: September 11th, 2010: This
Much We Know
SINCE SEPTEMBER 11th, 2001, we have
been earnestly seeking answers to the
questions, "Why did this happen? Why
would someone do such a thing? What
were the hijackers trying to accomplish?
And what can we do about it?"
We may not have figured it all out, but we
can confidently say we've established at
least this much: That we in free nations
will not be able to preserve our freedoms
against orthodox Islam's relentless push for Sharia until enough of us understand
what we're dealing with.
Because some people speak confidently about Islam without any real knowledge
of it, and because some who know a lot about Islam speak with some other
agenda besides simply speaking honestly, and because of the principle of taqiyya,
the only way to know for sure what's true about Islam is to read the Quran
yourself.
We're wasting too much time debating each other. After everyone in the
conversation has read the Quran, we can begin a productive discussion. Until a
person has read the Quran, everything the person says and thinks about Islam is
permeated with secondhand ideas and opinions that must be taken, to some
degree, on faith. After a person reads the Quran, she or he will have the facts, not
opinions.
Armed with actual facts, we have a good chance of being able to manage the
problems we have ahead of us.
Until a majority of non-Muslims have read the Quran, orthodox Muslims can easily
gain ground toward the gradual implementation of Sharia in Western democracies
because confused non-Muslims tend to accommodate and concede. But taqiyya
only works on the ignorant.
Once enough of us have read the Quran, representatives who understand Islam
will be voted into office and appropriate policy decisions will be proposed and
endorsed.
But first, as many of us as possible need to read the Quran, starting with you.
So we have created a pledge site, and we're keeping it as simple as possible. We're
going to push this as an international campaign to get non-Muslims everywhere to
"take the Pledge" and read the Quran.
Please help us promote this in every way you can. Write to your favorite bloggers
and urge them to put the pledge on their site or promote it in their sidebar. When
you read comments by people on YouTube, Facebook, web sites or blogs —
people who obviously know nothing about Islam — urge them to take the Pledge
and read the Quran. Post links to the Pledge everywhere you can.
If you own a web site and you want to promote
this pledge, you can put a graphic like the one
on the left (or one of these) and link it to the
pledge, or you can actually put the pledge on
your site. We can provide you with the code.
Since the pledge is hosted on a separate site,
the interactive form and all the signatures and
comments will appear on your site, appearing as
if the pledge is yours. You can create your own
preamble. Write to us for more information.
Let's convince everyone we know to take the
pledge, and then let's convince them to convince
everyone they know to take the pledge. Let's
make it common knowledge that "reading the
Quran just once will inoculate you and yours
against taqiyya for the rest of your lives."
You can start right here and take the Pledge yourself: Sign the Pledge. If you've
already read the Quran, please sign the pledge and in the comments, say what
you learned.
We recommend a particular version of the Quran. It has only 203 pages and it is
written in modern English. It contains all the information in the Quran without any
repetition. And it gives you enough background information to understand what
each passage is about. Perhaps most importantly, it is written in chronological
order (this is important because of the principle of abrogation). The book is An
Abridged Koran, published by CSPI. When you are done with this book, you will
know what the Quran says.
If you want to make sure you have read every single verse of the Quran —
repetition and all — the other version we recommend is A Simple Koran, also by
CSPI.
If you don't have any money, or if you're in a hurry, or if you enjoy reading online,
several complete versions of the Quran are available. Here are a few.
We've created a page on Facebook where we'll be posting reasons to read the
Quran — not to convince you, but to help you convince your friends. If you
become a friend of the page, you can share these reasons easily with your
Facebook friends.
We've created several versions of this pledge, each for a different audience. This
one is for a general audience. It has a neutral point of view. This one is for
patriots. And this one is for young people who think the media and the
government are in a conspiracy to destroy the world.
Because of the Ground Zero mosque controversy, a window of opportunity has
opened, and we must sieze it. More people are curious about Islam than ever
before. We must help them satisfy their curiosity with real information and
prevent them from being lulled back to sleep with Muslim apologists like Karen
Armstrong or John L. Esposito. Convince them there is nothing like source
material, and you can't get closer to the core of Islam than reading the Quran.
We've come a long way in nine years. But let's make this next year reach a whole
new level. Let's create an international movement to get hundreds of millions of
non-Muslims to read the Quran. Then, armed with the facts, we will put a stop to
Islam's relentless encroachment. Let us gather the forces of freedom and push
back to regain liberties we've given up to appease or accomodate.
Many of us were awakened to Islam on September 11th, jarred awake by the
senseless deaths of our fellow citizens. In a sense, their horrific murder served to
arouse us from our slumber, and since then we have been groping our way out of
ignorance. But the work is not complete.
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Re: What to do with the Quran: A different kind of suggestio
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2010, 05:41:45 PM »
An abridged version written by an organization that won't even give the expansion of its acronym.

