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Straight Parent List
« on: December 11, 2008, 09:59:22 PM »
No need I am happy to start the list. I spent the evening speaking to a survivor again over this whole parent issue and I was thrilled that someone finally said enough.
If you agree , please fill in your parents name
Robert S - Parents
Dee Dee Lewis Mom - Miss Lewis - Ill get her first name
Ginger Warbis - Parent
Sammy M - Parent
Charles  Heath - Thanks Marti
Mike Shermans

Ok , chime in and lets get their full names , devote a topic perhaps a site to them as mh suggest. Lets make sure if they are googled only this comes up.
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Re: Straight Parent List
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2008, 10:05:12 PM »
WHY are you airing survivor names? Maybe some of those survivors do not want their names out there.

Here's the problem: in your burning desire to hurt the parents, you might hurt the kids some more. Unfortunately, they usually share in common a last name.

Which is more important? Hurting the parents and giving them their due? Or protecting the survivors, at least leaving their identity outing up to THEIR choice?
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Re: Straight Parent List
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2008, 10:37:10 PM »
I see your point but I disclosed no one that i either did not get permission from or
who is well known here and does not disclose their identity. So, I appreciate you thinking of that but I did think of that in those that I was not sure of I only knew the tears we shed over parents and only went with initials.
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Re: Straight Parent List
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2008, 10:52:43 PM »
I wonder about a list like this

Should we all post our parents names, as well as some others we might have known, as some form of punishment just in case their names get googled?

I was in straight  30 years ago... before I lost both my parents, we had many, many conversations  about my time in the program. They learned things through our discussions that they had not known before, and once it was  known to them, they never supported Straight again. That didn't happen over night though...it took time. We talk about our experiences and how we  were brainwashed and altered  by what was done to us, but our parents were also effected...in their own way. It took time for them to see the truth because they, like us, had been forced into thinking habits that were abnormal.
Not an excuse, just how I see it now with my folks gone, and a number of years behind me.

I'd like to think though that if my parents were still alive and we  had unresolved issues about Straight, that I would continue to try and talk openly with them about how I felt but  I don't think I'd be interested in posting their names, or any other parents, just as a way to shame them.
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Re: Straight Parent List
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2008, 11:25:32 PM »
Quote from: "my 2"
I wonder about a list like this

Should we all post our parents names, as well as some others we might have known, as some form of punishment just in case their names get googled?

I was in straight  30 years ago... before I lost both my parents, we had many, many conversations  about my time in the program. They learned things through our discussions that they had not known before, and once it was  known to them, they never supported Straight again. That didn't happen over night though...it took time. We talk about our experiences and how we  were brainwashed and altered  by what was done to us, but our parents were also effected...in their own way. It took time for them to see the truth because they, like us, had been forced into thinking habits that were abnormal.
Not an excuse, just how I see it now with my folks gone, and a number of years behind me.

I'd like to think though that if my parents were still alive and we  had unresolved issues about Straight, that I would continue to try and talk openly with them about how I felt but  I don't think I'd be interested in posting their names, or any other parents, just as a way to shame them.
Post the names please. They will live. Public interest
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Re: Straight Parent List
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2008, 07:00:00 AM »
Quote from: "Guest1980"
No need I am happy to start the list. I spent the evening speaking to a survivor again over this whole parent issue and I was thrilled that someone finally said enough.

First sentence doesn't make any sense. Second sentence doesn't really make sense either..."this whole parent issue"...damn, I didn't know there was a "parent issue", I suspect we all have parent issues and I can see the need to discuss them as they relate to Straight Inc. but am I to understand I am to out my own parents? Or am I to out your parents? probably most confusing of all is that you were "thrilled that someone finally said enough" Enough about what?


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Ok , chime in and lets get their full names , devote a topic perhaps a site to them as mh suggest. Lets make sure if they are googled only this comes up.

Well, you have already "devoted" a topic, or at least a thread, so to that end...mission accomplished. In my own case, I am curious to know why anyone would want to Google an 87yo woman, now deceased (except perhaps her surviving friends) or an 87yo man who suffers from an estranged son, because of Straight Inc. and another son for whatever reason (I don't even know) doesn't have any contact with him.

I have issues with my dad, absolutely. And indeed there are things I would and most likely will discuss once he passes. But I am not sure that I would want his name brought up in a smear campaign. Not that he would ever catch wind of it, yet if he did, what purpose would it serve? I don't know how long he has on this planet....why should he go out knowing he own son publicly betrayed him? Yeah, he is/was a dick, but he is my only father. I have major resentments aimed at him because of Straight Inc. But why would I stoop to such a low level of betrayal and cruelty to settle a score? What would that say about my own character?

Also, most of the parents, if not all the parents I knew, the ones whose homes I stayed in were good people, gracious folks that took me in. Now I know not all parents we good to us as they took us in thier homes and that sucks. Maybe they werent finacially well off, or they were slobs. But what they are guilty of was caring and were doing the best they knew what to do with what was available. Granted, I know there were abuses, harrassments and in some instances gross negligences (sp) and it's an ethical descion one has to make for them selves to mention the names.

I guess what I don't understand is your reason for targeting parents....yours, mine or any others parents. Doubtfully it is with the intent of expressing fond memories, as it seems more malicious in intent. But if you insist, regardless of your intent...Helen Peterman was a parent.

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Re: Straight Parent List
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2008, 09:23:59 AM »
Quote from: "Woof-a-Doof"
Quote from: "Guest1980"
No need I am happy to start the list. I spent the evening speaking to a survivor again over this whole parent issue and I was thrilled that someone finally said enough.

First sentence doesn't make any sense. Second sentence doesn't really make sense either..."this whole parent issue"...damn, I didn't know there was a "parent issue", I suspect we all have parent issues and I can see the need to discuss them as they relate to Straight Inc. but am I to understand I am to out my own parents? Or am I to out your parents? probably most confusing of all is that you were "thrilled that someone finally said enough" Enough about what?


Quote from: "Guest1980"
Ok , chime in and lets get their full names , devote a topic perhaps a site to them as mh suggest. Lets make sure if they are googled only this comes up.

Well, you have already "devoted" a topic, or at least a thread, so to that end...mission accomplished. In my own case, I am curious to know why anyone would want to Google an 87yo woman...

 :roflmao: Ohh...   ...you guys crack me up... :rofl:

Keep up the good work woof.
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Re: Straight Parent List
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2008, 04:21:15 AM »
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That's why we need to get the message out there to the parents who don't have access to computers. We can save a lot of kids today if we focus on informing the parents. Not condemning them. For the most part, these parents LOVE their children. They would not take out second mortgages or a huge loan to help someone they didn't love. They have been lied to, tricked, manipulated into thinking their kid will be dead without their program. I know, it happened to me.

Just FYI, the reason why a lot of ex-program teens are bitter against their parents is because they never really talked to their parents again about the experience.  In program, many of the teens are told that their parents have full knowledge of what is going on.  While this is rarely true (sometimes is it), the belief does often "stick", and the resentment stays as a result.

In any case, I agree with you.  Education with open arms is the solution which is why I started this site on the troubled teen industry:
http://troubled-teen-industry.com/

I'm hoping to eventually get it high up on a google search for the troubled teen keyword so parents can find out about what they're getting into before they make a decision that is in many cases, mostly irreversible.
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