YEAH.

THAT SOUNDS LEGIT.
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Re: What to do with the Quran: A different kind of suggestio
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2010, 06:12:28 PM »
Quote from: "Pile of Dead Kids"
An abridged version written by an organization that won't even give the expansion of its acronym.

YEAH.

THAT SOUNDS LEGIT.

So don't read that copy. It was one suggestion of several:

We recommend a particular version of the Quran. It has only 203 pages and it is
written in modern English. It contains all the information in the Quran without any
repetition. And it gives you enough background information to understand what
each passage is about. Perhaps most importantly, it is written in chronological
order (this is important because of the principle of abrogation).
The book is An
Abridged Koran, published by CSPI. When you are done with this book, you will
know what the Quran says.


If you want to make sure you have read every single verse of the Quran —
repetition and all — the other version we recommend is A Simple Koran, also by
CSPI.


If you don't have any money, or if you're in a hurry, or if you enjoy reading online,
several complete versions of the Quran are available. Here are a few. . .


So, what is it exactly your wanting to bitch about?
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Re: What to do with the Quran: A different kind of suggestio
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2010, 06:42:23 PM »
Hmm, let's see, do a little googling...

Yup! CSPI's run by Bill Warner, who's a demented fuck. Damn, Florida's just loaded with demented fucks...

Next.

I've read some of the Koran; like most bad fiction I couldn't bring myself to finish it. It's complete bullshit.

But, as the Christians are slowly learning to their sorrow, you can't fight complete bullshit with more complete bullshit.
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Re: What to do with the Quran: A different kind of suggestio
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2010, 10:36:22 AM »
Considering we have been at war for 9 years in Afghanistan it would seem American's would have read the Koran years ago. We would want to understand what our enemies believe.

No?

I would not recommend reading the Koran or understanding how Islam is understood by Muslims... by going to a non-Muslim site.

Go to Muslim sites. Learn Islam from Muslims.

It's not hard to understand, even a Caveman can understand it.
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Re: What to do with the Quran: A different kind of suggestio
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2010, 01:44:01 PM »
How about it Stonewall, how did you find your way to Fornits and start posting Zio-prop?  Again, not a single post from you in any forum related toTTI, but you're all over this forum.  And how about that bit where you claimed I attacked jews?  Where did you see that, Stony?
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Re: What to do with the Quran: A different kind of suggestio
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2010, 01:59:50 PM »
Use it for tiolet paper. Better yet. how about a variety pack with the new testament the torra and the dead sea scrolls.
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Re: What to do with the Quran: A different kind of suggestio
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2010, 08:18:26 PM »
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How about it Stonewall, how did you find your way to Fornits and start posting Zio-prop?  Again, not a single post from you in any forum related toTTI, but you're all over this forum.  And how about that bit where you claimed I attacked jews?  Where did you see that, Stony?


Zio-Prop?

What is the opposite of that?

Dhimmi?

Why can't you defend that which you protect? Who cares what I believe? Defend Hamas, Defend Islam, Defend Muhammad.

I don't care about Jews or Israel. Why should I?

They can defend themselves. And, they do. That is what upsets you?

You want Islam to defeat Israel.

Look, I'm sure they will someday. The idea that Israel will last forever, that is insane. I give them 50 years maximum survival.

Then what? How are you gonna defend Muhammad? Blame Spain?
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